British man allegedly beaten by Canadian soldiers

[Tonington]

What a bunch of god damned rubbish. There is not one god damned organization on earth that is immune to the sometimes idiotic and violent tendencies of human nature. To those tarring the American military for one psychopath and the puppy, get a clue. To those tarring the Canadian military for these two rejects, get a clue.

Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone. That means none of you, I can confidently say. Everyone has moments of stupidity or insanely bad judgment. But tarring all of those in their perspective organizations with the same wide brush? What the hell? This is so similar to the inane left-right bull $hit.

What's next? Accusing all homosexuals of being lewd and disgusting voyeurs because some like a parade? Exercise some god damned grey matter.

Pathetic...

 

[karrie]

What a bunch of god damned rubbish. There is not one god damned organization on earth that is immune to the sometimes idiotic and violent tendencies of human nature. To those tarring the American military for one psychopath and the puppy, get a clue. To those tarring the Canadian military for these two rejects, get a clue.

Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone. That means none of you, I can confidently say. Everyone has moments of stupidity or insanely bad judgment. But tarring all of those in their perspective organizations with the same wide brush? What the hell? This is so similar to the inane left-right bull $hit.

What's next? Accusing all homosexuals of being lewd and disgusting voyeurs because some like a parade? Exercise some god damned grey matter.

Pathetic...

I'm not trying to paint them all with broad strokes T.

But to me there's no reason to shrug and say 'boys will be boys' (so to speak), and not expect that the military will take notice, perhaps make an attempt to not have their guys 'decompressing' on foreign soil. Like I said, if oil patch towns are aware of this sort of phenomena, then shouldn't the military be as well?

Frankly, to me, the puppy incident is much less worrisome. It's an isolated behavior. This sort of thing isn't. This is a common result of stress meeting booze and a sense of anonymity.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

That it a total crock of BS. Inserting your political agenda into a "crime" is ludicrous.

No it's not. Under Harper we've pushed our troops into a bloody civil war that is guarenteed to effect morale, discipline and create chronic PTSD in our soldiers. And don't give me any more of this "it was the Liberals who sent them" crap, it was Harper who bought into Bushs war on terror that he's tried to overlay on civil wars in more than one country. Wherever armed forces are used for political purposes morale and discipline are going to suffer.

I suppose you're one of these people who think what happened to the low ranking enlisted personel at Abu Ghraib was fair even though it was the policies imposed on them that led directly to their crimes.

What political agenda would that be anyway, accountability in our government, I'm so ashamed, you caught me.

 

[Tonington]

But to me there's no reason to shrug and say 'boys will be boys' (so to speak), and not expect that the military will take notice, perhaps make an attempt to not have their guys 'decompressing' on foreign soil. Like I said, if oil patch towns are aware of this sort of phenomena, then shouldn't the military be as well?

Frankly, to me, the puppy incident is much less worrisome. It's an isolated behavior. This sort of thing isn't. This is a common result of stress meeting booze and a sense of anonymity.

I'm pretty sure that in both respective incidents, the command chain is aware of what has happened. There's only so much screening that can be done before it's unrealistic. As I said, no organization on this planet has shown that it's possible to screen for unwanted behaviour with 100% certainty. How they handle it is one thing, but for some posters in both the threads I'm thinking of, to make this an issue that reflects poorly on all members of the respective militaries is just plain ignorant.

Stress is indeed a worrying issue. I agree with you 100% on that.

 

[DurkaDurka]

No it's not. Under Harper we've pushed our troops into a bloody civil war that is guarenteed to effect morale, discipline and create chronic PTSD in our soldiers. And don't give me any more of this "it was the Liberals who sent them" crap, it was Harper who bought into Bushs war on terror that he's tried to overlay on civil wars in more than one country. Wherever armed forces are used for political purposes morale and discipline is going to suffer.

I suppose you're one of these people who think what happened to the low ranking enlisted personel at Abu Ghraib was fair even though it was the policies imposed on them that led directly to their crimes.

What political agenda would that be anyway, accountability in our government, I'm so ashamed, you caught me.

Soldiers fight, Cobalt, that's what they do. You haven't a clue as to their morale, discipline or PTSD. You are talking out your ass and attempting to have this crime play into your "Harper is evil" ideology. I'm not blaming the Liberals or the Cons, these soldier screwed up, not the political system.

Your political agenda is to be a whiny brat and try to link every ill that happens in this country to the Conservative government. I'm not a huge fan of them either but I'm not so daft as to blame them for this crime.

 

[Scott Free]

I'm surprised by this. Don't we teach our soldiers they can only beat on unpeople?

 

[Praxius]

True and when these things happen one shouldn't. Unfortunatly, when you see a large pile of these situations and actions which I would call "unbecoming of a soldier" from one country's military, one seriously has to look at the military as a whole and what procedures and training is involved in the forces to prevent these type of actions, or at the very least, these kinds of people from getting in.

^ This post was for another thread, disregard.

 

[EagleSmack]

^ This post was for another thread, disregard.

Which thread?