Canadian Homeless vs Syrian Refugees

[B00Mer]

Now imagine how many of these for the homeless in Canada could have been built with the money Trudeau is blowing on MISSING his arbitrary and impossible to meet targets for Syrian refugees.

Once you give them a home, it is start for them to change there lives for the better, most will. But Justin wants to be the big hero to world bringing them in. Just look at other countries that took them in see what is happening. Canadians should be first not last.

Tiny Homes Provide Shelter for Nashville Homeless | Al Jazeera America

 

[Curious Cdn]

It seems that helping our our own refugees isn't as sexy and telegenic as helping out Syrian refugees.

Shame on us for buying into propaganda like that.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Yes, but homeless people deserve to be homeless.

 

[CDNBear]

If no one minds sidetracking away from the anti Liberal message for a moment. Is anybody else familiar with Sam Tsemberis and how Utah has dealt with chronic homelessness?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

If no one minds sidetracking away from the anti Liberal message for a moment. Is anybody else familiar with Sam Tsemberis and how Utah has dealt with chronic homelessness?

Talking about the "Housing First" movement? That one's starting to catch on.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Yes, but homeless people deserve to be homeless.

I'm 90% Calvanist under my veneer and even I don't buy that. Any one of us could end up homeless given the perfect storm of personal disasters and it does happen.

Shutting down the psychiatric hospitals in Ontario was a really bad idea. The bleeding hearts that thought they were doing it for humanitarian reasons were looking at their shoes, not at the horizon.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Yes, but homeless people deserve to be homeless.I'm 90% Calvanist under my veneer and even I don't buy that. Any one of us could end up homeless given the perfect storm of personal disasters and it does happen.

Shutting down the psychiatric hospitals in Ontario was a really bad idea. The bleeding hearts that thought they were doing it for humanitarian reasons were looking at their shoes, not at the horizon.

Yeah? I'm Calvinist too!

 

[CDNBear]

Talking about the "Housing First" movement? That one's starting to catch on.

Yes. Seems to be quite the idea, with very positive results.

Id like to see it catch on faster and in more cities.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Yeah? I'm Calvinist too!

Careful. Who knows when the tiger 'll pounce.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Yes. Seems to be quite the idea, with very positive results.

Id like to see it catch on faster and in more cities.

You'd think that a program that's:

1. Compassionate.

2. Demonstrably reduces crime and social problems.

3. Reduces social welfare costs by about 75%.

would be real popular.

Sadly, there's a fair number'd rather spend billions to guarantee the continuation of poverty and misery. Go figure.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Not telegenic enough ... old news ... faux Christianity ... basic human greed ... lots of reasons.

 

[CDNBear]

You'd think that a program that's:

1. Compassionate.

2. Demonstrably reduces crime and social problems.

3. Reduces social welfare costs by about 75%.

would be real popular.

Sadly, there's a fair number'd rather spend billions to guarantee the continuation of poverty and misery. Go figure.

Many of the people you are alluding to are being funded by the homeless industry and really just want to keep their pay cheques flush.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Many of the people you are alluding to are being funded by the homeless industry and really just want to keep their pay cheques flush.

And the rest are the kind who would rather see the cost and misery continue rather than risk the alleged moral hazard.

The two sorts deserve each other. It's just a shame the rest of us get roped in.

 

[DaSleeper]

I wasn't aware of that project until now..

There seems to be a similar one in Canada

housing first – principles into practice - RainCity Housing

 

[B00Mer]

Some 2300 homeless in Edmonton, Alberta and growing with the downturn in the economy, but I just heard some diner raise $20,000 for a Syrian Refugee to live in Canada... to bad they could sponsor a Canadian Family First.

Fundraiser at local diner collects $20K for Syrian refugees - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca

Syrian refugees shouldn't take priority over homeless, group says - New Brunswick - CBC News

Canadians are getting it, why doesn't the Trudeau Gov't get it..

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It's funny how the people screaming "Take care of homeless Canadians first!" are the same ones who, absent the refugees, would be screaming "Not a penny of tax money for those lazy bastards! They want homes? Let 'em work!"

 

[B00Mer]

It's funny how the people screaming "Take care of homeless Canadians first!" are the same ones who, absent the refugees, would be screaming "Not a penny of tax money for those lazy bastards! They want homes? Let 'em work!"

I don't think that is fair..

Homeless and Habitual Welfare abusers are different.

I think every "Canadian" is entitle to a roof over their head and food in their stomach, be it a shelter from the province, church or community group (YWCA).

However, it's when you get people who live off the system, Habitual Welfare abusers, that are not homeless.. that is what I bitch about. Drug test, re-train, because welfare is suppose to be a stop gap not a career choice.

 

[petros]

It's funny how the people screaming "Take care of homeless Canadians first!" are the same ones who, absent the refugees, would be screaming "Not a penny of tax money for those lazy bastards! They want homes? Let 'em work!"

Nope. Giving someone shack to do drugs in does what for the reason why they are doing drugs in a shack? Housing someone and providing a home are two different things.

 

[taxslave]

Yes, but homeless people deserve to be homeless.

I'm 90% Calvanist under my veneer and even I don't buy that. Any one of us could end up homeless given the perfect storm of personal disasters and it does happen.

Shutting down the psychiatric hospitals in Ontario was a really bad idea. The bleeding hearts that thought they were doing it for humanitarian reasons were looking at their shoes, not at the horizon.

That happened in BC as well in the 90s when the dippers were busy imposing their agenda on us. What they neglected when they kicked most everyone that could walk out of the psychiatric hospitals was that someone still had to make sure they both took their meds and looked after themselves. Needless to say it didn't happen because that would impose on their rights.

 

[petros]

That happened in BC as well in the 90s when the dippers were busy imposing their agenda on us. What they neglected when they kicked most everyone that could walk out of the psychiatric hospitals was that someone still had to make sure they both took their meds and looked after themselves. Needless to say it didn't happen because that would impose on their rights.

That is a cop out. BC always had a homeless problem before Riverview closed. How do you think Cliff wound up in BC? He got here long before Riverview closed.