By Their Fruit

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Re:1:7:
Behold,
he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so,
Amen.
 

Motar

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"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." (Matthew 7:15-20 NIV)

What 'fruit' does Jesus reference?

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law." (Galatians 5:22-23 NIV)
 

Cliffy

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"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law." (Galatians 5:22-23 NIV)
"love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control". Does this kindness include atheists, the LBGT communities, gay marriage, Muslims, racists, rapists, murderers?
 

Motar

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"love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control". Does this kindness include atheists, the LBGT communities, gay marriage, Muslims, racists, rapists, murderers?

Absolutely, Cliffy. Have I been unkind to you?
 

Motar

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You are a rare Christian then because most I've met don't have any tolerance for others. If you don't follow their way, you are going to hell.

"It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.

Land that drinks in the rain often falling on it and that produces a crop useful to those for whom it is farmed receives the blessing of God. But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned." (Hebrews 6:4-8 NIV)

By their fruit you will recognize them, Cliffy.
 

MHz

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You are a rare Christian then because most I've met don't have any tolerance for others. If you don't follow their way, you are going to hell.
Telling a person they are going to hell is God's way of showing you that person is the one going to hell and anything they say past that point should be taken as having the quality in truth of somebody that is already in hell. With those persons you nod and agree and then shake your head no in disbelief at the end of the talk.

You already said 'most' so some might have been giving you good advice and because of you general view of Christians it would have been rejected out of hand. Want to know why?? You are a RAD child plain and simple. In this society each and everyone is a Rad child to some degree or another. So far it is not talked about at all yet it is in the gossip circles all the time.

Reactionary Attachment Disorder is a condition that begins when the person is abused or not kept from danger by the person they trust most. Infants trust parents and that is often where they experience needless neglect and it is a stranger that brings them the relief they deserve. That sets up a pattern where the person who is now the best friend or marriage partner has earned the position of most trusted will eventually do something wrong enough that it is a repeat of the earlier experience as that has become a skeleton in the closet that was never dealt with. That is how it affects a person at home, in the community they trust strangers more than they should to begin with and they let that trust develop at an accelerated rate and at a level that should be earned rather than not as it leads to being taken advantage of. Some people accept that and don't mourn the losses and move on to have it happen endlessly. Being taken advantage of by everyone they meet is better than being alone if they suffer from multiple syndromes.

Since an argument will come up with a RAD child (actually it will be between two RAD children) at some point there are right ways and wrong ways to handle it so it will get better instead of worse. Worse is the argument that never ends and never changes put it becomes a 'loop' really. Somebody has to step away to end that kind of situation. How long depends on the people involved. 1/2 hour to 30 days could be the length of the break for that subject to be on the 'back burner'. It can then be brought up again and a solution worked on. The break is what RAD people need as their first reaction to a request they help somebody else is 'No.' and pushing it past that point gets the loop started again. When the reply come just agree and do not mention it again but move onto a subject you know will get an agreeable reply to. The person who said no needs time to allow for their injuries to filter the request out in full as the first answer was a reaction rather than the conclusion of some reasonable thinking. That will be there at some point in the 1/2hr-30day time period and that is when the topic should be mentioned again.
I'm going to assume the closer two people are the shorter the time gap would be so both would know the time the other person needs to filter your request properly and if that is 2 days then if you want to go dancing on Friday the subject should be brought up Wednesday. The same principle could be used over and over and over with the same positive results and the 'injury' is still there as there is no cure anyway.
 

petros

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"love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control". Does this kindness include atheists, the LBGT communities, gay marriage, Muslims, racists, rapists, murderers?

Are you a gay Muzzie rapist and murderer?