Not even a close comparison. Capt. You are smarter than that, much smarter in fact.
Canada's shame - The truth is coming out and what we did as a country is disgusting.
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Not even a close comparison. Capt. You are smarter than that, much smarter in fact.
For the Brain Dead- Sorry Ger had to borrow it.
The program stopped in 96 - 18 years ago - wow - that is so far in the past.
For those that go on about band corruption- What have Libs and Cons really done to address this.
If we as a country do not get into meaningful negotiations with First Nations, Oka will be like a walk in the park.
The anger is rising, and these people will turn to other means.
Rule of Law- We have treaties that were signed and upheld by the courts in this country.
Translation- The Law is paramount- You cannot cherry pick what Laws you like. And blaming all First Nations - well - that is Brain Dead - Donate your organs quickly.
The program stopped in 96 - 18 years ago - wow - that is so far in the past.
For those that go on about band corruption- What have Libs and Cons really done to address this.
If we as a country do not get into meaningful negotiations with First Nations, Oka will be like a walk in the park.
The anger is rising, and these people will turn to other means.
Rule of Law- We have treaties that were signed and upheld by the courts in this country.
Translation- The Law is paramount- You cannot cherry pick what Laws you like. And blaming all First Nations - well - that is Brain Dead - Donate your organs quickly.
It's probably a lot closer than you think.
The resi school issue is founded on an assumption that a program of wholesale assimilation - that is only now being charged as 'cultural genocide' was engaged for all FN children across all times (from 1870 thru 1996) and in all cases. Further, the charge is that it was the policy of the institution(s) that resulted in the abuse and never (ever) attributed to some jerk-wad azzhole(s) that were running the schools.
These are egregious assumptions, yet our PC society is unable (due to the PC nature of the issue) to even ask the questions, let alone attempt to get the accounts of any remaining individuals that ran the schools.
As to abuse - we have the info- as to using them to test vitamin supplements - we have the info- we have more than enough info.
From the article-
Over many decades — from the 1870s to 1996 — 150,000 aboriginal children were taken from their families and sent by the federal government to church-run schools, where many faced physical and sexual abuse.
Were each and every one of these FN children used to test vitamin supplements?
Any other kids in the community at large used for similar (fluoridation comes to mind)
Any other kids in the community at large used for similar (fluoridation comes to mind)
Western countries are the worst ever. Why can't we be more like North Korea?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...to-120-dogs-as-officials-watched-9037109.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...to-120-dogs-as-officials-watched-9037109.html
Nope- the tests if I recall took place in Manitoba- some were provided and others were not- data went to the corporations if I recall.
That was in the 50's
Is that the standard you go by?
I'd rather aim a wee bit higher than that, thanks.
If we read the quotes from the governments of the time, late 1800s to early 1900's, the intent was explicitly laid out to be assimilation, civilization, and Christianization. By the 1960s the rhetoric had changed. In the B&B Commission report in the 1960s, 'integration' had become the code word, bearing in mind indigenous communities were already pretty ravaged by then.
yet even today we're not prepared to let go of the spoils we'd gained from this process. Hd it not been for this genocide, Canada would be far more multicultural today, and the idea of an Anglo-French Canada as Trudeau Sr envisioned it would have been a figment of his immagination. This genocide had made it a reality to which we cling greedily even today.
You can laugh at the issues. Thought you were more intelligen than that. in fact i know you are.
Once a country, as Canada did and still does with FN People, treats people as less than themselves, bad shxt happens.
I disagree- a very smart young man.
I really hate to say it, but, Machjo is right. Government policy from the beginning was assimilation. Get rid of the pesky injun problem by slowly making em disappear by assimilation.
I was just saying, SOMETIMES I wonder.
what should now be done about the damage that was imparted within their walls
what is owed by society to the people who were thus damaged
Good thing those numbers don't include all the deaths from diseases like pox, TB, polio, measles, a cold, dysentery, ecoli, giardia or an infection from a skinned knee or things would look even worse.
You be hard pressed to find a white family that didn't lose a child during that era.
How much? $34,000 in ar$e money which was already paid out.
I just don't know where we go from here. Where do we go from here?
but what does this mean...what needs to be done?
Nothing. It was anywhere from bad to horrible, but the Canadian people didn't intend the schools to be horrible. In time, when they found out how they were, they shut them down.
Bad things happen. It's good when they get corrected. But you can't compensate everybody for everything bad that happens. I could see possibly giving the specific individuals who were harmed a cause of action, but nothing beyond that.
