Canadian Idol Fans Watching American Idol

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I haven't seen a lot of Casey, so just coming at him from that performance. Which I didn't get. I don't know them this year. I've seen video where he was fun, but maybe judging cold on that performance I didn't see it and I'm not sure why he was in the pimp spot. I maybe think he's trying too hard. Maybe I'm projecting but I think I won't be able to stand a lot of that. I don't know. Bear with me.

Yes, he's a piano player, from what we've seen so far. I do also believe he can be way WAY better than what he showed last night, but he blew it and I don't think he'll make it through.

The question is if he was allowed to play the piano, would he have done better and made it through? I just think at this stage it's really unfair to take away part of what the artist who he is. I just don't get it, except as a means to make sure Idol gets more pageant singers.
I don't suppose Theo would have made sense originally without piano.

 

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The question is if he was allowed to play the piano, would he have done better and made it through? I just think at this stage it's really unfair to take away part of what the artist who he is. I just don't get it, except as a means to make sure Idol gets more pageant singers.

Yeah, I know, I agree with you that it's completely ridiculous. But instead of blaming last year's sucky season on their casting of some so-so talent, the producers (Uncle Nigel, first in line) are blaming the instruments, or rather, people "hiding" behind their instruments. Well, I'll continue to maintain that if they had that problem it's not because of the instruments per se, but because they actually cast people who used their instruments as crutches. Most musicians don't do that. And most of them have great stage presence even if they're behind a guitar or whatever. So yeah, it doesn't make sense what they're doing.

Oh, and apparently, they're tired of boys with guitars winning.

 

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Oh, and apparently, they're tired of boys with guitars winning.

Yes, I seem to have heard that. They pushed for Lee to win, last year, then they're tired of guitar guys. Idol, I will never figure you out. I doubt Idol figures itself out, usually. Today I saw an article calling Cook, Kris, and Lee one hit wonders. When did Lee have a hit? I must have missed that. Why is it Dave's fault or Kris's that Lee won? Did they vote for him? I'm tired of this winner-trashing. Are they saying the runner ups should have won? Okay, so, if Archie had won? Would there be strings of hit songs instead of the one? Or Adam - had he been the winner, are his numbers impressive for an Idol winner? Nobody ever questions that. All they care is he's sold more than Kris. And Crystal is not setting the world on fire. I'm not sure I'd wish winning this thing on my worst enemy. All you end up with is media hate. Come in second and you don't have to answer for any of your shortcomings.

But this too shall pass, I guess.

Yeah, I know, I agree with you that it's completely ridiculous. But instead of blaming last year's sucky season on their casting of some so-so talent, the producers (Uncle Nigel, first in line) are blaming the instruments, or rather, people "hiding" behind their instruments. Well, I'll continue to maintain that if they had that problem it's not because of the instruments per se, but because they actually cast people who used their instruments as crutches. Most musicians don't do that. And most of them have great stage presence even if they're behind a guitar or whatever. So yeah, it doesn't make sense what they're doing.

Because they cannot be wrong! I don't even know if I agree that people they cast used instruments as crutches. I think they were not the Idol type, some of them. I don't know. Idol let some of those people down, in my opinion. They were presented badly, unimaginatively. Canadian Idol presented the same types of people very well. I'm not sure American Idol knows how to present that kind of artist. But Idol also let a lot of us down by not casting some of the great people we saw originally in Season 9 - who never made it out of Hollywood week. But anyway...

Good post at MJ's, near the end of the 500+ post about the show last night, by "sunchick" said it best, if you want to read it.

 

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To be fair Adam sang it really well

How can you tell? I mean, I don't think I'm being unfair. To me, every performance is basically the same. Even when it's different, it's not different. And he has his one trick, the wail.

.. and there were lasers.. on Idol. Who gets Lasers?.. pretty much only Adam. :icon_smile:

He's the only one who needs them.

Okay, I'm watching tonight, and I'm writing, and I won't be here long. Here I go.

Welcome to American Idol...2004!!!

Honestly, I can't stand it. This is the way they've improved and changed Idol. By going back to the mid-century. JLo, particularly. She's still Jennie from the block. Are you a diva? AWESOME. This kind of thing was getting old in 2004 - ten years old, actually.

What approach would Crystal have taken in this setting? I know I shouldn't rail against What Is. No instruments. There's nothing I can do about it. But you know this is why I never watched this show in the first place.

The judges are kind of annoying me. The old judges annoyed me but in a totally different way. I wouldn't mind a fourth judge. I wouldn't mind Kara. A non-performer, who doesn't care about being nice and losing fans. I'm not getting much entertainment from the judges. I don't exactly miss Simon, but making my blood boil with rage was at least getting a reaction from me.

