Canadian economy heading for recession

CDNBear

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But but Harper saved us remember we were all going to sing together that we were
not included in the worlds melt down.
He did? We were?

Now its election time and we hear those old
world from politicians its the worlds fault.
What is?

The conservatives economic policies are the reason.
The reason for what?

Yes the world is part of it no
doubt but this government prepared to shield business first instead of the people.
Careful, Flosster makes fun of people who talk like that about ladders.

God help us if this guy gets elected again.
Why?

It is time for a change like never before.
True, there is always room for change.

I for one although not a hard line anything in politics will support Mulcair unless he does
something stupid.
lol, you always were going to, lol.

A recession is good in that the government that took credit for avoiding some problems
in 2008 must now own the slump they are confronted with.
If you believe we're in recession. I don't. I haven't seen any signs. Just doom and gloom posts by partisan morons, lol.
 

captain morgan

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damngrumpy

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There is a slowdown and recession and has been for months.
We need to oust this guy as soon as possible and Canadians
are fixing to do just that.
Call it doom and gloom or partisan or whatever Canadians are
not a happy lot regardless and its time for this government to end
 

CDNBear

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There is a slowdown and recession and has been for months.
There has?

I've lived through a recession, and near depression.

Not seeing what you're seeing.

We need to oust this guy as soon as possible and Canadians
are fixing to do just that.
Is you say so. It's your funeral.

Actually, it will be our funeral.

I wish you could get the govt you deserve all to yourself.

Call it doom and gloom or partisan or whatever Canadians are
not a happy lot
regardless and its time for this government to end
Probably just the dumb ones that can't think for themselves.
 

CDNBear

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Because of NAFTA and pitifully cheap labour in Mexico.
Well that would be one reason.

And since you brought that reason up. Can you explain what economic policy would mitigate it?

Really?

And here I thought that the mfg had moved to China and India...... Who knew that there was a wee clause in extra fine print that included China and India in NAFTA?
Shush you. You'll only confuse the wee lad.
 

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Really?

And here I thought that the mfg had moved to China and India...... Who knew that there was a wee clause in extra fine print that included China and India in NAFTA?
Well, Mexican China and Mexican India.

And Mexican Malaysia and Mexican Indonesia and Mexican Bangla Desh and Mexican Pakistan.
 

mentalfloss

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Geographically they are closer to the other trading partner who sure as hell isn't coming to us.

EU trade deal is also moving business to them.
 

CDNBear

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Geographically they are closer to the other trading partner who sure as hell isn't coming to us.

EU trade deal is also moving business to them.
Ummm, did you miss this...

Because of NAFTA and pitifully cheap labour in Mexico.
Well that would be one reason.

And since you brought that reason up. Can you explain what economic policy would mitigate it?
 

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Geographically they are closer to the other trading partner who sure as hell isn't coming to us.

EU trade deal is also moving business to them.
I wonder where in Mexico all those shipping containers running through the Port of Vancouver are coming from .
The ones that have COSCO printed on their sides .


China Overseas Shipping Company .
 

petros

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I wonder where in Mexico all those shipping containers running through the Port of Vancouver are coming from .
The ones that have COSCO printed on their sides .


China Overseas Shipping Company .

I use OOCL, they have a warehouse and docking locally
 

mentalfloss

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Dat biased financial post perspective.

Canada’s trade deficit widens as oil shock keeps reverberating: ‘It ain’t lookin’ good’
Financial Post | Canadian Business News, Investing and Commentary

Canada’s merchandise trade deficit widened to the second-largest on record in May, more evidence that weakness that started with an oil shock has extended beyond the first quarter.

The deficit widened to $3.34 billion from $2.99 billion in April and was second only to the record $3.57 billion shortfall in March, Statistics Canada said Tuesday in Ottawa. Exports fell for a fifth month.

The report adds to pressure on Bank of Canada Governor Stephen Poloz to cut interest rates next week for the second time this year, as an expected rebound in non-energy exports fails to materialize. The trade data and a jobs report later this week are the last major indicators before the central bank’s July 15 rate decision.

It ain’t lookin’ good

“The trade data were the first major indicator for May activity, and it ain’t lookin’ good,” Avery Shenfeld, chief economist at CIBC World Markets in Toronto, said in a research note. “That’s one more chip on the side of our forecast for a rate cut by the Bank of Canada next week.”

On Monday, Toronto-Dominion Bank Senior Economist Randall Bartlett said in a research note Canada probably fell into recession in the first half, due to the drop in oil prices. He also predicted Poloz will cut rates next week.

Canada’s dollar remained lower after the report, and was down 0.7 per cent to $1.2741 per U.S. dollar at 8:40 a.m. Toronto time.

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Shrinking Economy

Exports fell by 0.6 per cent to $42 billion in May, and they declined 6.7 per cent from the same month a year earlier. Metal ore and non-metallic mineral shipments fell 9.2 per cent to $1.44 billion in May and exports of industrial machinery, equipment and parts declined 3.5 per cent to $2.56 billion. Forestry product exports fell 3.2 per cent to $3.07 billion.

May’s overall trade deficit exceeded the median estimate of $2.55 billion in a Bloomberg News economist survey with 18 responses.

Falling crude oil prices earlier this year led to canceled investments and layoffs in Alberta and four straight contractions in national gross domestic product. Energy exports rose 1.3 per cent to $7.66 billion in May as oil prices stabilized, leaving them down 33.8 per cent over the past 12 months.

Imports rose 0.2 per cent to $45.3 billion, including a 2.3 per cent gain in consumer goods to $9.72 billion, Statistics Canada said.

Canada has posted trade deficits every month this year, and the cumulative 2015 total of $13.6 billion is a record, exceeding the next highest, in 2009, of $2.95 billion.

The volume of exports plunged 2.5 per cent in May while import volumes rose 0.3 per cent, Statistics Canada said. Volume figures adjust for price changes and can be a better indicator of how trade contributes to economic growth.

Poloz has said the shock of last year’s plunge in crude oil prices is “front loaded” and gains in other parts of the economy will take over in the second half of this year. On June 28 the central bank governor compared his January interest-rate cut to surgery made necessary by plunging oil prices.

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— With assistance from Erik Hertzberg in Ottawa.

Canada’s trade deficit widens as oil shock keeps reverberating: ‘It ain’t lookin’ good’