Canada-China Crisis

spilledthebeer

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Rather than a crisis I would say this is an opportunity.

We can use this whole episode to shine a light on this abusive and corrupt regime.

**** the money. We don't need that kind of money.

We will be fine with or without Chinese trade.




OH HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Such a FINE DISPLAY OF LIE-beral SLIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I guess you have forgotten.......................


Back in the day when LIE-beral Chretien was boasting of his stupid Team Canada propaganda trips to China.............


and LIE-berals were SNEERING at Conservative Cold Warriors for warning that Chinese Dictators could NOT BE TRUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And now here you are telling us we "will be fine without Chinese trade"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gosh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ARE THERE ANY RATS LEFT on the sinking LIE-beral ship????????????????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

EagleSmack

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This "crisis" was created triggered by the AMERICAN request. The US is a big part of this mess. China is lashing out at CDA........for reasons of their own. One thing is certain. CDA makes a soft and easy target.

Is this what CDA gets for helping the US?? Of course. The last two years the Trump US has shwon it has no use for its allies and neighbors. The only ones trump cares about are Kim, Putin and the Saudi murderer in Prince.




Face it Breezy... Canada is not as loved around the world as you've told yourselves for decades. As I've said... it is a myth.
 

spilledthebeer

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"There's a level of admiration I actually have for China. Their basic dictatorship is actually allowing them to turn their economy around on a dime."-JT.

Apparently that's not all China can turn around on a dime. Not having to worry about inconveniences like ethics, trade standards, and rule of law, China is free to treat Trudeau, and Canada any way it damn well feels like. Lil' potato would be wise take note and learn his lesson....rule of law and ethics is pretty important when you're on the receiving end of the crap.

I wonder how much admiration Trudeau has for their basic dictatorship now?




Pierre Trudeau wrote a book called "Two Innocents in Red China" - about his travels in that country with a friend in the 1950`s...........


IN that book Pierre heaped fawning praise on Chinese Chairman Mao for -as Pierre described it - "his genius in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nothing quite says SOVIET ASSHOLE quite like blanket approval of MASS MURDER.........dont you think????????????????


And the book was re-published with a new introduction by Sacha Trudope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With NO acknowledgement of the mass murder referred to in the books pages!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Subsequently Our idiot Boy was elected Prime Minister................and told us "he likes the way the Chinese get things done"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


With NO acknowledgement of the MASS MURDER Pierre praised in his reprinted book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We have as leader of our country a SOVIET LOVING ASSHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Also - let's have a look at what the Americans have on this person.

It seems to be forgotten that at the core of this issue is her guilt or innocence.




POOR STUPID HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You are clearly losing it..................getting more ABSURD as you grow more DESPERATE at the erosion of LIE-beral fortunes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Canada DOES NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES to determine Mengs innocence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And WE HAVE SIGNED that extradition treaty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


MENG has NOT broken any Cdn law since our anti Yankee and white hating LIE-beral overlords are so determined to kiss up to Iranian Mullahs they refuse to condemn the apparent Huawei violation of UNITED NATIONS Sanctions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Meng is accused of breaking Yankee law!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Therefore - to honour our extradition treaty the BEST THING we can do is send Meng off to Washington on a FAST PLANE!!!!!!!


WE NEED to get rid of Meng BEFORE Our idiot Boy finds an excuse to release her and send her off with $10.5 million dollars for her "inconvenience"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

petros

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Another devastating blow to Western Canada, the worlds single largest producer of canola in the world. This on top of new carbon taxes, decreasing potash demand, decreasing uranium demand, and systematic destruction of the natural resource industry by enviro-zealots and our Government. Wonder what laws or ethical values Trudeau is considering to break in order to save Western Canadian jobs.
A study released in 2017 shows Canadian-grown canola contributes $26.7 billion to the Canadian economy each year, including more than 250,000 Canadian jobs and $11.2 billion in wages.
https://www.saskcanola.com/industry/
I see it as a good thing. Too many hectares are being seeded in canola and it was over saturation of the market. There are other high dollar options like soybeans in short supply and high demand.
 

spilledthebeer

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I see it as a good thing. Too many hectares are being seeded in canola and it was over saturation of the market. There are other high dollar options like soybeans in short supply and high demand.


