Canada may or may not have hit its long-awaited electric vehicle turning point

[mentalfloss]

Rebates, $24K in savings, less shit in the air.

It's all the same.

Electric vehicles save Canadian drivers thousands of dollars despite higher price tag: study​

A new report reveals electric vehicles come with big savings, especially with the current cost of fuel.

Clean Energy Canada, a research group at the Centre for Dialogue at Simon Fraser University, released its report The True Cost earlier this week.

It compared six popular electric car models with the ownership costs of gas-powered equivalents. It estimated the comparative costs over eight years for someone who drives 20,000 kilometres per year and pays $1.35 per litre for fuel.

“What we found is that in every comparison we made, the electric car comes out cheaper than the gas alternative,” said Mark Zacharias, a special advisor with the group.

Now that gas is sitting close to $2 a litre, Zacharias estimates savings would jump as high as $24,000.

Electric vehicles bring savings for drivers, especially amid high gas prices: study | CTV News

 

[harrylee]

Got yours ordered yet?

 

[pgs]

Got yours ordered yet?

He likes his Toyota .

 

[petros]

'Nation-building' investments in electricity grid needed to reach net-zero: experts​

Amanda Stephenson - The Canadian Press


Posted: April 05, 2022
Last Updated: April 05,

A price tag in the tens or hundreds of billions of dollars, and a project scope akin to that of the construction of the Canadian Pacific Railway in the 1800s.

That's the scale of the massive investment in Canada's electricity grid that experts say will be required in the near future, as the phase-out of fossil fuel-fired power generation combined with a rapid increase in demand for electricity puts never-before-seen demands on Canada's electrical grid.

"The general consensus is that we will need to double or triple the size of our electricity system between now and 2050," said Bruce Lourie, chair of the non-profit advisory organization The Transition Accelerator.

prepared for how monumental a task this is ahead of us."

The federal government, in its emissions reduction plan released last week, describes the need for "nation building" interprovincial transmission lines if Canada is to have a shot at meeting its climate target of cutting emissions by 40 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030, and net-zero emissions by 2050.

Canada already has one of the cleanest electricity grids in the world, with over 80 per cent produced by non-emitting sources. But in order to slow the pace of climate change, electrifying more activities — everything from vehicles to heating and cooling buildings to various industrial processes — will be required. And not only will the country need more electricity, but more of it will need to come from non-emitting sources.

One way to do that would be to build new transmission lines that could move renewable power from jurisdictions like Quebec, Manitoba, and British Columbia — which have vast supplies of clean hydropower — to jurisdictions like Alberta, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Saskatchewan, which are all still reliant on fossil fuels for electricity generation.

But it's not a straightforward task. In Canada, electricity falls under provincial jurisdiction, and each province's system has developed independently from the rest.

Alberta, for example, has a fully deregulated electricity market, while electricity in neighbouring B.C. is produced and sold by a Crown corporation.

"The provinces, Crown corporations, and electric utilities would all have to agree on this," Lourie said. "At the end of the day, politicians are going to have to sit down and sort this stuff out."

 

[mentalfloss]

Got yours ordered yet?

In a few years, I'll be ready to go.

Autographs are at 3 in case you're interested.

 

[harrylee]

In a few years, I'll be ready to go.

Autographs are at 3 in case you're interested.

Your government says you need it NOW.

 

[mentalfloss]

Your government says you need it NOW.

Bruh

 

[Ron in Regina]

Your government says you need it NOW.

Our government needs to be in the financial position (outside of a metropolitan area of Vancouver Montreal Toronto Ottawa) with being able to afford to buy & plate & insure & maintain ONE vehicle that has to fit ALL their needs… in a geographically spread out nation (that is Canada outside of those select metropolitan areas) through a Canadian winter in an EV.

 

[petros]

Our government needs to be in the financial position (outside of a metropolitan area of Vancouver Montreal Toronto Ottawa) with being able to afford to buy & plate & insure & maintain ONE vehicle that has to fit ALL their needs… in a geographically spread out nation (that is Canada outside of those select metropolitan areas) through a Canadian winter in an EV.

