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LOL - I think that I love it.
I don't know what his CD will sound like but changing the set is EPIC. It works so much better flow wise (from the crappy cellcast anyway) and the energy seemed to stay really strong.
I think it's a great move and a great sign of trust from 19 for Kris. AND - Kris has great taste in music.
I don't know what his CD will sound like but changing the set is EPIC. It works so much better flow wise (from the crappy cellcast anyway) and the energy seemed to stay really strong.
I think it's a great move and a great sign of trust from 19 for Kris. AND - Kris has great taste in music.
I don't think we have to worry about Kris becoming Daughtry 2.0, I've sure his folkiness and the soul in his voice will still shine through. Matt Nathanson's CD is pop-rock and I could totally see Kris make the same kind of CD. Anyway, we'll see, but in the context of the tour, I think it's a great replacement and way better than NB!
Definitely a complement!
You got the song title right, missaddicted, unfortunately I can never think of it. I always call it I Got Soul. Tried to look the name up, while listening to him singing it, but gave up.
You know, I can't really get the image out of my head of the CI6 Top 3 singing this outside at night with snow falling, and Theo jumping up and down. Probably just trying to keep warm.
It's a great choice. I just meant it's not really a very "Kris" choice. But this isn't AI, it's a concert. I think it works. So you guys listened? Or you did, SleepinIn?
I just want him to incorporate a little urban vibe in some of his stuff. Heartless is a good example of what I mean. It's an r&b song that he changed, but the rhythm is there. An he obviously had a feel for the rhythm. That version on the radio is so uniquely Kris. No rocker could do what he does with that song. He can't be a white-boy-rocker because he's something more unique.
Yeah, I thought that too about the trust.
SleepinIn, you mean he's playing electric guitar on this song?
missaddicted, the Nathanson comparison is fine, I'll go for that sound. But I want him to try to be "original Kris," not another anybody. So he has to experiment and be a bit different. I have a feeling he's going to be great, anyhow.
So the tweet went. I don't know for sure yet.. but I hope so.. *dies* that part in Bright Lights is all kinds of good. It also give Kris the chance for a lot of interaction with the band. And over 50 or so dates that's going to be so great for him.
Ross did you see the other speculation from today? There was talk on TWOP and IDF about them releasing Heartless to radio as the single which kind of gathered steam as Kris ditched NB for the show today. How do you think Heartless would do radio wise across the country? I'd really like to see it happen I know it isn't his own single but it's way better than NB and people seem to really like it outside of idol land.
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I did not listen, I'll wait for a video. Maybe not tonight though, it's getting kind of late! I just know it's going to be epic!
Oh, of course I want him to be "Original Kris". I'm just trying to keep my expectations pretty low. It might not happen on that first CD. And a "Matt N." sound is infinitely better than a "Jonas bros" sound for that first CD. You know I love David Cook's CD. But I've used that word to describe it before and I'll use it again: it's generic. He's so much better live surrounded with his own band than what the CD sounds, mostly recorded with session musicians: more passion, less generic. The time constraints must be horrible for them. Also, they do have some say on their CD, but they don't have all the freedom that they probably wish they had. I don't see Cook choosing Light On and Come Back to Me as his first two singles, especially not the latter. So, yes, I'm quite expecting Kris' CD to sound a little generic, especially with the songwriters he's apparently worked with until now. And whatever his fans think, I think it's also going to be the case with Adam's CD.
I'll probably be expecting a lot more from Cook's/Adam's/Kris' second CDs.
I think time is really a problem. I think it was great that Sony-BMG gave Theo more time to record his CD. Not that it doesn't sound a bit generic, but it's not too bad I think and really a great improvement over what happened in the past with previous winners' CDs.
Oh, of course I want him to be "Original Kris". I'm just trying to keep my expectations pretty low. It might not happen on that first CD. And a "Matt N." sound is infinitely better than a "Jonas bros" sound for that first CD. You know I love David Cook's CD. But I've used that word to describe it before and I'll use it again: it's generic. He's so much better live surrounded with his own band than what the CD sounds, mostly recorded with session musicians: more passion, less generic. The time constraints must be horrible for them. Also, they do have some say on their CD, but they don't have all the freedom that they probably wish they had. I don't see Cook choosing Light On and Come Back to Me as his first two singles, especially not the latter. So, yes, I'm quite expecting Kris' CD to sound a little generic, especially with the songwriters he's apparently worked with until now. And whatever his fans think, I think it's also going to be the case with Adam's CD.
I'll probably be expecting a lot more from Cook's/Adam's/Kris' second CDs.
I think time is really a problem. I think it was great that Sony-BMG gave Theo more time to record his CD. Not that it doesn't sound a bit generic, but it's not too bad I think and really a great improvement over what happened in the past with previous winners' CDs.