Cannola brings $26 billion dollars per year into the Cdn economy......................


and you want to WHINE about over saturation???????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the ALLEGED over saturation is being politically motivated because China is PISSED about being caught violating United Nations sanctions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Our idiot Boy Justin has made known his fondness for the third world despots who infest U.N. committees so surely Cdn SUPPORT of the Sanctions against Iranian nuclear nutbars IS A GOOD THING????????????????????



The BIGGEST problem facing LIE-berals today is finding something to say about any subject that does NOT make them look even more corrupt and selfish and muddled than they already are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

NZDoug

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China - Canada CRISIS????????????????????


WHAT????????????????????????????


Are Cdns being refused service at local Chinese food restaurants????????????????????????????
The ONLY CRISIS here is the one involving LIE-berals who DO NOT WANT the Justin Trudope love affair with Soviet Socialist ideology to become known to all Cdns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE ENTIRE TRUDOPE CLAN has a HUGELY UNHEALTHY AFFECTION FOR ALL THINGS SOVIET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But DONT WORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Chinese Crisis will blow over just as soon as Our idiot Boy discovers that Huawei CEO Meng is SUING CANADA - claiming that her CANADIAN CIVIL RIGHTS were VIOLATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Our idiot Boy will give her $10.5 million dollars and send her on her way with our "sincere: apologies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crisis AVERTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With that in mind let us have a look at the thoughts of Sacha Trudeau- who has explained in GREAT DETAIL -the friendship between the Trudope clan and bloody handed Soviet dictator Castro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For those who don’t believe that the Trudeau`s-father and sons were and are raving socialist revolutionaries who want to destroy conventional `imperialist` Canada- which the younger generation calls “ white privilege” - I supply here a letter written by Sacha Trudeau-the brother of our prime minister that Boy with nice hair-for Brains.
Sacha wrote his `love letter to his old pal-the bloody handed communist Cuban leader Castro and it was printed (with serious intent and straight face yet!) by the Toronto (Red) Star newspaper. The Sacha letter was such a gag inducing/lose your lunch at the hypocrisy type document that the National Post picked it up and lampooned it with wonderful sarcasm!
I here present Sacha's love letter to hard line communist Castro as printed in the
National Post: 
The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 rid the world of a political system that slaughtered tens of millions in purges, and sentenced hundreds of millions more to economic slavery. Less consequentially, communism's demise also spared the world of arts and letters one of the most appalling literary tropes known to history: the mythic communist hagiography.
If you've ever traveled to a communist nation, or read its official histories, you will know they run something like this: Great Leader was born a poor villager in the country's heartland. At the age of four, he single-handedly killed a pack of wolves that threatened his town. At the age of eight, he invented a new kind of rifle. At the age of 12, he heroically denounced his own parents as counter revolutionaries. A prodigious autodidact, Great Leader became an expert in every subject -- agriculture, warfare, economics -- and tirelessly applied his intellect to advance the glorious revolution. And so on.
Since the fall of the Berlin Wall, this messianic propaganda style has survived in just two places -- North Korea and Cuba. Or so I thought, until I woke up on Sunday and spotted a museum-quality specimen devoted to Fidel Castro on the pages of the Toronto Star. Had I seen it in The Onion, I would have thought it a fine parody. But the persistently earnest author -- none other than Alexandre ("Sacha") Trudeau -- apparently meant every word.
The legacy of Castro is well-summarized in a recent report by Human Rights Watch: "Cuba remains a Latin American anomaly: an undemocratic government that represses nearly all forms of political dissent. President Fidel Castro, now in his 47th year in power ... continues to enforce political conformity using criminal prosecutions, long- and short-term detentions [and] mob harassment ... The end result is that Cubans are systematically denied basic rights to free expression, association, assembly, privacy, movement, and due process of law."
But those sticks-in-the-mud at Human Rights Watch apparently don't know the real Fidel. Writing on August 13, Castro's 80th birthday, Sacha lovingly described the kindly attentions Cuba's leader once lavished on his late brother Michel, whom the despot nicknamed "Micha-Miche." When Michael was eight years old, we learn, he complained to his mother that he had fewer friends than his brothers. Reports Sacha: "My mother told him that, unlike us, he had the greatest friend of all: He had Fidel."
Such soothing words. Would that we all had a communist tyrant to call our pal.
Sacha's article is full of this sort of maudlin recollection, so much so that one is reminded of the purple love letters Nikolai Bukharin wrote to Stalin from prison in the (vain) hope of winning his freedom. The main difference is that Sacha doesn't have the excuse of imprisonment. He wrote his ode to Cuba's prison-keeper from a nation whose people enjoy freedoms that Cubans can scarcely imagine.
Space forbids a full recitation of Sacha's jaw-droppers, but here are some highlights.
