I'm pretty sure Sebastian will be back on the fourth (and last) season of Being Erica. That's the series on which he's had his biggest role so far and I believe he's supposed to be back for the last season.
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Lee's tour seems to be going good. It's small venues but he's selling out the venues, or a lot of them. Like the Brighton Music Hall, here in Boston (Allston-Brighton, actually. I think.) - where I think he's playing next week - so I guess his management team picked a good way to go, and the publicity must be at least adequate (since people know where he's going to be playing, anyway). Anyhow it seems like a good strategy for bringing him along.
People on *another Idol related site* are chiming in on the Cook sales predictions. (45- 50k.) Someone being positive, over *there*, asked if this wouldn't give him a Top 10 debut, and (I'm really bad at this - because I'm basically disinterested in sales - but - ) my guess is "yes." Of course, I really don't know.
Someone over *there* happened to diss Lifehouse, which caused me to look up debut figures for Smoke & Mirrors - first week: 54,000. Debuted in the Top 5. Lifehouse may not be the hugest selling band of all time - but what's bad about selling roughly the same as Lifehouse? - a band that's been at this for @ 10 years, now.
People on *another Idol related site* are chiming in on the Cook sales predictions. (45- 50k.) Someone being positive, over *there*, asked if this wouldn't give him a Top 10 debut, and (I'm really bad at this - because I'm basically disinterested in sales - but - ) my guess is "yes." Of course, I really don't know.
Someone over *there* happened to diss Lifehouse, which caused me to look up debut figures for Smoke & Mirrors - first week: 54,000. Debuted in the Top 5. Lifehouse may not be the hugest selling band of all time - but what's bad about selling roughly the same as Lifehouse? - a band that's been at this for @ 10 years, now.
It is not the getting the album to chart high when if first comes out that matters. It is getting it to last on the chart for a long time that counts. And you can't compare David to bands like Lifehouse. David performed on idol twice, had the boot song played every week, and some other high profile media appearances. I think his biggest problems right now are lack of radio play and lack of awareness of who he is outside of idol fandom.
But the topic of discussion was disappointing opening week predictions. My point was that DC's numbers are within the range of normal, for our times. Naturally getting a CD to last on the chart counts, but I don't have a crystal ball. Not sure why you say I can't compare David's opening week #'s to Lifehouse's.
David is an Idol winner and he gets the high profile promotional campaign unlike Lifehouse. Why not compare him to an Idol winner Fantasia who released 3rd album last year and sold 117,000 in its first week.
I guess because Lifehouse does somewhat similar music to David Cook - at least more than Fantasia. "Idol winner" wasn't a genre of music the last time I checked.
I'm not making this about defending why I compared Lifehouse and David Cook, but they have, like, four gold albums and a lot of hit singles, they've been around for about 10 years - I think. I'm not an expert on them. But since this is what their last CD sold in week 1, I was trying to point out this is not an ususual number for popular musicians to sell, these days. If you disagree, well - that's not unusual.
I'm not making this about defending why I compared Lifehouse and David Cook, but they have, like, four gold albums and a lot of hit singles, they've been around for about 10 years - I think. I'm not an expert on them. But since this is what their last CD sold in week 1, I was trying to point out this is not an ususual number for popular musicians to sell, these days. If you disagree, well - that's not unusual.
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I can't really manage to care about the sale numbers. I don't look at the sale numbers for the other artists I like (and most of them probably sell way less than David), so I don't see why I would care for them this time. It is what it is.
On the other hand, I do care about whether I love the music or not. I've spent a little more time with the album and some songs have grown on me a little, I must say, like Fade Into Me and the bonus track Let Me Fall For You. So, yeah, it's far from the best album ever but I can listen to most of the songs withouth cringing, and I can actually enjoy most of them, even though I can't help but find them super generic.
On the other hand, I do care about whether I love the music or not. I've spent a little more time with the album and some songs have grown on me a little, I must say, like Fade Into Me and the bonus track Let Me Fall For You. So, yeah, it's far from the best album ever but I can listen to most of the songs withouth cringing, and I can actually enjoy most of them, even though I can't help but find them super generic.
