Canada's Economy gets Downgraded

mentalfloss

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Well since you've effectively written off any substantial contribution to this thread, how about we take a look at the province that truly is bringing the rest of the country down..


RBC predicts recession for Alberta in 2015 | Calgary Herald
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RBC Economics has joined the Conference Board of Canada in forecasting a recession for Alberta, saying real GDP in the province will decline by one per cent this year.

The conference board last week said Alberta can’t avoid a recession in 2015, while predicting the economy will fall by 0.7 per cent, following 4.4 per cent growth last year.

“Alberta’s energy sector continues to bear the brunt of the drop in oil prices, but the broader effects have yet to be felt fully and the resilience of Alberta’s non-energy sectors will likely come under more intense pressure in the coming months,” Craig Wright, RBC senior vice-president and chief economist, said in a statement.

Wright said RBC expects energy prices will see a gradual recovery and help contribute to growth of 1.7 per cent in 2016.

The RBC report said the annual employment growth will fall from 2.2 per cent in 2014 to 0.4 per cent this year and 0.9 per cent in 2016. It forecasts retail sales will contract by 0.3 per cent this year, after growing 7.5 per cent in 2014. Sales are expected to rebound with 3.6 per cent growth in 2016.

It said recent economic signals suggest “plummeting confidence in the province have largely abated in recent months, with the drubbing in the housing market stabilizing and stream of layoffs announcements not denting employment in a material way, so far, at least.”

Last week, Statistics Canada reported the collapse in oil prices helped shrink Canada’s real gross domestic product in the first quarter by 0.6 per cent on an annualized basis.

Todd Hirsch, chief economist with ATB Financial, said 2015 is shaping up as a slow year for Alberta’s economy.

“Still, growth had been exceptionally strong over the last decade-and-a-half, and that has lifted most people’s wages and wealth. In fact, Albertans have the lowest probability of being low income or holding no wealth,” he said.

A Statistics Canada report Wednesday on the distribution of wealth among families in Canada found only 2.1 per cent of Alberta families were considered to be “low income or holding no wealth” in 2013.

“The current slowdown may result in an increase in the rate of low income and no wealth, depending on the severity and length of the downturn. However, nearly a year into the slide in oil prices, employment and earnings are still holding up quite well,” said Hirsch.

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RBC predicts recession for Alberta in 2015 | Calgary Herald
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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How about you address the underlying issues here Flossie.... Where is all of the bennies to Canadians now that we have a weak dollar and the price of oil is low.

Fact is this, much like your misguided ideas on AGW, your theories on the Cdn economy and resource development is azz-backwards once again.

Lemme repost the graphic Boomer offered.... Got any comments on this?


This should be an ideal environment for Ontario to flourish. Too bad the government is too incompetent to take advantage.

When the economy is doing well, it's because of the feds.

When the economy is doing poorly, it's because of Ontario.


Conbot logic.

Where your position is if its doing well, its because of Ontario and if its doing poorly its because of the Feds or Alberta?
 

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This should be an ideal environment for Ontario to flourish. Too bad the government is too incompetent to take advantage.



Where your position is if its doing well, its because of Ontario and if its doing poorly its because of the Feds or Alberta?

Are we getting the complete story here or is it a matter of oranges vs. apples?
 

mentalfloss

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My position has remained consistent and verifiable throughout this whole mess.

It's clearly obvious that the federal government has been supporting one particular industry more effectively than some others.

If you need a hint, just ask Tim Hortons as the whole party gets in butthurt boycott mode because they dropped a couple of ads from their shops (oh the horror!). The fact that Tim Hortons has gone from Canadian Corporate Heritage posterboy to compete villain in the last 24 hours makes that reality obvious enough.

And the fact that we are possibly heading toward a recession because of such a lopsided portfolio only furthers the point.

You reap what you sow folks.

Let's not make this mistake again.
 

mentalfloss

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You mean how we had to sell shares to keep from running a deficit? (which we still ran?)

Yea, I remember that.

Keep it coming mon.

You'll just get it back with twice the force.
 

petros

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Why on earth would investment in GM Camaros be a good thing? Ford sells 2 Mustangs for every 1 Camaro and Dodge Challenger combined. This would make Ford a better place to invest taxpayer money.
 

mentalfloss

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It was obvious even before I opened your link:

Even with the increase, the national unemployment rate in May remained locked at 6.8 per cent for the fourth straight month.