Tonight I'm not going to write a book like I did last night.

JLo is way more critical and giving more advice with the girls than she was with the guys.

So far I don't like any of these girls. I mean I don't like this type of singing, don't hate it, but don't love it.

Thea was NOT pitch perfect, Steven Tyler. NOT. BUT...She's...wait for it...ONLYFIFTEEN. SHESONLYFIFTEEN!!!!

Wow, what a negative post.

Randy name checked Kelly - name checked Carrie. Earned his 750,000 dollars for the night.

Pia in the pimp spot.

The thing for me is that I've heard a lot of singers like this in my life and while you can't deny they have lung power and they can hit the notes, and all, there's nothing creative or original about it. There's no original style, it's just a copy of many other singers. Not that everybody has to be unique, but it would be nice if some were. If I want someone to sing the National Anthem or star on Broadway, I'll call Pia.

 

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How can you tell? I mean, I don't think I'm being unfair. To me, every performance is basically the same. Even when it's different, it's not different. And he has his one trick, the wail.

How can I tell? LOL. I liked it.

(I'm going to mangle names.. pretty sure I am)

Ta-Tunisia only girl in the world..stage presence ..okay..check.... Vocal..unchecked. Crowd goes crazy ... What are they hearing exactly? JLo - It's good it's over with. Completely agree Jen. It's good when the bad noise stops. Randy you are my DAWG. JLo and Steven need to hear it back on tv. I'm with you Randy cause that was not good.

Naimia - Summertime, this is the only song Fantasia sung that I ever liked. And it was more like LOVED. She 's got good command on stage but it was loungy. Okay job. Bad idea to compare yourself to other idols.

Kendra - excited to hear her...let's see... don't know the song, but I liked it.wouldn't buy it but a good job. Kinda forgettable.

Rachel- showy but pitchy dawg. Getting drowned out by the band. Love Steven's silent moment of utter disbelief. Kinda meh.

Karen. I don't know you Karen. Idol season 1 I'd fastforward if I could pretty sure the judges are crazy at this point. Don't know what they're smoking. Did not like.

Lauren T. - don't remember her either. Jully Black sang the hell out of this song, and it seems like a similar arrangement Lauren you're no Jully. Or Etta for that matter. But so far the best of the night.

Ashton - Really good presence. Don't know the song - it occurs to me I must not listen to girl singers - lol I can' t tell if she nailing the song or not but it seemed like she was a bit shaky. She is confident. Liked her. Funny. Randy you my dawg. Super cute.

Julie zzzzzz mistake. Like really awful. I don't know about Julie but I want to breakaway. Exactly Randy. WRONG WRONG WRONG song. Don't compare yourself to other Idols, especially Kelly.. EVERYONE knows Kelly.

Haley - hi haley welcome to the show. Good job first disagreement with Randy. "If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong" Not crazy for the vocal runs but good job.

Thia. Spotlight acapella start. Awesome. She's gonna sell records. (not to me.. but to a LOT of people)

Lauren was really good too. 15! (16!) stage presence up the whazoo. But She annoys lol

Peaches lol She's funny, but she annoys.

Pia - Okay bumping Haley from my 5 for you, pretty and good ESP. Following the 2 younguns really good job Pia

So my 5 for the girls Pia, Thia, Lauren, Lauren, and Ashton. (probably wouldn't buy a cd from any of them)

What approach would Crystal have taken in this setting? I know I shouldn't rail against What Is. No instruments. There's nothing I can do about it. But you know this is why I never watched this show in the first place.

Shake her groove thang?

JLo is way more critical and giving more advice with the girls than she was with the guys.

Hmm good point.

The thing for me is that I've heard a lot of singers like this in my life and while you can't deny they have lung power and they can hit the notes, and all, there's nothing creative or original about it. There's no original style, it's just a copy of many other singers. Not that everybody has to be unique, but it would be nice if some were. If I want someone to sing the National Anthem or star on Broadway, I'll call Pia.

I'm just not a fan of this type of singing, so it's kinda hard for me to judge. I know the 5 I liked did well in my opinion but it is a bit like watching early days Idol when I don't really have a horse in the race. I like them, can appreciate them and enjoy them on the show but I wouldn't put their songs on my Ipod.

 

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Sorry if I needled you about Adam. I have these strong opinions, ya see.

Not only am I not a fan of this type of singing (tonight), but I'm not a fan of the show going backward, encouraging divas, eliminating instruments. I think there's room for one diva, or possibly two, per season. There was room for one, last season, in fact. I might have welcomed one last season.