Personally, I would be OK with it only if it was a "summer" single. Not his official first single. That would be all kinds of wrong in my opinion. And selfishly, I want new Kris music come September.
Because bland is what plays on the radio and sells CDs...
... well, most of the time.
Originality rarely tops the charts.
Yes, beats NB by a very long mile! Or a very long kilometer for us Canadians!
What? It's only 2:30 am, where are you going?
Kidding.
I know there are youtubes of AT40 but someone posted this almost complete link here Taste My Mind — Did you miss Kradam on AT 40 this morning? that's all together and in order.
krisadamat40.mp3
krisadamat40.mp3
I listened to the youtubes and even though the order was weird, Kris and Adam were hilarious! I'm thankful that I didn't have to listen to most of these songs though. Yuck.
I saw a couple of videos for ATTTID and I loved it! Way better than NB.
I saw a couple of videos for ATTTID and I loved it! Way better than NB.
Okay, I listened to the show on YouTube (AT40). Yeah, the order was odd! I also think they must have taped this a while ago, since Adam's twitter name is no longer TheRealGlambert. I think he changed it at least a week ago.
It was okay. They're good together. Most of the twitter and phone questions were for Adam. Like, ten to one. Does Adam have ten times more fans? It leaves you with that impression. Seriously, none of Kris's fans called, or tweeted? Come on. He has fans. Doesn't he have five fans who could tweet five questions? What the hell.
Was this something people heard was really going to happen? I like the idea. It's a good cover version, radio friendly, and his vocal is great. It should be popular. I don't think it will take impact from his album, or the first single from the album. .
I don't think it will be judged as a "first single." I know how all-important the sales of that first single are. But it's already on the radio anyway. So why not promote it more, and get it even more play?
Anyhow, isn't NB Kris's first official single?
I brought something up on mj's blog yeaterday about that. Since Kris's and Adam's singles of NB were both released to radio and they both charted, isn't NB Adam's first single, also? Not just Kris's? I was told: No, because Kris's version was promoted and Adam's wasn't. The record/radio business baffles me totally.
Since you were talking previously about how Kris's NB didn't do too well, missaddicted, I wonder how any of the past winner's singles would have done if they had to compete with another verion of the same song released at the same time? I think in the case of NB we'll never know how sales of Adam's affected sales of Kris's. Or radio play. If you want to know how well NB really did, I honestly think you have to combine the numbers for Adam's and Kris's versions, then assume those numbers would be more or less the numbers Kris's version would have had, had there been no Adam version to compete with.
Worldwide, some stations have both versions in their top 10 right now. So you have to figure Adam's version is taking plays and sales away from Kris's. Why AI chose to release both I don't know, but it's unfair and it's never happened before, as far as I know. it was bound to make Kris's version chart lower, if you ask me.
I read the recap of Sacramento on mj's blog by somebody who met Kris, but didn't get his set list totally right, and also gave the impression he didn't play piano on Bright Lights. In the comments, she said she couldn't remember, but thought he didn't, and that he played guitar. I nearly had a coronary. Went rushing to YouTube to make sure he didn't change anything. Phew. He didn't.
Actually falling asleep, here. Must...post...this...now...
It was okay. They're good together. Most of the twitter and phone questions were for Adam. Like, ten to one. Does Adam have ten times more fans? It leaves you with that impression. Seriously, none of Kris's fans called, or tweeted? Come on. He has fans. Doesn't he have five fans who could tweet five questions? What the hell.
Was this something people heard was really going to happen? I like the idea. It's a good cover version, radio friendly, and his vocal is great. It should be popular. I don't think it will take impact from his album, or the first single from the album. .
I don't think it will be judged as a "first single." I know how all-important the sales of that first single are. But it's already on the radio anyway. So why not promote it more, and get it even more play?
Anyhow, isn't NB Kris's first official single?
I brought something up on mj's blog yeaterday about that. Since Kris's and Adam's singles of NB were both released to radio and they both charted, isn't NB Adam's first single, also? Not just Kris's? I was told: No, because Kris's version was promoted and Adam's wasn't. The record/radio business baffles me totally.
Since you were talking previously about how Kris's NB didn't do too well, missaddicted, I wonder how any of the past winner's singles would have done if they had to compete with another verion of the same song released at the same time? I think in the case of NB we'll never know how sales of Adam's affected sales of Kris's. Or radio play. If you want to know how well NB really did, I honestly think you have to combine the numbers for Adam's and Kris's versions, then assume those numbers would be more or less the numbers Kris's version would have had, had there been no Adam version to compete with.
Worldwide, some stations have both versions in their top 10 right now. So you have to figure Adam's version is taking plays and sales away from Kris's. Why AI chose to release both I don't know, but it's unfair and it's never happened before, as far as I know. it was bound to make Kris's version chart lower, if you ask me.
