Canada PLANS increased cuts to carbon emissions to 40% by 2030

Tecumsehsbones

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That's part of the overall strategy for sure, economic "persuasion". Clearly, spouting off about the science has fallen on deaf ears for a few decades now.
To be fair, that's part of tax policy. To use economic pressure to encourage desired behavior and discourage undesired behavior.

The fact that it stacks up the loonies in the Treasury is strictly a side bennie.
 
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90% of Canada's population lives within 150 miles of the US border, so the talking point of northern populations being so hard done by is just that, a talking point. As is the oft heard lament that we will have to live without all the uses of fossil fuels that do not involve burning the stuff and thus do not make a huge contribution to GHG emissions. Our biggest obstacle to progress in this area is people who resist change even in the face of irreparable harm. What can you do ? Hell, lots of people still smoke cigarettes at $15 a pack.
The fact that China increases emissions every year by more than Canada's total emissions doesn't show in your calculations.
 

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You do what's right because it's right, not because it's popular.
Where do you stand here (?) with respect to right vs popular?

In Canada, we are geographically isolated from the rest of the planet with the exception of the USA (which is a combination of our largest trade partner and competitor in trade, and is 10 times the size of us population wise), so we HAVE to be competitive with them in trade without creating artificial trade hurdles for ourselves.

Where is the USA on the Carbon Tax front at this point with respect to having a level playing field (or even a sleight advantage to help compensate for the population difference) with our largest trade partner? We kind of have to March in step with America or we snuff ourselves out and become an economic basket case.
 
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Where do you stand here (?) with respect to right vs popular?

Generally prefer "right."
In Canada, we are geographically isolated from the rest of the planet with the exception of the USA (which is a combination of our largest trade partner and competitor in trade, and is 10 times the size of us population wise), so we HAVE to be competitive with them in trade without creating artificial trade hurdles for ourselves.

Where is the USA on the Carbon Tax front at this point with respect to having a level playing field (or even a sleight advantage to help compensate for the population difference) with our largest trade partner? We kind of have to March in step with America or we snuff ourselves out and become an economic basket case.
All important considerations. Maybe you should elect somebody smart. We did (from the two available choices).
 

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If we force them to live there , which we pretty much do with the Indian Act we must give them reasonable living conditions and employment opportunities. As for pharma and daycare , the feds can easily afford it , they will simply pass a bill forcing the provinces to fund them .
Which is why I'm no fan of the Indian Act either. It needs to be scrapped!!
 

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The fact that China increases emissions every year by more than Canada's total emissions doesn't show in your calculations.
The issue is that you need to have something in place BEFORE you enact a policy that majorly changes how your country works. That's not what's happening and why it's a terrible policy!! In 2030 if all O&G is not allowed, we will become N. Korea - dark in all places because we'll not have the "green" energy to supplant O&G so we'll encounter blackouts on a regular basis and extreme cold in winter where a lot of people will die because they can't afford to heat their homes/dwellings. So, lets just see what's going to happen because of terrible policies that are coming or are now in place down the pipe. It's not looking good. Besides, how will computers, phones, desks, appliances, clothing etc. be built? What material will be replacing the O&G used currently to manufacture these items?
 

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But will Trudeau and his comrades allow it?
Yup. Japanese and German automakers are going hydrogen.

Don't tell anyone though, it's a secret.

 
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The issue is that you need to have something in place BEFORE you enact a policy that majorly changes how your country works. That's not what's happening and why it's a terrible policy!! In 2030 if all O&G is not allowed, we will become N. Korea - dark in all places because we'll not have the "green" energy to supplant O&G so we'll encounter blackouts on a regular basis and extreme cold in winter where a lot of people will die because they can't afford to heat their homes/dwellings. So, lets just see what's going to happen because of terrible policies that are coming or are now in place down the pipe. It's not looking good. Besides, how will computers, phones, desks, appliances, clothing etc. be built? What material will be replacing the O&G used currently to manufacture these items?
Oil from third world dicktatorships. This is the club turdOWE so desperately wants to join.
 

Ron in Regina

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I know the supply chain for oil & refining is complex….but in my case, not so much.

I live in Regina where we have a Co-op Heavy Oil Upgrader, & I stopped at a Co-op that gets its refined gasoline from the Upgrader locally…& I still had a 1/4 tank.
 
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