Canada 51st State

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Trump says ’highly unlikely’ U.S. ever uses military force to annex Canada
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Nick Murray
Published May 04, 2025 • Last updated 9 hours ago • 3 minute read

OTTAWA — U.S. President Donald Trump says it is “highly unlikely” the United States would ever use military force to annex Canada, though he maintains he will continue to push to make Canada the 51st state.


In a wide-ranging interview on NBC’s “Meet The Press” which aired Sunday, Trump said he wouldn’t rule out military force against Greenland, but he didn’t see it happening with Canada.

“I think we’re not going to ever get to that point,” Trump said.

“Something could happen with Greenland. I’ll be honest, we need that for national and international security.”

“But I think it’s highly unlikely … I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it, I have to be honest with you.”

Trump’s remarks come as Prime Minister Mark Carney is set to have his first face-to-face meeting with the president this week in Washington, in which the countries’ trade war will be the top topic of conversation.

On Sunday, Trump called Carney “a very nice man” and that he congratulated the prime minister on his election victory during their call last week.

“There’s no majority or anything, so that’s going to make things a little bit difficult, I think, for him to run,” Trump.


“But he nevertheless had a victory and he’s a very nice man, I think.”

The Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement on trade, called CUSMA, was negotiated during the first Trump administration. At the time Trump called it the best deal ever, and Canadian officials declared it a victory for Canada.

CUSMA is up for review next year, but after Trump’s return to the White House it quickly became clear the president intended to rattle the continental trade pact.

Canada and Mexico were hit early with tariffs the president linked to the flow of fentanyl and people across the borders. U.S. government data shows a tiny volume of fentanyl is intercepted at the U.S.-Canada border. Both countries were also hit by Trump’s steel, aluminum and automobile duties.

Speaking with reporters in Ottawa on Friday, Carney said he would be working to get the best deal for Canada.


Asked by “Meet the Press” host Kristen Welker whether Trump will talk to Carney about becoming the 51st state, Trump replied he’ll “always talk about that.”

“You know why? We subsidize Canada to the tune of $200 billion a year,” Trump said. In fact, the United States’ trade deficit with Canada was $63.3 billion in 2024, according to the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative.

The U.S. imported $412.7 billion of Canadian goods in 2024, most of which being energy and minerals.

“We don’t need their cars, we don’t need their lumber, we don’t need their energy, we don’t need anything. We do very little business with Canada. They do all of their business practically with us,” Trump said.

According to data from the U.S. Census Bureau, the U.S. imported more goods from Mexico and China than it did from Canada in 2024.

Canada represented 12.6 per cent of all U.S. imports. By contrast, Canada exported 75.9 per cent of its goods to the U.S.

“We don’t need their cars. In fact, we don’t want their cars. We don’t need their energy. We don’t even want their energy. We have more than they do,” Trump said.

“We don’t want their lumber. We have great lumber. All they have to do is free it up from the environmental lunatics. We don’t need anything that they have.”
Well no shit Sherlock .
 

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????? Now that Carney is PM?????
U.S. Ambassador to Canada Pete Hoekstra says the president has put the issue of Canada becoming a state “behind us.” ???
I feel much better now. So when does Carney announce the:

A) $200+B for the Canadian Navy to expand the fleet for the North West Passage and Arctic

Or

B) A lease for the US to build a base the patrol and guard the Arctic and NWP.

One or the other is coming. Maybe both.
 

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Today is only Thursday. Trump throwing around that 51st state thing, was still happening Monday, I believe. All the days went together, but I think it was Monday that they met in the Oval Office.
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Trump dangles Golden Dome freebie to Canada with catch of 51st state
Author of the article:postmedia News
Published May 28, 2025 • Last updated 1 day ago • 2 minute read

A golden opportunity awaits Canada if it becomes the 51st state, according to U.S. President Donald Trump.


After he last week detailed his ambitious idea to build a shield to protect the U.S. from threats including ballistic missiles, hypersonics and advanced cruise missiles, Trump on Tuesday night said the system would cost Canada US$61 billion — before he added his special offer to Canucks.

“I told Canada, which very much wants to be part of our fabulous Golden Dome System, that it will cost $61 Billion Dollars if they remain a separate, but unequal, Nation, but will cost ZERO DOLLARS if they become our cherished 51st State. They are considering the offer!” read a post on Trump’s Truth Social account.

Post from U.S. President Donald Trump's Truth Social app. SCREENGRAB
Post from U.S. President Donald Trump’s Truth Social app. SCREENGRAB
The president has said the project would cost $175 billion overall. Congress, meanwhile, is seeking $25 billion to begin work on the endeavour.


However, the Congressional Budget Office found the U.S. may have to spend as much as $542 billion over 20 years to fully develop and launch the space-based interceptors.

Prime Minister Mark Carney last week confirmed that Canada was considering joining the U.S. on the project. At the time, he declined to place a price tag on it and said the talks were at an early stage.

