Canada's treatment of Khadr should be

[hunboldt]

That has to be the truest statement I've heard from you in all the years we've been on the forum.


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After all our convincing Hunboldt, we are going to have to mark the learned Capt. as doubtful. -

Unfortunately, it became a case of the 'last live person' must have thrown the Grenade.

 

[Goober]

Brainwashed at age 12. The Family should have been charged for abuse.
He was what under international law and by UN Convention, of which we are a signatory, a child soldier.
Here we are worked up about 1- But when in Liberia and other countries civil wars where each side used Child Soldiers, reintegration is key.
They are not sent to prison for decades as some would want.

 

[captain morgan]

Brainwashed at age 12. The Family should have been charged for abuse.
He was what under international law and by UN Convention, of which we are a signatory, a child soldier.
Here we are worked up about 1- But when in Liberia and other countries civil wars where each side used Child Soldiers, reintegration is key.
They are not sent to prison for decades as some would want.

Khadr was in no way a 'soldier' - not a citizen of Afghanistan, nor in uniform.... Mercenary, maybe... Terrorist, definitely.

 

[Goober]

Khadr was in no way a 'soldier' - not a citizen of Afghanistan, nor in uniform.... Mercenary, maybe... Terrorist, definitely.

At age 15, after indoctrination by his father and the rest of the family.
Still falls under the UN Convention.
Problem is why were they not charged.

Next- Why does the Govt change the law that certain crimes committed and convicted of will result in loss of Citizenship and immediate deportation.

Presently after attaining Citizenship, it can only be revoked if you provided false information.
Fuk me- Change the law.

 

[JLM]

Khadr was in no way a 'soldier' - not a citizen of Afghanistan, nor in uniform.... Mercenary, maybe... Terrorist, definitely.

In your opinion which you are totally entitled to! -

 

[captain morgan]

At age 15, after indoctrination by his father and the rest of the family.
Still falls under the UN Convention.
Problem is why were they not charged.

He's not Afghani, is he?.. He is (sadly) Canadian and I might remind you not fighting on Canadian soil. Call him a 'child mercenary' if you must

(btw - the UN flip-flops every few years on their definitions, so pointing to some useless UN convention is entirely meaningless)

Next- Why does the Govt change the law that certain crimes committed and convicted of will result in loss of Citizenship and immediate deportation.

Blaming the Canadian Feds for what Khadr did half way around the world is disingenuous

Presently after attaining Citizenship, it can only be revoked if you provided false information.
Fuk me- Change the law.

Is Omar an Afghan citizen?... I didn't think so

Also, nothing stopping the Canadian gvt from handing poor wee Omar to the Afghanistan authorities toi answer for his crimes committed on their soil

 

[Goober]

He's not Afghani, is he?.. He is (sadly) Canadian and I might remind you not fighting on Canadian soil. Call him a 'child mercenary' if you must

(btw - the UN flip-flops every few years on their definitions, so pointiong to some useless UN convention is entirely meaningless)



Blaming the Canadian Feds for what Khadr did half way around the world is disingenious



Is Omar an Afghan citizen?... I didn't think so

Also, nothing stopping the Canadian gvt from handing poor wee Omar to the Afghanistan authorities toi answer for his crimes committed on their soil

I am blaming all Govts- But this one in particular is heavy on a crime and punishment agenda. So they get more that half.
Shxt the could not even get pardons correct - Recall they changed the pardon laws but forgot about that Hockey Coach and pedo and created a big news storm about changing the law, the very law they wrote.

Not all the children born in Canada. Omar was.

The Parents and the Grandparents immigrated to Canada.

Khadr family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[captain morgan]

I am blaming all Govts- But this one in particular is heavy on a crime and punishment agenda. So they get more that half.

No offence Goober, but you'll bend over backwards to set blame on Harpers shoulders on anything

Not all the children born in Canada. Omar was.

The Parents and the Grandparents immigrated to Canada.

Khadr family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't care about his parents or grandparents.... They didn't make the IEDs or throw the grenade.

btw - Omar's brother was under the identical influences, yet he didn't volunteer to become a murderer... I don't buy the brain-wash sh*t either

 

[Goober]

No offence Goober, but you'll bend over backwards to set blame on Harpers shoulders on anything




Don't care about his parents or grandparents.... They didn't make the IEDs or throw the grenade.

btw - Omar's brother was under the identical influences, yet he didn't volunteer to become a murderer... I don't buy the brain-wash sh*t either

Yep- I do not like Harper- I like the others much less. He is in power, the others are not.
Parents are guilty of child abuse, same with the grandparents.
Do you object to changing the law.