I'm with you. Ultimately the success of an artist is mainly of concern to the artist. It's interesting, to us, but has nothing to do with us. Their music is what I'm interested in because that touches me personally. The rest is just - a lot of talk.
After the TV show is over, the contestants understand they're not in competition any longer. But the fans don't always seem to. And the former contestants certainly aren't in competition with people from seasons of the show that they weren't even on. Sometimes from as much as a decade earlier.
Anyhow, I mainly brough this stuff up because I thought the angsting over numbers was silly. Oh, it's great to hear your fave had big sales. But that's not why they're your fave. Fantasia was brought up. I know nothing about her, probably never will - all I know is she attempted suicide, and she had a reality TV show and a crazy family. I'm glad she has big sales because the poor girl sounds like she needed to have something good happen to her. But who would exchange places with her?
Seems like David is disappointed with latest album sales. He tweeted this.
RT @JulesSC "Wouldn't it be great if all 223,000 of @thedavidcook Twitter followers actually bought his new album?" 4.4843 times each.
Trailer for a new movie Sebastian is in 'High Chicago'
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Stefano annoys the ever loving crap outta me. Never fails, he opens his mouth and I'm done.
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Stefano annoys the ever loving crap outta me. Never fails, he opens his mouth and I'm done.
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I'm happy Sebastian is in the movie. He's a good movie actor and after all, he's not getting any younger, he needs some breaks. Hope he gets more. And of course there the TV show. Glad he's keeping his hand in music, as well. Very creative guy. He seems like a cool guy, too, very nice, great sense of humor - and nice to his fans. I'm remembering how I thought the Pigott Bros. were both wierd back on Idol, due to their kind of unusual body language, at times, and their sometimes crazy MySpace posts, etc. But even if maybe they're a little different, they're both super guys and really nice. So, yeah.
Without CI to remind me, my interest in the Canadian Idols and even sometimes other Canadian musicians tends to become less and less. That's really too bad. I suppose some people think Canadian and American musicians are interchangable but of course they have different cultural experiences, and musical influences, informing their styles of performing and writing. Myself I have tended to find Canadian pop and other popular types of music in Canada different from American - not hugely, but different. I always say I think there's more melodiousness to Canadian music but I'm not really sure what I mean. lol
Without CI to remind me, my interest in the Canadian Idols and even sometimes other Canadian musicians tends to become less and less. That's really too bad. I suppose some people think Canadian and American musicians are interchangable but of course they have different cultural experiences, and musical influences, informing their styles of performing and writing. Myself I have tended to find Canadian pop and other popular types of music in Canada different from American - not hugely, but different. I always say I think there's more melodiousness to Canadian music but I'm not really sure what I mean. lol
That is too bad Ross, of course it's been years since CI so it's pretty natural that the interest wanes, and I don't think you get a lot of our artists on the radio, or in the media - aside from the ones you can't escape. Lol. it's just hard for Canadian artist's to get traction in the US, and without media or label backing it's next to impossible. I tend to think that there's a difference too, but I can't say what it is exactly either.
the other CI news you may not care about - lol - Chad Doucette released an album. I download two songs, which I really liked. He also seems to be working a lot with Steffi D and. they formed a band called Good Together. Quirky folk music. not really a fave of mine on the show, but his YouTube bedroom clips were great.
Yeah they were on the same season (I had to look that up BTW, lol) Chad was 4th and Steffi was 5th. From the youtube videos I kind of get the vibe that Chad and Steffi are dating...?? but that could be completely false and they might just be really good friends.
They're really fun to watch together, I'm kinda loving it to be honest. They call themselves Good Together and they are actually. They do a lot of nice harmonizing.
Good Together: "I Wanna Get You Drunk" - YouTube
Good Together: Love Me - YouTube
The other song I downloaded off Chad's Cd was You'll Come Around it's really good. And I think I heard about it from Twitter
They're really fun to watch together, I'm kinda loving it to be honest. They call themselves Good Together and they are actually. They do a lot of nice harmonizing.