And then...I don't like going from 24 to 12 in one night, either. I mean, I don't blame the show for trying to shake things up after the horror of last season. But less voting and more oversinging...no. lol

Also, I kind of liked the non-glamor of the (previous season's) early rounds. The simple set and lighting. Now it seems like we're already in the finals. I don't think it needs to be glitzy at this point. It's better when it happens later. I liked the almost clinical early rounds - like, this is the lab, where the experiments happen - later, they go out into the theatre. I need to meet and get to know these people. Oh, well.

 

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Sorry if I needled you about Adam. I have these strong opinions, ya see.

LOL - yeah, you know me I don't really care. We can like different things. It's okay. I agree I don't want all diva's and I don't want all singer-songwriters. Variety on this show is the way to go.

It's weird isn't it to be on the "big" stage this early. Who are these people even? (and I mean that musically not tales of woe)

Maybe they're trying to hurry them towards being better onstage? We'll have to see how it goes. It might help sell the Idol tour tho.

 

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ross, thanks for your negative post because now, I don't have to write it.

Tonight's diva-fest was painful. All the finger pointing and hand gestures gave me a headache. The judges are nuts.

Ta-tynisa, I applaud you for the non-diva song choice, but you sounded awful. Bye.

Naima, it was okay I guess, but it's not something I would remotely be interested in if I didn't have to watch you on Idol.

Kendra, only one out of two I liked tonight, because at least, she has a distinctive tone of voice. Please don't sing anymore Christina songs though.

Rachel, no. No. Go back to Broadway please. When I started concentrating more on your eyebrows than your performance, you were doomed.

Karen, NO. It was competent singing, but seriously Mariah? With all the typical diva moves and all? NO.

Lauren T., you were okay. I guess.

Ashton, I couldn't wait until it was over. You sounded way shrieky. I don't want to hear from you again, sorry.

Julie, you are so very pretty (though you oddly looked like a bridesmaid tonight, wth?), but that song ate you alive. Ouch.

Haley, I love your curly hair, your voice? Oh, well...

Thia, you sang better than usual, but you lack any kind of depth that would make you a good performer.

Lauren A., I'll agree with SleepinIn up there, you annoy. And your mom looks younger than you, it's disturbing. I don't see anything special in your singing.

Pia, okay, you're the other one I liked tonight, but seriously, what kind of music would you put out? What kind of artist are you? Do you even know?

I can't even name a top 5. I do listen to several female singers. None of them divas. The top 12 girls all come pretty much from the same mold. Not a mold that I like. At all.

 

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ross, thanks for your negative post because now, I don't have to write it.

Thanks for the laugh!

Yes, it was mighty painful to me.

I basically agree with your assessments of everyone.

SleepinIn - they have nowhere to go but bigger, and glitzier. Which scares me. Do you think it's a good idea to get rid of the intimacy and simplicity - and getting to know the performers? This is probably what makes people invested in the early rounds. Then it's always a thrill when they get to the big stage.

I admit I have missed a few shows this year, but didn't Season 8 seem very linear and clear, to you guys? Like it followed a sort of logic. S9, less so - but it seemed to build slowly based on the personalities of the contestants. This season it seems like a blur, almost. But I did miss some crucial episodes. Still I feel it's all about excitement, and you know, all excitement all the time is...boring in the end.

 

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I don't see any comparison at all between James Durbin and Adam :-?. Their styles are waaaay different. James is a generic metal rock singer. Adam is not defined by one single genre. His performances, like "Mad World" and "Tracks Of My Tears" showed his versatility as a singer/performer on Idol. And his versatility is what made him marketable. James is not marketable at all. Metal rock music isn't mainstream anymore and only established metal bands can sell CDs decently. Idol is looking for a mainstream recording artist and I don't think he is it. Of the front-runner guys(Jacob Lusk, Casey Abrams, James Durbin, Scotty McCreery), I could only see Scotty McCreery making it on a commercial level.

 

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I agree the styles of Adam and James are different. Maybe not 180 degrees different, but different enough. But don't you think it's unfair to compare what Adam did for a whole season to what James has done up to now? Let's wait and see what everyone is capable of.

I'm not sure James is generic, that remains to be seen, in my opinion.

Yes, Idol is looking for a mainstream recording artist. But that's not our problem. They gave us these people to vote for; we're free to like any of them. If they wanted to give us 24 mainstream recording artist types, they could do that.

Anyhow, I don't think it's easy to predict who'll make it. Jacob Hoggard is a perfect example. I don't think he ever seemed like the ideal mainstream recording artist when he was on Idol, yet he ended up as a successful mainstream recording artist.