 

[captain morgan]

Yep- I do not like Harper- I like the others much less. He is in power, the others are not.

Fair enough, but hanging all of the problems associated with Canadian legal issues that have been developed over the last few hundred years exclusively on Harper simply isn't realistic.

My opinion that is

Parents are guilty of child abuse, same with the grandparents.

I agree.... But Omar still did what he did, and do not ignore the reality that the older brother, under the exact same influences (possibly even stronger as he was older) did not take that road.

Do you object to changing the law.

Pedo laws?... I vote that the gvt ban any form of protective custody for pedos... General population for them.. NO EXCEPTIONS

 

[Goober]

Fair enough, but hanging all of the problems associated with Canadian legal issues that have been developed over the last few hundred years exclusively on Harper simply isn't realistic.

My opinion that is





I agree.... But Omar still did what he did, and do not ignore the reality that the older brother, under the exact same influences (possibly even stronger as he was older) did not take that road.



Pedo laws?... I vote that the gvt ban any form of protective custody for pedos... General population for them.. NO EXCEPTIONS

General population- May as well kill them.
I am not hanging Harper- he promised to tighten up the rules and he has in many cases- This is a major one. And he will not touch it due to political considerations.

Omar did what he did due to training and indoctrination. My opinion and I ain`t changing it.
The parent- grandparents- should have been charged- they were not due to political consideration in my opinion.
Then sent ffn back to where they emigrated from.

 

[hunboldt]

No offence Goober, but you'll bend over backwards to set blame on Harpers shoulders on anything




Don't care about his parents or grandparents.... They didn't make the IEDs or throw the grenade.

btw - Omar's brother was under the identical influences, yet he didn't volunteer to become a murderer... I don't buy the brain-wash sh*t either

We can all understand your frustration, and a medic was killed. However, in the deleted pix of the wounded Khadr, it's pretty questionable if he could have thrown I, or if it waS One of the dead Taliban.

 

[JLM]

Khadr was in no way a 'soldier' - not a citizen of Afghanistan, nor in uniform.... Mercenary, maybe... Terrorist, definitely.

Do you have any first hand knowledge of Omar, have you met him in person or are you just flapping your gums?

 

[captain morgan]

General population- May as well kill them.

That's the general idea... Jailhouse justice can be a b*tch

I am not hanging Harper- he promised to tighten up the rules and he has in many cases- This is a major one. And he will not touch it due to political considerations.

How about the Libs that protected the Locherbie airline bombers?

Omar did what he did due to training and indoctrination. My opinion and I ain`t changing it.
The parent- grandparents- should have been charged- they were not due to political consideration in my opinion.
Then sent ffn back to where they emigrated from.

I vas onlly following orders.... Didn't work at Nuremburg, why make the exception now?

We can all understand your frustration, and a medic was killed. However, in the deleted pix of the wounded Khadr, it's pretty questionable if he could have thrown I, or if it waS One of the dead Taliban.

Whatever... There is plenty of evidence of his atrocities.

Curious though, how many of the IEDs that Omar constructed killed or crippled innocent children in the area?... Any thoughts?

Do you have any first hand knowledge of Omar, have you met him in person or are you just flapping your gums?

Let me ask you then Einstein... Was Khadr an Afghani citizen?.. Do you have first-hand knowledge that he was in some form of recognizable uniform?

Really man, stop being such a fool

 

[JLM]

Let me ask you then Einstein... Was Khadr an Afghani citizen?.. Do you have first-hand knowledge that he was in some form of recognizable uniform?

Really man, stop being such a fool

You are missing the entire point, none of that stuff is an issue. What is an issue is that even the most heinous murderer under the age of 18 has NOT served the amount of time Omar has already served. And even then they were proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. His citizenship or what he was wearing is not the issue.

 

[petros]

At age 15, after indoctrination by his father and the rest of the family.
Still falls under the UN Convention.
Problem is why were they not charged.

Next- Why does the Govt change the law that certain crimes committed and convicted of will result in loss of Citizenship and immediate deportation.

Presently after attaining Citizenship, it can only be revoked if you provided false information.
Fuk me- Change the law.

Where was the declaration of war under the UN convention that gives Canada or US the legal ability to call this guy who was living outside of Canada and the US a criminal?

 

[hunboldt]

In your opinion which you are totally entitled to! -

Nothing gets the message across, JLM. The evidence that Khadr threw the hand grenade was entirely circumstantial. Unfortunately, the picture of a wounded Omar Khadr was deemed 'too gory for innocent eyes'

But, its now on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khadr.