A roadside emergency charge truck fleet could be very lucrative.

 

[Ron in Regina]

A roadside emergency charge truck fleet could be very lucrative.

Solar panels or diesel generators? Maybe some portable windmills? I think a stationary bike hooked up to a small generator that could be dropped off roadside to recharge an EV would be interesting in SK on New Years Day.

 

[petros]

Solar panels or diesel generators? Maybe some portable windmills? I think a stationary bike hooked up to a small generator that could be dropped off roadside to recharge an EV would be interesting in SK on New Years Day.

LNG generators until hydrogen cells come available.

 

[taxslave]

It's the same rebate just relabelled

But the gullible swallowed the party line. Hook, line, and stinker.

 

[taxslave]

In a few years, I'll be ready to go.

Autographs are at 3 in case you're interested.

Why the wait. We have a PHEV ordered. Should work for the wife's current driving. We still have two trucks for when we want to go someplace.

 

[taxslave]

Rebates, $24K in savings, less shit in the air.

It's all the same.

Electric vehicles save Canadian drivers thousands of dollars despite higher price tag: study​

A new report reveals electric vehicles come with big savings, especially with the current cost of fuel.

Clean Energy Canada, a research group at the Centre for Dialogue at Simon Fraser University, released its report The True Cost earlier this week.

It compared six popular electric car models with the ownership costs of gas-powered equivalents. It estimated the comparative costs over eight years for someone who drives 20,000 kilometres per year and pays $1.35 per litre for fuel.

“What we found is that in every comparison we made, the electric car comes out cheaper than the gas alternative,” said Mark Zacharias, a special advisor with the group.

Now that gas is sitting close to $2 a litre, Zacharias estimates savings would jump as high as $24,000.

Electric vehicles bring savings for drivers, especially amid high gas prices: study | CTV News

Even at $2.00 for fuel it takes many years of driving to make up the difference in purchase price and interest on that higher cost vehicle.

 

[taxslave]

'Nation-building' investments in electricity grid needed to reach net-zero: experts​

Amanda Stephenson - The Canadian Press


Posted: April 05, 2022
Last Updated: April 05,

A price tag in the tens or hundreds of billions of dollars, and a project scope akin to that of the construction of the Canadian Pacific Railway in the 1800s.

That's the scale of the massive investment in Canada's electricity grid that experts say will be required in the near future, as the phase-out of fossil fuel-fired power generation combined with a rapid increase in demand for electricity puts never-before-seen demands on Canada's electrical grid.

"The general consensus is that we will need to double or triple the size of our electricity system between now and 2050," said Bruce Lourie, chair of the non-profit advisory organization The Transition Accelerator.

prepared for how monumental a task this is ahead of us."

The federal government, in its emissions reduction plan released last week, describes the need for "nation building" interprovincial transmission lines if Canada is to have a shot at meeting its climate target of cutting emissions by 40 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030, and net-zero emissions by 2050.

Canada already has one of the cleanest electricity grids in the world, with over 80 per cent produced by non-emitting sources. But in order to slow the pace of climate change, electrifying more activities — everything from vehicles to heating and cooling buildings to various industrial processes — will be required. And not only will the country need more electricity, but more of it will need to come from non-emitting sources.

One way to do that would be to build new transmission lines that could move renewable power from jurisdictions like Quebec, Manitoba, and British Columbia — which have vast supplies of clean hydropower — to jurisdictions like Alberta, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Saskatchewan, which are all still reliant on fossil fuels for electricity generation.

But it's not a straightforward task. In Canada, electricity falls under provincial jurisdiction, and each province's system has developed independently from the rest.

Alberta, for example, has a fully deregulated electricity market, while electricity in neighbouring B.C. is produced and sold by a Crown corporation.

"The provinces, Crown corporations, and electric utilities would all have to agree on this," Lourie said. "At the end of the day, politicians are going to have to sit down and sort this stuff out."

Politicians don't understand fundamentals of power generation like line loss. In BC it takes one full generating station to provide just for line loss in the province.