And on another note: I need to see Crystal shakin' her groove thang. Her bootylicious groove thang.

 

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But don't you think it's unfair to compare what Adam did for a whole season to what James has done up to now? Let's wait and see what everyone is capable of.

I agree, let's wait and see.

Also, SQUEE!

'American Idol' Exit Song Revealed: 'Don't You (Forget About Me)' Covered by David Cook - The Hollywood Reporter

Unfortunately, DCO doesn't seem to want me to pre-order David's album, I always get an error. Obviously, the song is a cover and not the Ryan Tedder song we thought it would be (thankfully), but Shirley still lists Tedder in David's collaborators for the album (bleh). But, Neal and Andy are also mentionned so yay for that! And David has a written or co-written all the songs on the album so double-yay for that!! Of course, he wrote like 50 songs, so if that hadn't been the case, I would've been pissed, LOL.

 

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That's great for David. If it was going to be a cover, though, I'm not sure why they gave him the boot song over everyone else (*is a jealous Kris fan!!*), but good for him.

Did you guys even realize this performance was sexy? I didn't. Thanks, EW, for letting me know.

'American Idol': Casey Abrams' 'I Put a Spell On You' sexiest performance ever? | PopWatch | EW.com

ETA: Didn't mean to sound petty. Sorry! Silly of me. Of course, he has a CD coming out and it's very cool publicity for him, and of course the title, Don't You Forget About Me is very apropos as well. Simon Fuller chose him which is very cool as well.

 

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That's great for David. If it was going to be a cover, though, I'm not sure why they gave him the boot song over everyone else (*is a jealous Kris fan*), but good for him.

Well, when Carrie and Ruben did the boot song, they were also covering other songs. And David won before Kris, so maybe he'll get it one day (I thought you didn't care about the boot song, haha!). According to Shirley in the article I linked, Simon Fuller chose the boot song and David to do it and Fuller seems to have a weak spot for David, so maybe that's why he asked him. And it's good for David too, since now lots of people are pre-ordering his album (which won't come out for another 2-3 months!) to get the free cover.

If only DCO let me pre-order it, grrrrr!

Did you guys even realize this performance was sexy? I didn't. Thanks, EW, for letting me know.

Well, sexiest ever? No. Conventionally sexy? No. But, yeah, confidence and a sense of humor are definitely the first steps towards sexiness (IMO), so I get where she's coming from.

 

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I agree the styles of Adam and James are different. Maybe not 180 degrees different, but different enough. But don't you think it's unfair to compare what Adam did for a whole season to what James has done up to now? Let's wait and see what everyone is capable of.

I'm sorry but you are the one who started making a comparison between Adam and James based on what James has done up to now.
The only similarity is that they can both hit high notes. James wants to be a metal rock singer and Adam does not.

Yes, Idol is looking for a mainstream recording artist. But that's not our problem. They gave us these people to vote for; we're free to like any of them. If they wanted to give us 24 mainstream recording artist types, they could do that.

What's the point of haveing an American Idol if they fall of the face of the earth quickly?

Anyhow, I don't think it's easy to predict who'll make it. Jacob Hoggard is a perfect example. I don't think he ever seemed like the ideal mainstream recording artist when he was on Idol, yet he ended up as a successful mainstream recording artist.

Hedley is a pop/rock band that makes radio friendly songs. I just can't see Jacob, James, Casey releasing radio friendly pop/rock songs.

 

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Hedley is a pop/rock band that makes radio friendly songs. I just can't see Jacob, James, Casey releasing radio friendly pop/rock songs.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your point, but did you see Jacob's season? He displayed a lot of talent, but radio friendly pop rock wasn't the first thing that comes to mind. The current Hedley wasn't formed until a year later and only then did Jacob have any success as a performer or recording artist. His original songs were not radio friendly, and his voice and personality were not anything like, say, Chris Daughtry. So my point was that it was hard to predict that he'd be a mainstream pop-rock star, based on CI. He was a fluke. Flukes happen. In other words, never say never. I seem to recall a lot of people back during Season 8 saying Adam would not make it on radio, either, but so far he has. And didn't a lot of people say Kris could never be pop? Yet he became the only male idol winner in history to have a Top 10 pop hit.

What's the point of haveing an American Idol if they fall of the face of the earth quickly?

I don't know many that fall off the face of the earth quickly, but anyway, as I say that's not my problem, right? They give me people to vote for, and then I vote based on what I like. Isn't that what I'm supposed to do? I don't vote for who will sell the most records because I don't know who will do that, and why would anyone vote that way, anyway?

(I thought you didn't care about the boot song, haha!)

