Calgary dad sentenced to 15-years for 'reign of terror'

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Then instead of spending money on locking the guy up for ever, why not give or spend the money on the family?

I'll take the 1.5 million and only lock the guy up for 15 years instead of 25.
That will help deal with my emotinal scars much better.
Have you had a family member murdered.
 

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Then instead of spending money on locking the guy up for ever, why not give or spend the money on the family?

I find that statement rather ignorant. I already have enough money to survive comfortably, but no amount of money would make me feel one iota better if a loved one of mine was criminally taken from me. I guess there are always a few people that think the almightly dollar will replace anything. How sad someone should think that way! 8O
 

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Nope - It would make you less than informed on the social costs.


The social cost of our self entitled fantasy life living population?
No. I understand the world we live in. and lets not pretend its perfect.

Cause its far from that.
But for your sake will make pretend.
And everyone better pay up to keep the illusion going.

I find that statement rather ignorant. I already have enough money to survive comfortably, but no amount of money would make me feel one iota better if a loved one of mine was criminally taken from me. I guess there are always a few people that think the almightly dollar will replace anything. How sad someone should think that way! 8O


Then you pay for the extended incarceration. Why expect others to foot the bill?
No amount of prison time will give you back your loved ones but hey, if that's what dose it for you.
Blow your fortune on it.
 
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JLM

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Then you pay for the extended incarceration. Why expect others to foot the bill?
No amount of prison time will give you back your loved ones but hey, if that's what dose it for you.
Blow your fortune on it.

Who said anything about a fortune? Who said anything about "others" footing the bill? If we keep him/her confined, we all foot the bill (probably only a few cents a day each) If he's released and kills one of your family do you think someone will be handing over money to you? This may come as a shock to you but there are more important things in life than money. As a matter of fact money can't buy ANY of the really important things in life!
 

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The social cost of our self entitled fantasy life living population?
No. I understand the world we live in. and lets not pretend its perfect.

Cause its far from that.
But for your sake will make pretend.
And everyone better pay up to keep the illusion going.




Then you pay for the extended incarceration. Why expect others to foot the bill?
No amount of prison time will give you back your loved ones but hey, if that's what dose it for you.
Blow your fortune on it.

Then your view of Justice is based upon money. Not values. Perhaps you would then be open to the Muslim way of Blood Money. Yes - no -maybe?
 

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Who said anything about a fortune? Who said anything about "others" footing the bill? If we keep him/her confined, we all foot the bill (probably only a few cents a day each) If he's released and kills one of your family do you think someone will be handing over money to you? This may come as a shock to you but there are more important things in life than money. As a matter of fact money can't buy ANY of the really important things in life!

I have all the most important things money cant buy.
You should give me the money you dont really need.
Im self entitled to it.

Then your view of Justice is based upon money. Not values. Perhaps you would then be open to the Muslim way of Blood Money. Yes - no -maybe?


No.. The Canadian system with a strong priority on rehabilitation & cost efficiency is good.
 

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That's just the problem. Justice can never be served no matter how many years the murderer spends locked up.

The best scenario out of the whole situation is if you can rehabilitate everyone back to being a good and productive citizen.

The family of the victim will forgive and move on or they will not forgive and move on. I agree that if the person is not a threat to society, why should society spend thousands of dollars per year incarcerating them? Impact on the family is irrelevant because everybody handles it differently. I know a guy that had lawn ornaments stolen from his yard a few years ago and has never gotten over it. Should the kids that took them be punished more severely because he is a drama queen?

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http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/news/2...emption-mother-confronts-embraces-sons-killer
 

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The Canadian justice system is based on finding the balance between justice and rehabilitation. I think it's important to remember that. But regardless, I don't think either will be served by 'making sure his sentence isn't harsh', given the crimes he committed. There are appeals and parole systems for a reason. Give him a sentence that gives his daughter some justice, and let him earn his way to early parole via rehabilitation if he can. Being a rehabilitation system doesn't mean we have to let this guy off lighter than other violent rapists, just because he was 'good' enough to keep it in the family.
 

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Some people seem to think it's less harmful to be betrayed by someone you're supposed to be able to trust than it is to be harmed by a complete stranger. Sort of makes one wonder about "warped"
 

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The Canadian justice system is based on finding the balance between justice and rehabilitation. I think it's important to remember that. But regardless, I don't think either will be served by 'making sure his sentence isn't harsh', given the crimes he committed. There are appeals and parole systems for a reason. Give him a sentence that gives his daughter some justice, and let him earn his way to early parole via rehabilitation if he can. Being a rehabilitation system doesn't mean we have to let this guy off lighter than other violent rapists, just because he was 'good' enough to keep it in the family.

That S.O.B. is going to take one hell of a lot of rehabillitating, if it can be done at all, which I doubt. There's an old saying- "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"-:)
 

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That S.O.B. is going to take one hell of a lot of rehabillitating, if it can be done at all, which I doubt. There's an old saying- "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"-:)

Which is exactly why they shouldn't assume rehabilitation. Give a heavy sentence, allow them to shorten it with rehabilitation. That way, if they remain a risk to society, you don't have to let them out in 15 years. I can't imagine how it will impact his daughter to see him free in such a relatively short amount of time, without anything about him necessarily having changed.
 

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Which is exactly why they shouldn't assume rehabilitation. Give a heavy sentence, allow them to shorten it with rehabilitation. That way, if they remain a risk to society, you don't have to let them out in 15 years. I can't imagine how it will impact his daughter to see him free in such a relatively short amount of time, without anything about him necessarily having changed.

Justice definitely has to "trump" rehab, the debt owed is to the victim, the perpetrator is owed absolutely nothing, except possibly an opportunity to do what HE can for HIMSELF.