Canada Post Strike

bob the dog

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All the "Free Shipping" garbage from China is killing CanadaPost. We subsidize it through a biased international post rate system
Doesn't seem right that we should be held hostage to an agreement ratified in 1874 even though it has been amended.

Same deal with the Banking Act of 1867. Hard to get rid of it once it is in.
 

Taxslave2

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As an essential worker, I can agree with that.

When we went on strike a few years ago, we always have a list of 'essential' vs. non. Funny how we always are working even then though, because we never have enough staff to be considered 'non-essential', or at least, not needed to cover shifts.
You also have much the same problem every government agency does. Most of the management worked their way up. The Peter Principle come s to mind. Sometimes this is fair for workers, sometimes not. From a management perspective, no new blood means no changes. Things just keep chugging along like they always did because everyone is comfortable. In most industries, getting new blood, sometimes even from within the industry, but from another company or from a different area can make vast improvements. Simple giving promotions to the next person on the seniority ladder often isn't best for the company.
You, of course, have the added disadvantage of political oversight, often closer to political interference.
 

Serryah

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You also have much the same problem every government agency does.

And that is?

Most of the management worked their way up.

Okay but... not really? I don't know if you're referring to health care overall or just specifically one place, but that's not how management at least in our Corporation works.

The Peter Principle come s to mind. Sometimes this is fair for workers, sometimes not. From a management perspective, no new blood means no changes.

Except in our situation, there is a constant 'new blood' influx. You might be shocked at the turnover rate in some places and not just for 'workers'.

Things just keep chugging along like they always did because everyone is comfortable.

Yeah no, not health care, sorry. And the irony is, I was discussing this with our site supervisor just the other day.


In most industries, getting new blood, sometimes even from within the industry, but from another company or from a different area can make vast improvements.

Not if management and other "leaderships" don't give a damn, or don't want to deviate from what they think is 'best practice' and so on.

Simple giving promotions to the next person on the seniority ladder often isn't best for the company.

Well in our case, "promotions" don't happen at all unless you take a different discipline, like going from clerking to LPN or RN for example, so...

You, of course, have the added disadvantage of political oversight, often closer to political interference.

Oh that much absolutely is true. Higgs did exactly that last year(? or year before, can't remember) when he fired the CEO because he didn't like that the man stood up to things Higgs was planning to do, because it wouldn't be good for the public. (in a nutshell, was a bit more than that of course). Or when he got rid of the Minister of Health because the backlash she and the Government got for planning to shut down 6 hospitals just before Covid was so bad they reversed the decision (which turned out to be a blessing)
 

Ron in Regina

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After a few days of back-and-forth proposals, the apparent progress to end a strike by 55,000 workers at Canada Post seems to have ground to a halt.

By midday Monday, neither side would confirm whether the Canadian Union of Postal Workers had officially responded to the company's latest offer sent on Friday through a federally appointed mediator. The strike is now in its fifth week.

Instead, the two sides traded shots through the media over the weekend, with union negotiator Jim Gallant saying CUPW was "extremely disappointed" at the latest proposal, and the company chiding the union for speaking publicly rather than through the mediator.

It could be a sign, labour relations experts say, of internal divisions at the union of how to respond to the company's attempts to restructure how it operates. Link, etc….
 

petros

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After a few days of back-and-forth proposals, the apparent progress to end a strike by 55,000 workers at Canada Post seems to have ground to a halt.

By midday Monday, neither side would confirm whether the Canadian Union of Postal Workers had officially responded to the company's latest offer sent on Friday through a federally appointed mediator. The strike is now in its fifth week.

Instead, the two sides traded shots through the media over the weekend, with union negotiator Jim Gallant saying CUPW was "extremely disappointed" at the latest proposal, and the company chiding the union for speaking publicly rather than through the mediator.

It could be a sign, labour relations experts say, of internal divisions at the union of how to respond to the company's attempts to restructure how it operates. Link, etc….
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Retired_Can_Soldier

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Now that they already fucked small businesses right in the ass at their busiest time, the government is sending Can Post back to work.
The Trudeau government is a hero.
Hip Hip Hurray!
 
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petros

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Now that they already fucked small businesses right in the ass at their busiest time, the government is sending Can Post back to work.
The Trudeau government is a hero.
Hip Hip Hurray!
They are going to have hire a pile of temps to clear the backlog.

If I were a non-union supervidor Id be hiring the temps that outperform the permanents and letting the ass draggers fill the new weekend and evening shifts CanadPost wants and needs to survive and compete.
 

Ron in Regina

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I saw that the gov't is asking them to go back to work under the same agreement until May 2025?
Mandated back, so what performance levels do you think they’ll be operating at? 1/2? 1/3? Treating the mail with tender love and care? This is doomed to not end well. The term “going postal” comes from…?
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What will the postal service be in Canada in a decade? Canadian Federal Labour Minister Steven MacKinnon said Friday that he is pausing the Canada Post work stoppage until spring, adding that small businesses who’ve lost revenues over peak holiday shopping season will not be compensated for losses.

“This will make no one happy, who’s at the table,” MacKinnon said at a news conference near Parliament Hill. “But my job is to work for my bosses, or Canadians.”

The labour minister said that there are no plans to compensate small and medium-sized Canadian businesses for losses incurred during the strike.

“The law does not envisage compensation for labour disputes we have,” said MacKinnon.

The Canadian Federation of Independent Businesses estimates that the 29-day strike has cost small Canadian firms a total of $1.6 billion.
 
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bob the dog

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I haven't actually seen the list but am hearing one of the core issues is weekend delivery to compete with other services.

In my area of NW Ontario Fed Ex couriers based in Kenora travel a daily 300 km+ trip to Red Lake and Dryden delivering packages. I assume they are busier lately but in general those trucks will not cover daily expenses. Makes no sense to me to try and compete.

Daily delivery is an issue. I only check the mail when I am expecting a package which could be once a month.

I'd personally like to see management take over delivery rather than force workers back. Getting out of the parcel business may be the best solution in the long run.
 

Ron in Regina

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On the way home from work today, I saw my first Canada Post anything in the last month….& it was about a 3 ton truck in traffic wearing in Canada Post livery. I actually had to do a double take…
 
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