It suddenly became relevant!! lol

 

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It suddenly became relevant!! lol

Hee! You make me laugh!

I was finally able to pre-order the album and I listened to the song a few times, and while it's a very good cover, it's not something I envision myself listening to for a long time.

Woot! Album out in May supposedly!

And also this:

And another reason to rejoice: Cook’s rep confirmed to EW that the singer will perform not once, but twice on the Idol stage this season!

From EW: 'American Idol': David Cook's 'Don't You (Forget About Me)' cover named cast-off song | PopWatch | EW.com

Of course, one of those times will be when he'll sing the boot song at the end of the final 2 performance show (it's the tradition, so it'll probably happen again). And the other time will probably be when he sings his new single, in April or May probably.

Okay, forgive me, it's been a while since David has been in the press like this, LOL, but this is very interesting too!

In the Studio With 'American Idol' Alum David Cook!

This is pretty:

YouTube - Paul McDonald - Kendra Chantelle - American Idol - Like You Loved Me Then

 

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And another reason to rejoice: Cook’s rep confirmed to EW that the singer will perform not once, but twice on the Idol stage this season!

Okay, now you're just screwing with my head.

So he's going to be heard on Idol every week, singing the boot song, he's going to appear onstage to actually sing the boot song, and, on yet another night, he's going to perform his new single, as well? When does he mentor?

David Cook lives!!!

As for Casey's song being sexy: I guess it never crossed my mind, as I watched it. I've read comparisons to Taylor Hicks - but I know very little about T. Hicks. Usually I notice when something is sexy, though, that's all I'm saying.

Pia is like the new Kris...
'American Idol': Top 12 Ladies Perform While Pia, Thia, Karen and Lauren Wowed the Crowd - Associated Content from Yahoo! - associatedcontent.com

A little love for my man, James Durbin. lol. This weird mancrush of mine for James may not last long, so, enjoy. (Beware: He is compared to Adam. Don't read it if that bugs ya. Is all I can say.) "'American Idol' May Have a New Adam Lambert - If Not Better." ~ Zoiks! Online - Music. Stand-up. TV. Film. "Funny Name. Seriously Entertaining."

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I'm baaaack.

The comments on that James Durbin article are scary, don't you agree? ("DO NOT VOTE FOR JAMES DURBIN!")

It's 9:38; I just came in in the middle of whatever the hell is now going on, on Idol. I just got in from work. I recorded it all, but right now I'm sort of confused. I'm frankly still amazed at the way the singing reminds me of Idol from years ago. I haven't really gotten over that.

A few minutes ago I watched Stefano. He was pretty good - good, actually - but there is some weird quality in his voice I don't really cotton to. I don't know what it is, maybe somebody can give me a clue. It's not totally pleasant. He was a lot better than Jovany, anyhow. But all the RUNS on this episode. More runs than an old pair of nylons.

Here comes Robbie again. I would be happy to see Robbie go, but I don't think he's going. He's ONLY SEVENTEEN, I think. So, you know how that is.

Do they all sound like urban and r&b singers? Now I'm beginning to understand why Paul MacDonald is appealing to you guys, I guess. (Those teeth are BLINDING, though. See pic below.)

What is REALLY NOT FAIR to me is that I had just about gotten the sound of Jennifer Lopez's vocals out of my head, after enduring her songs back in the day (Kiss108 still plays her duet with Ja Rule all the time - I don't get why) - and now they're showing this video and there is it is again!!! She's back! Oh, nooooo.

 

[SleepinIn]

What's the point of haveing an American Idol if they fall of the face of the earth quickly?

Music? (and for Fox.. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ x10000000)

Yay David for the boot song! I've loved that song for a long time, I haven't heard David's version yet but I'm excited for him. I think it's gonna be a big thing for him and will be really good for promoting his new album. Go Breakfast Club!

That is pretty

Yes it is!!

I'm pretty happy about the top 13, I would have kept Lauren T and maybe Robbie, but otherwise it's pretty solid with the way they performed.

Stefano surprised me, I wasn't expecting much from him and he was pretty good.

Listening to Jim's Idol party, and gonna go read the articles you posted Ross.

LMAO off Jim's talking about who would sing Arcade Fire - their answer was .. the whole cast.

ETA: Thank god that look-a-like thing with Kris used a good hair picture. I'm gonna worry forever about that.. LOL #shallow

ETA2: Weighing in a bit on James. Just because James likes metal and sang metal doesn't mean that he would release a metal album. (Though how great would that be? 8O ) He's definitely rock, but who knows what he has tucked away in his bag of tricks. That's the fun of the show. #Layersarefun