The traditionally close ties between Canada and the U.S. have been tested by Trump, who has launched a trade war and regularly called for Canada to become the 51st state.

Carney is adamant that Canada will remain a sovereign nation.

“The prime minister has been clear at every opportunity, including in his conversations with President Trump, that Canada is an independent, sovereign nation, and it will remain one,” the Prime Minister’s Office said in a statement to CTV News.



Canada and the U.S. have had a joint air defence system since the 1950s, known as the North American Aerospace Defense Command, or Norad.

The technology for Trump’s dome plan is unproven, particularly using space-based interceptors to knock down incoming ballistic missiles.

The president’s Truth Social post came shortly after King Charles gave the speech from the throne to open Parliament in which he reiterated Canada’s sovereignty, saying, “The true north is indeed strong and free.”

He also spoke on Canada’s relationship with the U.S., saying the countries “have begun defining a new economic and security relationship … to deliver transformational benefits for both sovereign nations.”
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its sad that a turn of the head and bad aim will lead to canadas absorption. :(
 

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You would have preferred the people who drugged their senile cancer laden leader before a debate then undemocratically inserted a new candidate days later?
i was referring to canadas annexation and being terroriffed. :(
 

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Interest in ‘elbows up’ merchandise waning ahead of Canada Day, businesses say
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Natasha Baldin
Published Jun 29, 2025 • 3 minute read

Although business owners say they are selling more Canada-themed products this year leading up to July 1, many have also noted a decline in "elbows up" merchandise sales.

When Rachael Coe decided to launch an “elbows up” merchandise line at her store in Yarmouth, N.S., in March, she said it was an immediate bestseller.


Within a week, Coe said her Timeless Memories shop had already made 400 sales. By the end of the first month, she had sold 2,500 products, ranging from T-shirts to hoodies to car decals.


Demand for items bearing Canada’s rallying cry against U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariffs and annexation threats was so high that Coe launched a website to keep up with the surge.

“It was a response from all over Canada,” she said. “We reached every single province then we started covering worldwide. Our ‘elbows up’ merch went everywhere.”

Many Canadian businesses hopped on the patriotic trend that also saw Ontario Premier Doug Ford wearing a “Canada is not for sale” ball cap ahead of a January meeting with Canada’s premiers and prime minister.


But Coe’s sales started slowing down by May. And despite a slight boost ahead of Canada Day, she said the “elbows up” line is now selling at similar rates to the classic red-and-white merchandise she sells every year around this time.

Although business owners say they are selling more Canada-themed products this year leading up to July 1, many have also noted a decline in “elbows up” merchandise sales.

The rallying cry, initially embraced as a grassroots movement at the height of cross-border trade tensions and Trump’s musings about making Canada the 51st state, has shifted to a more generic expression of Canadian pride amid continued tensions, retailers and experts say. Others note that the phrase “elbows up” has increasingly been used in a partisan context, contributing to the marketing shift.


Stephanie Tomlin, Toronto-based owner of the online business Shop Love Collective, said she saw an explosion in “elbows up” merchandise sales in March, selling as many as 10 or 15 products per day. Similarly, her sales began to stagnate in May.

Leading up to Canada Day, she said she’s selling “quite a bit more” merchandise compared with previous years, but that’s due to interest in Canada-themed products across the board.

“I think the climate in Canada is a little bit more settled after the election and that … we feel like we will never be the 51st state,” Tomlin said, adding that Canadian patriotism is becoming less combative as annexation talks have died down.

Howard Ramos, a professor of sociology at Western University, said “elbows up” became “more partisan than it used to be” when Prime Minister Mark Carney embraced the phrase in his election campaign ads in late March.


“It’s just added to how the expression is dying down as a pan-Canadian claim,” he said. “Now you see on social media, especially from Conservative handles, the use of ‘elbows up’ in a sarcastic way to criticize Mark Carney or Liberal policies.”

Negative online comments about the “elbows up” movement have discouraged Coe from promoting her products on Facebook. But when she’s interacting with customers in her Yarmouth shop, she said the phrase isn’t as divisive.

“It’s not a political term, and it simply means that you’re defending your country, and everyone should be defending our country, just like you would defend (against) a goal in hockey,” Coe said.

Danielle McDonagh, owner of Vernon, B.C.-based Rowantree Clothing, said she stopped promoting her “elbows up” merchandise on a large scale when she noticed the phrase being interpreted as an “anti-Conservative” and “boomer” movement.


For McDonagh, increased concern about the political climate in the United States has also chipped away at the lightheartedness of the “elbows up” movement.

“I think some of the levity is gone for me,” she said.

While sales of her “elbows up” products have dropped by about 90% since hitting 1,000 in the first month, she said she continues to promote the merchandise in small batches at local markets in Vernon.

Business owners say their customers continue to prioritize supporting the Canadian economy, as they are routinely answering questions about where their products are manufactured.

And the push to buy Canadian isn’t just coming from this side of the border. Coe said many American tourists arriving by ferry from Maine also visit her shop in search of Canadian merchandise.
 
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