Cuba's Great Leader, we are told, "lives to learn and put his knowledge in the service of the revolution." He is "famous for not sleeping, instead spending the night studying and learning." "His intellect is one of the most broad and complete that can be found." Moreover, Fidel is "a great adventurer," "a great scientific mind," "the most curious man I have ever met," "an expert on genetics, on automobile combustion engines, on stock markets, on everything," not to mention the world's "most audacious and brilliant" leader.
Or, to put it more succinctly, "He is something of a superman" -- a description Sacha justifies with a comic-book propaganda story in which the fat dictator dives 20 metres down into the ocean (without scuba gear!) to collect sea urchins for the Trudeau family's delectation.
Only when we get to the 18th paragraph does Sacha interrupt his sensuous rhapsodies to admit that Cubans "do occasionally complain." But such complaints are akin to "an adolescent [who] might complain about a too strict and demanding father."
In other words, Fidel's single flaw is that he loves too much.
If this were all there were to Sacha's article, then it would merely constitute the unintentionally comic ramblings of a son who still believes the Cuban agitprop passed on to him from his departed daddy -- nonsense that even most Cubans stopped believing decades ago. But his Star essay went beyond that, into something much creepier.
I am thinking in particular of these two lines:
z "Fidel may seem an anachronism: a visionary statesman in a world where his kind have long since been replaced by mere managers, a 20th-century icon still present in the 21st century."
z "With the possible exception of Nelson Mandela, already well into retirement, Fidel is the last of the global patriarchs. Reason, revolution and virtue are becoming more and more distant and abstract concepts." (My emphasis in both cases.)
Since the 1980s, Latin America has undergone a stunning transformation. In the time of Pierre Elliott Trudeau, autocratic police states were the norm, democracy the exception. Now it is the opposite, and only Cuba and Venezuela stand as blots on an otherwise democratic landscape. It is one of the most inspiring political transformations of our time. Yet to Sacha, all of these freely elected leaders are "mere managers." For they lack the "machismo and vigour" that can only emanate from a "revolutionary" regime -- which is to say, a community tyranny.
Throughout the 20th century, there were many other ideologues who preferred "reason, revolution and virtue" to the boring give-and-take of democratic politics and due process. Their ranks included not only murdering despots such as Lenin, Mao and Castro himself, but also starry-eyed fellow travellers and apologists such as Sartre, Fanon and Trudeau pere. Thankfully, the failure of the Soviet experiment has driven both tribes into history's dustbin.
Sacha is a rare exception. Yet from the casual way he throws out his nauseating obsequies, he doesn't appear to understand just how historically discredited his message has become. He is more than naive -- he is ignorant.
The saddest part of it is that Sacha is not an insubstantial intellect: In recent years, he has become a respected journalist, civil libertarian and activist. But there are limits to what even an accomplished person may say and still be taken seriously. What Sacha has written here is so ludicrous that it puts into question everything he's said or will say. Now that he's written this glowing tribute to a dictator with blood on his hands, for instance, why should we believe his repeated claims that this or that Arab terrorism suspect is innocent? Why should we believe his reporting from Iraq, for that matter? If the romantic glory of "revolution" is all that matters in Sacha's political universe, surely jihadis are "supermen," too, no?
Sacha is still a young man -- perhaps young enough to rebound from this blunder if he's more careful with his words. But for that to happen, the naive affection for Fidel bequeathed to him by his father should become the love that dare not speak its name.
jkay@nationalpost.com
- Jonathan Kay is Managing Editor for Comment at the National Post.
SACHA TRUDEAU ON FIDEL CASTRO
'Fidel is the most curious man that I have ever met. He wants to know all there is to be known. He is famous for not sleeping, instead spending the night studying and learning.'
'His intellect is one of the most broad that can be found. He is an expert on genetics, on automobile combustion engines, on stock markets. On everything.'
'Combined with a Herculean physique and extraordinary courage, this monumental intellect makes Fidel the giant that he is.'
HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH ON FIDEL CASTRO
'Cuba remains a Latin American anomaly: an undemocratic government that represses nearly all forms of political dissent.'
'President Fidel Castro, now in his 47th year in power ... continues to enforce political conformity using criminal prosecutions, detentions [and] mob harassment'
'Cubans are systematically denied basic rights to free expression, association, assembly, privacy, movement, and due process of law'
Tools
Toughen’ up, mate.
The founder of the Chinese telecom colossus Huawei says the arrest of his daughter on fraud charges brought by the U.S. will be good for her because she hasn’t faced enough hardship in life. “These difficulties will make her stronger and prepare her for even greater things ahead. So I’ll let her face what she is facing,” Ren Zhengfei told CNBC. Meng Wanzhou, who is chief financial officer of Huawei, is under house arrest in Canada, awaiting likely extradition to the U.S. on charges she helped evade sanctions on Iran—allegations she denies. “I think my children have grown up without experiencing much hardship. Struggling a bit can be good for them,” her father said. “Cuts and bruises toughen her up, and even since ancient times, heroes were born of hardship. I think this challenge will be good for my daughter.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/huawe...er-meng-wanzhou-will-be-good-for-her?ref=home
 

