Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico

#juan

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U.S. legislator warns of Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico

WASHINGTON (CP) - A U.S. legislator who backs tough anti-immigrant measures and more security at the Canada-U.S. border is warning Americans that President George W. Bush is plotting to integrate the continent. And he says Prime Minister Stephen Harper "buys into it." Colorado Republican Tom Tancredo, revered by some U.S. conservatives for his efforts to staunch the flow of illegal immigrants from Mexico, said this week that Bush is a dangerous internationalist.
"He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that, it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where the guy is really going," he told WorldNetDaily, a controversial conservative website.
"I know this is dramatic, or maybe somebody would say overly dramatic. But I'm telling you that everything I see leads me to believe that this whole idea of the North American union, it's not something that's just written about by right-wing fringe kooks," said Tancredo, who is considering a run at the presidency.

"It is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it . . ."
Tancredo followed up with an interview on the conservative Fox News network, where he said the borders will lose all their significance, serving merely as "speed bumps" in the flow of goods, services and people.
In October, Tancredo demanded the United States suspend work on the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) signed last year by Canada, Mexico and The United States until Congress examines its goals and agreements, which include standardizing regulations and dismantling other barriers to trade.


The deal to collaborate on a wide range of trade and security issues is part of a larger plot to merge the countries in a European Union-like arrangement using a common currency, he said, with no oversight from legislators.
The congressman, who wrote a book on the border security issue called "In Mortal Danger," is one of four members of Congress who've signed a resolution opposed to a union or a free trade "superhighway system."
the only ones worried about closer ties between the three countries. A coalition of American conservatives is organizing a grassroots effort to make it an issue in the 2008 presidential race and vow to campaign against any candidate, Republican or Democrat, who won't side with them.
The movement was spearheaded in October by Howard Phillips, chairman of the public policy group Conservative Caucus, anti-feminist activist Phyllis Schlafly and author Jerome Corsi.
The group is calling for a congressional investigation into the SPP and full disclosure of all documents when the new Congress run by Democrats begins in January. They're getting support from the Minuteman Project that monitors the borders to deter illegal crossings, a group Bush has called vigilantes.
Supporters of the anti-union stand point out that a prominent three-country task force backed by Canada's business elite has promoted an elaborate vision of a common economy and security perimeter.
The plan, released last year, drew fire from some Canadians who saw it as a dangerous surrender of sovereignty designed to benefit big business.
Tancredo, who has often talked about the "porous" Canada-U.S. border, stirred up controversy last year when he mused on a Florida radio show that America could destroy Islamic holy sites like Mecca if there's another terrorist attack on U.S. soil.
While beloved by many right-wingers and immigration hawks, Tancredo was recently labelled one of the 10 worst congressmen by Rolling Stone magazine.
The publication noted he wants to deport every undocumented worker in the United States, a proposal that would cost at least US$200 billion, and has called for halting all immigration, legal or otherwise.

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thomaska

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Um... Bush will be gone shortly(end of his term) so you can all relax your cia/mossad/kgb/fake-moon-landing/magic bullet/wtc/roswell/..ad nauseum sphincters
 

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The guy is nuttier than a fruitcake.

Why would a Republican US President want to add 30+ Million Democrats to the USA?
 

thomaska

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Tuesday, Nov 21, 2006
U.S. legislator warns of Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico

WASHINGTON (CP) - A U.S. legislator who backs tough anti-immigrant measures and more security at the Canada-U.S. border is warning Americans that President George W. Bush is plotting to integrate the continent. And he says Prime Minister Stephen Harper "buys into it." Colorado Republican Tom Tancredo, revered by some U.S. conservatives for his efforts to staunch the flow of illegal immigrants from Mexico, said this week that Bush is a dangerous internationalist.
"He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that, it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where the guy is really going," he told WorldNetDaily, a controversial conservative website.
"I know this is dramatic, or maybe somebody would say overly dramatic. But I'm telling you that everything I see leads me to believe that this whole idea of the North American union, it's not something that's just written about by right-wing fringe kooks," said Tancredo, who is considering a run at the presidency.

