Canada to admit nearly 1 million immigrants over next 3 years

Twin_Moose

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Tecumsehsbones said:
Same as there is for a young Native American, or whatever the heck they're calling us this week. A desire to see more of the world and have better stuff.
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From what I have noticed with my foreign eyes that a better work ethic is being pushed in your communities, stereotyping and bigotry is a bigger reason for holding back your brother's and sisters. Here on the most part any First Canadian trying to break through to the white man's world and better themselves were ridiculed for fighting against the First Nations struggles for all. I know of families that were burned out and banned from their reserves for trying to get ahead, they moved of reserves and still made out OK, but not as well as they were doing by taking advantage of resources available from the reserve system.
 
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Twin_Moose said:
From what I have noticed with my foreign eyes that a better work ethic is being pushed in your communities, stereotyping and bigotry is a bigger reason for holding back your brother's and sisters. Here on the most part any First Canadian trying to break through to the white man's world and better themselves were ridiculed for fighting against the First Nations struggles for all. I know of families that were burned out and banned from their reserves for trying to get ahead, they moved of reserves and still made out OK, but not as well as they were doing by taking advantage of resources available from the reserve system.
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So what? I was ridiculed and bullied by red and white (and black, brown, and yellow). I put on my big-boy warpaint and got on with it.

Nobody has it easy. If you want a good life, you have to work for it. You will never be a warrior, or even an adult, waiting for a government handout. Or listening to losers.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
OK, Jin, V, I hear you. This kinda cuts against petros's desire for immigrants with skills and good credit ratings.
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Not at all, at least from my perspective. I have no problem with immigration when there's a rhyme and reason to it. I have no problem with hiring outside of Canada if a high skilled position or profession can't be filled domestically. I have also said repeatedly that only those who have an in-demand skill or profession should be permitted entry as economic migrants.
Bringing in foreign workers to work shitty paying corporate McJobs doesn't really encourage those corporations to offer better pay.
Let's take McDonald's for example. Maybe part of the reason they can't find enough employees is because the market has been inundated with minimum rage jobs. There's only so many people still living at home to go around and quite frankly, we can do with a damn sight fewer fast-food dumps, for a variety of reasons.

As was also previously pointed out in this thread and what I've also argued about is that in Canada, the vast bulk of migrants tend to settle in one of three city regions with most of them settling in the Toronto area. This creates serious problems for the region. They have to keep adding infrastructure to keep up with the artificial annual increase in population which means less or even no money to replace aging infrastructure or maintain existing infrastructure.
 
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petros said:
So why aren't you posting current numbers?

Too embarrassed?
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Don't have to. You're the simpleton that's arguing against my premise that people need shelter and more people = more shelter required. The funny part is that you're posting year old vacancy numbers as if it's relevant. At this point it's no longer about the premise and is about you getting pwned by me for the umpteenth time. That's why you're one of my favorites.
 
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Cannuck said:
Feel free to get mad at me yet again
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I think you are mistaking contempt for anger.

Tecumsehsbones said:
OK, Jin, V, I hear you. This kinda cuts against petros's desire for immigrants with skills and good credit ratings.
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I don't have a major problem with immigrants with skills and good credit ratings. I have an economic problem with immigrants who come here and who do not earn enough under our progressive income tax system to actually pay tax. I also take issue with the social aspects of replacing what I think of as a pretty tolerant, kind, fair and just culture with whatever a mass of third-world foreigners decides on. Because none of them come from nations with very kindly or tolerant value systems.

I also have a problem with the whole justification for mass immigration. The noted British economist Paul Collier pointed out that mass immigration hurts third world nations a lot by siphoning off many of their better educated people. It also hurts the poor and lower middle class in destination nations by lowering wages, standards, and social benefits. Who does it help? The rich, of course. Corporations in destination countries, and those who own most of the stock in them love it.

Back in 1984 Canada's immigration level was about 85,000. Canada's then immigration minister ( representing a Toronto riding with high immigration) wanted to triple immigration. According to a media report she tried to convince them it would boost the economy. But a report commissioned by the Economic Council of Canada said it might help a bit, might hurt a bit, depending on the immigrants. So what settled the issue? She told cabinet new immigrants tended to vote for the party in power when they came in, and letting in so many immigrants would guarantee the Progressive Conservative Party a new influx of loyal voters.

So we tripled immigration purely for political reasons. Which is the reason we're increasing it now. There is no real economic justification for this. McDougall Wins Battle To Increase Immigration - Immigration Watch Canada
 
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Let's suppose that any person could work in Canada visa-free for as long as he wants as long as he meets the following standards:

1. He must earn an officially-mandated minimum hourly wage and a minimum weekly wage.

2. He has no criminal record.

Now what would be the economic argument against that?
 
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