NZDoug

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Britain seeing the light.
The United Kingdom has decided to allow Huawei’s 5G equipment into its national rollouts to a degree—the gear is banned from core parts of the British communications network, where it could pose a particularly acute spying risk.
The move is another blow to the United States’s campaign to pressure its allies into shunning Huawei’s 5G equipment. The campaign seems to have proven particularly unsuccessful in Europe, where both Germany and Poland have also declined to block Huawei-based deployments. In Southeast Asia, too, Huawei equipment will be used in 5G rollouts in countries such as Thailand and Malaysia.
The U.S. has since late last year been on something of an anti-Huawei crusade, with the main rationale being fears over Chinese state spying—China has a law requiring companies to support its intelligence work, and Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei once worked as a tech researcher for the People’s Liberation Army. Huawei denies it poses any such risk.
more
http://fortune.com/2019/04/24/us-huawei-ban-uk/?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
 

spilledthebeer

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Britain seeing the light.
The United Kingdom has decided to allow Huawei’s 5G equipment into its national rollouts to a degree—the gear is banned from core parts of the British communications network, where it could pose a particularly acute spying risk.
The move is another blow to the United States’s campaign to pressure its allies into shunning Huawei’s 5G equipment. The campaign seems to have proven particularly unsuccessful in Europe, where both Germany and Poland have also declined to block Huawei-based deployments. In Southeast Asia, too, Huawei equipment will be used in 5G rollouts in countries such as Thailand and Malaysia.
The U.S. has since late last year been on something of an anti-Huawei crusade, with the main rationale being fears over Chinese state spying—China has a law requiring companies to support its intelligence work, and Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei once worked as a tech researcher for the People’s Liberation Army. Huawei denies it poses any such risk.
more
http://fortune.com/2019/04/24/us-huawei-ban-uk/?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral






YEAH...................the QUISLINGS are surrendering to the Peoples Liberation Army!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lets hope they dont come to regret it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Otherwise United States may end up facing a Soviet United Europe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And all the good little European Quilsings will be forced to line up and pay for Chinese Soviet RE-education!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the world will then be divided into three major camps constantly fighting just like in Orwell`s novel 1984!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And who really wants to go back to a modern version of the COLD WAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


There should be NO real cooperation with China until the Huawei violation of United Nations sanctions is resolved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nor should we look the other way while China violates the rights of FIVE other nations in the South China Sea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just because it is called South China Sea DOES NOT MEAN it all belongs to China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In the same way that the English Channel DOES NOT belong exclusively to England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Scheer to demand Canada pull funds from Chinese multilateral development bank


A message must be sent, where's Freeland and her twitterpodium?


Freeland is too busy trying to reassure the Soviet asshats that Scheer was just kidding around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Besides............................


she has a BIG PILE of Filipino garbage to haul off a dock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She has no time for Scheer`s ideas about honestly asserting Cdn sovereignty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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Possibility of soybeans, pork and peas facing delays getting to China 'very concerning,' says Sask. premier

China sentences second Canadian to death




So Scheer is RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We should be pulling Cdn money back out of Chinese banks and etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Chinese Communist BULLIES make it clear they will continue to punish us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because we DARED get involved with the arrest of Huawei CEO....................................


simply because China feels ENTITLED to support the radical Muslim LOONS in Iran!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!