"It is something in the head of the president of the United States, the president of Mexico, I think the prime minister of Canada buys into it . . ."
Tancredo followed up with an interview on the conservative Fox News network, where he said the borders will lose all their significance, serving merely as "speed bumps" in the flow of goods, services and people.
In October, Tancredo demanded the United States suspend work on the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) signed last year by Canada, Mexico and The United States until Congress examines its goals and agreements, which include standardizing regulations and dismantling other barriers to trade.


The deal to collaborate on a wide range of trade and security issues is part of a larger plot to merge the countries in a European Union-like arrangement using a common currency, he said, with no oversight from legislators.
The congressman, who wrote a book on the border security issue called "In Mortal Danger," is one of four members of Congress who've signed a resolution opposed to a union or a free trade "superhighway system."
the only ones worried about closer ties between the three countries. A coalition of American conservatives is organizing a grassroots effort to make it an issue in the 2008 presidential race and vow to campaign against any candidate, Republican or Democrat, who won't side with them.
The movement was spearheaded in October by Howard Phillips, chairman of the public policy group Conservative Caucus, anti-feminist activist Phyllis Schlafly and author Jerome Corsi.
The group is calling for a congressional investigation into the SPP and full disclosure of all documents when the new Congress run by Democrats begins in January. They're getting support from the Minuteman Project that monitors the borders to deter illegal crossings, a group Bush has called vigilantes.
Supporters of the anti-union stand point out that a prominent three-country task force backed by Canada's business elite has promoted an elaborate vision of a common economy and security perimeter.
The plan, released last year, drew fire from some Canadians who saw it as a dangerous surrender of sovereignty designed to benefit big business.
Tancredo, who has often talked about the "porous" Canada-U.S. border, stirred up controversy last year when he mused on a Florida radio show that America could destroy Islamic holy sites like Mecca if there's another terrorist attack on U.S. soil.
While beloved by many right-wingers and immigration hawks, Tancredo was recently labelled one of the 10 worst congressmen by Rolling Stone magazine.
The publication noted he wants to deport every undocumented worker in the United States, a proposal that would cost at least US$200 billion, and has called for halting all immigration, legal or otherwise.

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So, the fact that i live in colorado, on the most landlocked state in the U.S, and you live on an island in Canada, I think gives me the where with all to say(finally) you dont know **** from shine-ola- about u.s. politics. This asshat is only out for whatever gets his name into the public, and you bought into it.

And why would you care anyways? you(not you, but several people) "f"d with me so much about nationalism and patriotism...why would you care whatsoever if we all became intergrated? Hmmm?
 

thomaska

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Oh yes..i forgot post count +1 and...

Tom Tancredo?

GTFO

Give me a phucking break.

Why the hell would we want Canada? We've already got your lumber....

Why would we want Mexico?... Heck, they are already all here....

And... just kidding..lighten up a bit:laughing7:

You all know that none of the stuff we all debate on here has no direct impact on our day to day lives...

So quit acting like it does.
 

#juan

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I posted the news article as I found it. Toro says "Tancredo is a nutbar". Fair enough. Is Tancredo a bigger nutbar than Bush? I don't think so. After all the lies and deception we've seen from Bush, can I rule out anything? I don't think so. Who would have bet in 1964 that the U.S. would go into a small country that was not a threat, and kill three million people? Not me.
 

I think not

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I posted the news article as I found it. Toro says "Tancredo is a nutbar". Fair enough. Is Tancredo a bigger nutbar than Bush? I don't think so. After all the lies and deception we've seen from Bush, can I rule out anything?

I agree, Bush cannot be trusted. Does this mean Canadians will automatically drop their pants and bend over? Just curious.
 

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ottawabill

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huh?
I would certainly think the U.S. would like to see a north American security policy but other then that why would they want Mexico and Canada?

Isn't it better to sell things and buy things from the other two countries without dealing with anything else?

Besides if any place is going to become a state it will be Perto Rico....

I concur...why would Bush want 30 millions more Democrats??
 

normbc9

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This topic is now on the move quickly in the US Congress with secret hearings in progress. The senate hearings are chaired by Elizabeth Dole and Christopher Dodd. The House Committee is chaired by John Conyers and whoever will replaced Rick Santorum. The Coincil of Foreign relations has approporiated one hundred million US dolloars to lobby the bills in both Houses. The Senate Bill is S 853. The House is H.R. 1256. Go to any search engine and type in "North American Cooperative Security agreement and look for yourself. This is not good for Canada or the U.S. How does each country keep and honour it's constitutions?
 