I read the recap of Sacramento on mj's blog by somebody who met Kris, but didn't get his set list totally right, and also gave the impression he didn't play piano on Bright Lights. In the comments, she said she couldn't remember, but thought he didn't, and that he played guitar. I nearly had a coronary. Went rushing to YouTube to make sure he didn't change anything. Phew. He didn't.
Actually falling asleep, here. Must...post...this...now...
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I'm pretty sure it was taped the same day that Kris and Adam were in the studio with Ryan Seacrest for his interview with them. So that I think was prior to the tour start right? Ryan never tweet asked for questions for them after that. There actually were more questions for Kris - Adam asked about Heartless and they played a clip of that - did the youtube have that? It was so jumbled up I just downloaded the other one, then I listened to a bit last night. And yeah they are funny together.
Someone who knows someone who knows someone at Jive kind of thing. So pure rumour but after the ditching of NB.. interesting timing.
That's my thought too.
Me too. lol
and those numbers might be the ultimate reason it was ditched. If neither of them could sell it, then it's not their fault.. it's the songs.
I do agree with this though.
Just listened to Adam's set through the guy that was streaming it from the concert tonight (yes, my mind has been lost - it is very sad, I'll look for it later) and you couldn't see much beyond the lightshow (but the sound was amazing - Adam has a fantastic voice) and Kris following that lightshow on a dark-ish stage with instruments in tow and just singing? It kinda impresses me even more.
It has happened before for Carrie and Bo, or so I read. I agree that it's unfair. But I don't think you can add the numbers from both of their sales though. The song sucks, so I would guess that the people who bought it did so more for the singer than for the song itself. Especially in Adam's case. His fantards as you call them are mostly completists I would guess, they needed to have everythig, including NB. Most of them probably wouldn't have bought Kris' version, if they weren't Kris fans as well. I'm a completist too, so that's why I bought both versions. Not because I really like the song. And that's another argument against putting both numbers together. I can't be the only "crazy" girl who bought both versions of the song.
Anyway, last year, Time of My Life became the song that would never die (played during the Olympics, played on various sporting events, performed on Oprah,all of this definitely helped the song reached platinum status). Would it have sold less had Archie also released the song? Probably a bit, but still, the song itself was doing better, with airplay especially. And it lasted well into the fall. Even after Cook released Light On, a lot of stations were still playing the Magic Rainbow. This year, No Boundaries is pretty much dead already. And I don't blame Kris (or Adam), I totally blame the song(writers).
SleepinIn, your post made me go over to rickey.org. But the show is over. I was meaning to listen tonight. Damn, forgot all about it. So now Rickey is just answering questions from twitter.
Aaargh, he kind of annoys me. His mic needs to be fixed, I think that's part of it. But not all of it. I think his sound is part of what's wrong with the cellcasts. His sound keeps cutting out even when he's just talking.
There were pictures tonight?
Apparently we're going to get a cellcast from the bus, or barricades, now. I'd listen but it's 1:45am now. Not sure I'll make it.
This is kind of cool, though, because a woman is going to hand her phone to the idols to say hi. Supposedly.
They want to get Kris to say "benches." We'll never hear any of this, I guarantee it. I'll stay up half the night for nothing watching Rickey talk into his camera in his apartment.
Just checked my twitter. I have an teenage scene kid following me on twitter who's a Kris fan. He thinks Kris is "yum." HA! Well, yeah, Kris is pretty yum, by all accounts.
Did the concert sound good, SleepinIn? I mean, was the sound good?
YouTube - KRIS ALLEN & MATT GIRAUD AMERICAN IDOL OAKLAND 07.11.09
Hey, I think I was kind of a sourpuss tonight! Don't know why. Sorry.
Kris's new song: someone who was there wrote it was "srsly awesome." Yay.
Aaargh, he kind of annoys me. His mic needs to be fixed, I think that's part of it. But not all of it. I think his sound is part of what's wrong with the cellcasts. His sound keeps cutting out even when he's just talking.
There were pictures tonight?
Apparently we're going to get a cellcast from the bus, or barricades, now. I'd listen but it's 1:45am now. Not sure I'll make it.
This is kind of cool, though, because a woman is going to hand her phone to the idols to say hi. Supposedly.
They want to get Kris to say "benches." We'll never hear any of this, I guarantee it. I'll stay up half the night for nothing watching Rickey talk into his camera in his apartment.
Just checked my twitter. I have an teenage scene kid following me on twitter who's a Kris fan. He thinks Kris is "yum." HA! Well, yeah, Kris is pretty yum, by all accounts.
Did the concert sound good, SleepinIn? I mean, was the sound good?
YouTube - KRIS ALLEN & MATT GIRAUD AMERICAN IDOL OAKLAND 07.11.09
Hey, I think I was kind of a sourpuss tonight! Don't know why. Sorry.
Kris's new song: someone who was there wrote it was "srsly awesome." Yay.
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