Good Together: "I Wanna Get You Drunk" - YouTube
Good Together: Love Me - YouTube
The other song I downloaded off Chad's Cd was You'll Come Around it's really good. And I think I heard about it from Twitter
Okay, I think this was a really shallow season of Idol, and the proof to me is that, now it's over, I don't care about the tour, or anything. Did I care about last year's tour? Not really, but I cared a bit about it. I watched the sandwich videos, a bit (remember those?)...whatever. I just didn't have any particular favorites whose singing on tour I was dying to hear. But I think I cared what was going on with a few of them - Lee, Crystal, and Casey, even Andrew and one or two others - and I still am interested.
This year it was more like a TV show, to me, that was slickly produced, etc., but when it was over, it was over, and I hardly think about any of the people. If I didn't go to the Idol sites once in a while, I bet my thoughts about these people would be nonexistent.
Some of it has to do with the styles of music. Maybe a lot. But also the performers. This was my feeling during the season and it still is: a lot of them were the kind that, when you hear them once, they seem great. But as time goes on and you hear more of what they're like, they don't get better and better, they actually get boring. I know some of you liked one in particular, so we'll leave her out of this - but other than her, would you agree with me? To me, the Stefano, Pia, Jacob, Casey, James, Scotty sort of singer is the kind who sounds really good at first. Say you went to a local club, and heard this person sing one or two numbers. You'd think: wow, great. But over time, they don't reveal more layers of talent, creativity, or anything. They surprise you maybe once - at the start - and that's it. Sometimes they actually just seem to get worse over time because you're seeing more of of them and they really aren't as good as they seemed.
This is probably because of Nigel being there? or Jimmy Iovine? Or Simon not being there? I don't know. Not sure what made them choose so many of these types this year. But they seem to be bad at choosing people who have the more solid kind of talent, whose voices will be pleasing over the long run.
This year it was more like a TV show, to me, that was slickly produced, etc., but when it was over, it was over, and I hardly think about any of the people. If I didn't go to the Idol sites once in a while, I bet my thoughts about these people would be nonexistent.
Some of it has to do with the styles of music. Maybe a lot. But also the performers. This was my feeling during the season and it still is: a lot of them were the kind that, when you hear them once, they seem great. But as time goes on and you hear more of what they're like, they don't get better and better, they actually get boring. I know some of you liked one in particular, so we'll leave her out of this - but other than her, would you agree with me? To me, the Stefano, Pia, Jacob, Casey, James, Scotty sort of singer is the kind who sounds really good at first. Say you went to a local club, and heard this person sing one or two numbers. You'd think: wow, great. But over time, they don't reveal more layers of talent, creativity, or anything. They surprise you maybe once - at the start - and that's it. Sometimes they actually just seem to get worse over time because you're seeing more of of them and they really aren't as good as they seemed.
This is probably because of Nigel being there? or Jimmy Iovine? Or Simon not being there? I don't know. Not sure what made them choose so many of these types this year. But they seem to be bad at choosing people who have the more solid kind of talent, whose voices will be pleasing over the long run.
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Yeah, I'm not following what's happening with this year's crew either. I mean, I was super happy when it was announced that Haley had been signed to Interscope and that she would fight to make an album that really represents who she is, but other than that, I don't really care. I didn't even listen to Pia's single, which is apparently very bad. I LOVED Haley and Casey's duet they did on a result show during the season and they've been doing it on tour, but I haven't even watched a video of it or anything. Maybe SleepinIn has?
My problem is I missed the Haley-Casey duet - and I never bothered to look it up and listen to it! But I'm sure it was great. Anyhow I was kind of surprised how I'd get excited to see somebody again - like James - and it would be a case of...maybe I got excited a bit too soon. And Pia - first time? Hey, great voice. Second, third, etc.? The frozen statue sings another ballad. Plus I think Casey seemed to get worse when he started out strong. Also, Paul turned out to be no great shakes, when it seemed like he might have been the type to build over time. (But his voice was shot, also.)
I also have not heard the Pia single. Wonder if I will. Is it on the radio?
I also have not heard the Pia single. Wonder if I will. Is it on the radio?