Zzarchov

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If by "North American Union" you mean less de-facto soveriegnty while still having de-jure soveriegnty then your about 50 years too late.

Already Canada and America share a closer bond than any other two countries. Our Militaries are linked at the highest levels. Even though we didn't declare war on Iraq canadian soldiers still went in, and American soldiers still ended up cleaning snow from Toronto.

And when it comes to travel and trade..there is barely any reason to HAVE a border, I can cross without a passport..and DO.

The difference between being part of a formal union and what we are..is that tommorow we could decide to go back to passports and Tarriffs and completely seperate military operations.
 

Tonington

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Well starting in January you will need a passport to enter the states by air or sea. In 2008 we will need a passport or some other form of secure border ID card to cross the land borders. The union proposed by the nutbar seems awfully similar to the EU.
 

Curiosity

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The idea isn't new...Reagan was spouting it years ago....Tancredo is spinning it as if he thought of it...
Excerpt from Ronald Reagan's speech, announcing his candidacy for President of the United States, November 13, 1979:

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"We live on a continent whose three countries possess the assets to make it the strongest, most prosperous and self-sufficient area on Earth. Within the borders of this North American continent are the food, resources, technology and undeveloped territory which, properly managed, could dramatically improve the quality of life of all its inhabitants."
"It is no accident that this unmatched potential for progress and prosperity exists in three countries with such long-standing heritages of free government. A developing closeness among Canada, Mexico and the United States--a North American accord--would permit achievement of that potential in each country beyond that which I believe any of them--strong as they are--could accomplish in the absence of such cooperation. In fact, the key to our own future security may lie in both Mexico and Canada becoming much stronger countries than they are today."
"No one can say at this point precisely what form future cooperation among our three countries will take. But if I am elected President, I would be willing to invite each of our neighbors to send a special representative to our government to sit in on high level planning sessions with us, as partners, mutually concerned about the future of our continent. First, I would immediately seek the views and ideas of Canadian and Mexican leaders on this issue, and work tirelessly with them to develop closer ties among our peoples. It is time we stopped thinking of our nearest neighbors as foreigners."
"By developing methods of working closely together, we will lay the foundations for future cooperation on a broader and more significant scale. We will put to rest any doubts of those cynical enough to believe that the United States would seek to dominate any relationship among our three countries, or foolish enough to think that the governments and peoples of Canada and Mexico would ever permit such domination to occur. I for one, am confident that we can show the world by example that the nations of North America are ready, within the context of an unswerving commitment to freedom, to see new forms of accommodation to meet a changing world. A developing closeness between the United States, Canada and Mexico would serve notice on friends and foe alike that we were prepared for a long haul, looking outward again and confident of our future; that together we are going to create jobs, to generate new fortunes of wealth for many and provide a legacy for the children of each of our countries. Two hundred years ago, we taught the world that a new form of government, created out of the genius of man to cope with his circumstances, could succeed in bringing a measure of quality to human life previously thought impossible." "Now let us work toward the goal of using the assets of this continent, its resources, technology, and foodstuffs in the most efficient ways possible for the common good of all its people. It may take the next 100 years but we can dare to dream that at some future date a map of the world might show the North American continent as one in which the people's commerce of its three strong countries flow more freely across their present borders than they do today."

Right y'all - so are we gonna have to learn French, Spanish and Redneck too?

And then there is a problem with Quebec talking about border crossings as if they are a sovreign nation unto themselves.... So it would be four nations/?
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ottawabill

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This topic is now on the move quickly in the US Congress with secret hearings in progress. The senate hearings are chaired by Elizabeth Dole and Christopher Dodd. The House Committee is chaired by John Conyers and whoever will replaced Rick Santorum. The Coincil of Foreign relations has approporiated one hundred million US dolloars to lobby the bills in both Houses. The Senate Bill is S 853. The House is H.R. 1256. Go to any search engine and type in "North American Cooperative Security agreement and look for yourself. This is not good for Canada or the U.S. How does each country keep and honour it's constitutions?

If it is all so secret as you say them why is it I can look it up so easy and read the bills???