Canadian can be extradited to U.S. to face terror charge

In Between Man

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Well in my opinion your beliefs are completely opposed to what I as a Christian believe.

If you think God is going to let you into heaven because you're "good", you will be surprised my friend. You're essentially trying to bribe God with your "good deeds".

Does that work for a criminal before a judge? "I know I robbed that bank, but since then I have donated to charity, was kind to my neighbor, and loved my family". Any judge will say "irrelevant! It doesn't wipe away the wrong you committed and justice demands that you be punished!".

God is the same way Goober, that's why you need his grace and mercy to be forgiven. The bible is plain, it is by faith that we are saved, NOT BY WORKS. It is a gift from God. You don't "work" for a gift. (Ephesians 2:8)

Further, if Hitler was here today, he would say "I'm a good person, I purged Germany of Jews. God should let me into heaven".

Everyone is "good" when they conveniently judge themselves by their own standard, but it's not our standard that matters, only God's. You have to be PERFECT to stand before a PERFECT and HOLY God, which you can never do. Too late. Great news: Jesus did it for us!
 

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If you think God is going to let you into heaven because you're "good", you will be surprised my friend. You're essentially trying to bribe God with your "good deeds".

Does that work for a criminal before a judge? "I know I robbed that bank, but since then I have donated to charity, was kind to my neighbor, and loved my family". Any judge will say "irrelevant! It doesn't wipe away the wrong you committed and justice demands that you be punished!".

While I don't think good deed can expunge bad ones I do believe they can offset them.
 

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Now extradite him IMMEDIATELY just like how the UK extradited the blind guy to the US mere hours after the extradition ruling. No appeals.

Forget all about that due process BS eh? Why bother with a trial....just hang him now. Which is all good as an attitude til they come for you, then you might have a different view of appeals, due process and constitutional rights.
 

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While I don't think good deed can expunge bad ones I do believe they can offset them.

Okay, but even if good deeds offset your bad ones, you acknowledge that this is not the same as expunging them. Therefore, the bad deeds or sin still has to be punished! Offsetting cannot erase what's already been done!

That is why some folks are going to hell sadly, because without receiving Christ and what He did on the cross (took our punishment) they'll have to pay for their sins by themselves.
 

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Okay, but even if good deeds offset your bad ones, you acknowledge that this is not the same as expunging them. Therefore, the bad deeds or sin still has to be punished! Offsetting cannot erase what's already been done!

That is why some folks are going to hell sadly, because without receiving Christ and what He did on the cross (took our punishment) they'll have to pay for their sins by themselves.

I would imagine somebody running round telling everyone they are going to hell should be first in line to get in. Me, I don't believe in hell so not a likely candidate to wind up there.
 

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Forget all about that due process BS eh? Why bother with a trial....just hang him now. Which is all good as an attitude til they come for you, then you might have a different view of appeals, due process and constitutional rights.

"Realize what war is. It is brutal & ugly and there are NO RULES to the game....It's WAR, not checkers!"

No appeals for the enemies we're at war with. You got it.

Me, I don't believe in hell so not a likely candidate to wind up there.

You willing to risk all of eternity on that!
 

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Forget all about that due process BS eh? Why bother with a trial....just hang him now. Which is all good as an attitude til they come for you, then you might have a different view of appeals, due process and constitutional rights.

It's not the due process that is the problem, it is the length of the process, stuff that should be done in two or three days often takes years, because it sits on someone's desk.

Okay, but even if good deeds offset your bad ones, you acknowledge that this is not the same as expunging them. Therefore, the bad deeds or sin still has to be punished! Offsetting cannot erase what's already been done!

That is why some folks are going to hell sadly, because without receiving Christ and what He did on the cross (took our punishment) they'll have to pay for their sins by themselves.

I prefer to think in terms of restitution more than punishment. You can punish someone all you want, but it doesn't put things right.
 

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I prefer to think in terms of restitution more than punishment. You can punish someone all you want, but it doesn't put things right.

But that's the good news JLM! You don't have to pay restitution! Jesus Christ PAID the restitution!

It's a free gift from God. Repent, believe, be saved. (John 3:16)
 

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"Realize what war is. It is brutal & ugly and there are NO RULES to the game....It's WAR, not checkers!"

No appeals for the enemies we're at war with. You got it.



You willing to risk all of eternity on that!

Sylvia Browne wrote some very good books on the subject of the hereafter. She doesn't believe in Hell as such, but there is a handful of baddies like Hitler that just spend the rest of eternity just floating around out there. I found her books fairly credible.
 

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Oh so its just because the process doesn't fit your schedule we should forget about our constitutional rights? Or is it just because it is a Muslim immigrant. Be honest now about your reasons. I'm guessing it is the fact it is a Muslim immigrant that gets you all in an hurry to violate civil rights but that is due to the govt brainwashing you have all succumbed to.
 

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But that's the good news JLM! You don't have to pay restitution! Jesus Christ PAID the restitution!

It's a free gift from God. Repent, believe, be saved. (John 3:16)

So I go out and break down a guys house and steal his stuff, are you saying Christ already made arrangements in advance to put it right?
 

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"Realize what war is. It is brutal & ugly and there are NO RULES to the game....It's WAR, not checkers!"

No appeals for the enemies we're at war with. You got it.

Even Nazi war criminals got appeals. There are rules. We signed on to them. If there truly are 'no rules in war' then there would be nothing wrong with what the enemy does as there are no rules.

Also we pulled out of the combat role in Afghanistan which effectively ends our part in the 'war.' We also never took part in the Iraq war and it was Iraq where this person's alleged crimes took place. Iraq was a war of choice for the US. We chose not to go along with them.

What do you mean "they'd never let it pass"? Who made 2 percent of the population in charge?

They vote, they get a say. Just as we all do. The government would have to make this decision. There is no way the government would turn on any religious group now. That'd set us back over a century as a society. Also not all Muslims in Canada came from the middle east or Asia. There are a number of Canadian born white Muslims. Its a religion, not a race. There are Muslims in parliament and a number of provincial legislatures and city councils. You really think they'd let that pass without making a lot of noise? And you really think the rest of the population would go along with it?

The 19th century is over.