Cons.

They just love conning!
 

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It was obvious even before I opened your link:

Even with the increase, the national unemployment rate in May remained locked at 6.8 per cent for the fourth straight month.


Cons.

They just love conning!

It could be a quirk based on the flawed way do the statistics. If you are not looking, you are not counted. But if jobs get added and you start looking, then you get counted again. The initial uptick in the economy will always have quirks where jobs are added with little, no or even negative change in the %. This has been true for all governments for as long as they have been counting the % this way.
 

mentalfloss

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Let's not forget that the true indicator of economic performance (GDP) is still negative.
 

petros

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Not at all. Not all of Canada is hurting therefore there are regional problems which are Provincial problems

What's your problem?.
 

mentalfloss

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Lol

Yes, it's just a regional problem.

When there isn't enough production from certain 'regions' and that inevitably leads to national debt, it's okay because it's a 'regional problem' lol

This is great material.

Keep em coming.
 

JLM

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It was obvious even before I opened your link:

Even with the increase, the national unemployment rate in May remained locked at 6.8 per cent for the fourth straight month.


Cons.

They just love conning!

Because more people are registered as looking for work. Also a lot of people are working "under the table" who probably aren't listed on either side. "Figures can lie and Liars can figure"
 

taxslave

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That's it, eh? They make a few cars in Ontario and pump ALL THE REST OF THE COUNTRY'S MONEY out the the ground around Leduc.

Sure hope that your "finish high school diploma course on line" is coming along.

I forgot to add that they suck the rest of the country dry of cash. Except what they generously give to that other money pit called queerbek. But I thought even you would know that if you can operate a computer.
 

taxslave

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Well since you've effectively written off any substantial contribution to this thread, how about we take a look at the province that truly is bringing the rest of the country down..


RBC predicts recession for Alberta in 2015 | Calgary Herald
calgaryherald.com

RBC Economics has joined the Conference Board of Canada in forecasting a recession for Alberta, saying real GDP in the province will decline by one per cent this year.

The conference board last week said Alberta can’t avoid a recession in 2015, while predicting the economy will fall by 0.7 per cent, following 4.4 per cent growth last year.

“Alberta’s energy sector continues to bear the brunt of the drop in oil prices, but the broader effects have yet to be felt fully and the resilience of Alberta’s non-energy sectors will likely come under more intense pressure in the coming months,” Craig Wright, RBC senior vice-president and chief economist, said in a statement.

Wright said RBC expects energy prices will see a gradual recovery and help contribute to growth of 1.7 per cent in 2016.

The RBC report said the annual employment growth will fall from 2.2 per cent in 2014 to 0.4 per cent this year and 0.9 per cent in 2016. It forecasts retail sales will contract by 0.3 per cent this year, after growing 7.5 per cent in 2014. Sales are expected to rebound with 3.6 per cent growth in 2016.

It said recent economic signals suggest “plummeting confidence in the province have largely abated in recent months, with the drubbing in the housing market stabilizing and stream of layoffs announcements not denting employment in a material way, so far, at least.”

Last week, Statistics Canada reported the collapse in oil prices helped shrink Canada’s real gross domestic product in the first quarter by 0.6 per cent on an annualized basis.

Todd Hirsch, chief economist with ATB Financial, said 2015 is shaping up as a slow year for Alberta’s economy.

“Still, growth had been exceptionally strong over the last decade-and-a-half, and that has lifted most people’s wages and wealth. In fact, Albertans have the lowest probability of being low income or holding no wealth,” he said.

A Statistics Canada report Wednesday on the distribution of wealth among families in Canada found only 2.1 per cent of Alberta families were considered to be “low income or holding no wealth” in 2013.

“The current slowdown may result in an increase in the rate of low income and no wealth, depending on the severity and length of the downturn. However, nearly a year into the slide in oil prices, employment and earnings are still holding up quite well,” said Hirsch.

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RBC predicts recession for Alberta in 2015 | Calgary Herald

So you are admitting that voting in a dipper government has had an immediate negative effect on Alberta's economic output.