Canada's Federal Election 2015: The Official Thread

[Corduroy]

The means of production is in China, so will it be a causeway to Asia or hundreds of aircraft carrier to ferry the new improved F35s close enough to bomb something? This would create employment in the infrastructure sectors and provide an excuse to eliminate the rockies at the same time.

If the means of production are in China and China is communist then we're already living in a communist utopia! Why does it seem so much like a capitalism dystopia then?

 

[JamesBondo]

What needs to be done to address our financial debt? Nationalize the banks? Tell the creditors to go **** themselves? Seize the means of production? Overthrow the bourgeois state?

there are really only 3 things they can do.

Pay off the debt. Not a chance of that happening so long as the banking system is designed to turn 37 billion of actual borrowed money into over 350 billion dollars in interest debt. The gov needs to cut up their credit cards, but our society likes to cry too much for unsustainable services.

Use inflation to make it insignificant. Buy back the debt, and watch hyperinflation kill the economy.

Default on the loans. Immediate economic collapse.

 

[JLM]

I don't even watch hockey, but this is a Canadian forum and you gotta play to the crowd.

Not even the Canucks? Shame on you!

 

[MHz]

When do we a 'Trump ' card to play?

Trump = 93% approval
Putin = 93% approval
Canadian ruling party = 51% approval.

 

[JLM]

What needs to be done to address our financial debt?

I'm not sure Dick Tracy could answer that. Probably cut most unessential programs - those that aren't life or health threatening, identify infrastructure repairs that need doing right now and do them while interest rates are rock bottom. Transfer useless bureaucraps to jobs that address and improve safety issues and do the same with able bodied and healthy welfare recipients so at least we are getting value for the $s spent.

 

[pgs]

It matters because the Conservatives said they would balance the budget, and they didn't, and they're running on the myth that they did. Nonsense like what you're saying, the budget was balanced before it was unbalanced, doesn't change the fact that it's not balanced and that it's not a Conservative achievement. It's a failure. Saying that it is balanced is a lie. Why is the unbalanced budget sticking point? Because it's the truth.

At this point in the fiscal year we know neither total expenditures or total revenue .

What needs to be done to address our financial debt? Nationalize the banks? Tell the creditors to go **** themselves? Seize the means of production? Overthrow the bourgeois state?

How did that work out in Russia ? or Cuba ? Vietnam maybe . I hear China has a bourgeois state sanctioned tanking stock market .

 

[mentalfloss]

Harper, Trudeau spar over Liberal plan to rebuild infrastructure, run deficits | Election 2015

 

[MHz]

At this point in the fiscal year we know neither total expenditures or total revenue .


How did that work out in Russia ? or Cuba ? Vietnam maybe . I hear China has a bourgeois state sanctioned tanking stock market .

Why leave Iceland out when putting a few bankers and politicians in jail and just cancelling the debt to the world bank, the one we give $30B to ever-year just in interest fees. (let alone pay off an illegal debt)

 

[Corduroy]

there are really only 3 things they can do.

Pay off the debt. Not a chance of that happening so long as the banking system is designed to turn 37 billion of actual borrowed money into over 350 billion dollars in interest debt. The gov needs to cut up their credit cards, but our society likes to cry too much for unsustainable services.

Use inflation to make it insignificant. Buy back the debt, and watch hyperinflation kill the economy.

Default on the loans. Immediate economic collapse.

I suppose the one you want them to do is the first one.

 

[JLM]

I suppose the one you want them to do is the first one.

Probably not a bad idea!

 

[Corduroy]

Probably not a bad idea!

It's practically a tautology. But I'm sure he didn't mean it like that. Probably just wanted to describe austerity.

 

[mentalfloss]

Best news I've heard in a long time.


NDP leader Mulcair says professional sports shouldn’t expect help from Ottawa | National Newswatch

 

[taxslave]

there are really only 3 things they can do.

Pay off the debt. Not a chance of that happening so long as the banking system is designed to turn 37 billion of actual borrowed money into over 350 billion dollars in interest debt. The gov needs to cut up their credit cards, but our society likes to cry too much for unsustainable services.

Use inflation to make it insignificant. Buy back the debt, and watch hyperinflation kill the economy.

Default on the loans. Immediate economic collapse.

trudeau tried the idea of using inflation to make debt insignificant. Fukked the country big time. MAde interest rates go to 21%.
The proper way is the same as your household. Don't spend more than you make.Unfortunately most households no longer follow this simple rule to financial independence. Using this example it is OK to use debt to buy a house but it is NOT OK to borrow to go on a vacation.

Best news I've heard in a long time.


NDP leader Mulcair says professional sports shouldn’t expect help from Ottawa | National Newswatch

Rejoice. You got one right. Might even get a greeny from wally and spoil your perfect record.

 

[mentalfloss]

You really should recognize by now that it's not about tax and spend or cut and save, it's about what you tax and what you cut that's important.

 

[Cliffy]

Public servant being investigated for writing and performing anti-Tory ‘Harperman’ song

An Ottawa federal scientist is being investigated for breaching the public service’s ethics code for writing and performing a highly political protest song to get rid of the Harper government.
Tony Turner, a scientist in habitat planning at Environment Canada, was recently sent home on leave with pay while the government investigates the making of Harperman, a music video posted on YouTube in early June that has attracted about 48,000 hits.

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/c...iting-and-performing-anti-tory-harperman-song

Great lyrics...

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

You really should recognize by now that it's not about tax and spend or cut and save, it's about what you tax and what you cut that's important.

Of course, you must not tax the deadbeats. Only anybody making more than $70k/year. Typical middle class. People making more will likely declare their income elsewhere of course.

 

[JLM]

It's practically a tautology. But I'm sure he didn't mean it like that. Probably just wanted to describe austerity.

Now, there's a new word!

Best news I've heard in a long time.


NDP leader Mulcair says professional sports shouldn’t expect help from Ottawa | National Newswatch

You just ain't Whistlin' Dixie.

 

[mentalfloss]

Of course, you must not tax the deadbeats. Only anybody making more than $70k/year. Typical middle class. People making more will likely declare their income elsewhere of course.

What are you on about?

I just don't like hockey and think it's a waste of my money funding it.

It's like the Military or the Tarsands.

It's a waste of subsidy funds.

 

[JLM]

What are you on about?

I just don't like hockey and think it's a waste of my money funding it.

It's like the Military or the Tarsands.

It's a waste of subsidy funds.

I have to disagree, I think physical exercise is vitally important & I don't believe any money spent on a child to play hockey (or soccer or softball or swimming) is a waste. On the other hand I'm not too horny about subsidizing the likes of Dennis Rodman.

Using this example it is OK to use debt to buy a house but it is NOT OK to borrow to go on a vacation.

Yet the f**king banks are all for it. Just goes to show how irresponsible people are who should have the brains to know better and a good part of the reason why so many people are in dire financial straits today. Actually borrowing even to buy a house is questionable. Borrow to buy a trailer first and then live in it while you save the cash to buy a house. You can probably save enough in ten years vs. paying a mortgage for 25 while most of the money goes into other A$$holes' pockets.

 

[taxslave]

What are you on about?

I just don't like hockey and think it's a waste of my money funding it.

It's like the Military or the Tarsands.

It's a waste of subsidy funds.

Good thing Canada does not have any tar sands to subsidize.