What's your cut of Britins GDP? I'll save you the trouble, fluck all, the filthy rich make up the bulk of GDP, the commoners are dirt.
British economy is best in the world, outstripping US, Japan and EU
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What's your cut of Britins GDP? I'll save you the trouble, fluck all, the filthy rich make up the bulk of GDP, the commoners are dirt.
The future yet still imaginary Brit carriers will be nothing more than modern day jeep carriers or support carriers compared to the US Super Carrier. And of course it's air wing will be made up of US Aircraft.
Don't look very imaginary to me:
Almost of the the aircraft carriers the US used in WWII were jeep carriers.
As for the Queen Elizabeth-class carriers, they'll be the second-largest carriers in the world.
Of course, its airwing will be made up almost entirely of British aircraft.
All of the Brits carriers in the future will be jeep carriers.
Second to each and every American carrier.
Including our decommissioned ones!
BOOM!
A Brit carrier based aircraft will be foreign made... along with the technology.
The aircraft used in the attack/fighter role will be the naval version of the F-35.
So true... linked from the HMS Queen Elizabeth website...
Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
US Made... along with US Made Chinooks, Apaches and Merlins. Merlins are really US Made CH-53's. The ship (if it actually floats) will have space for US Made Ospreys.
BOOM!
The last jeep carrier, the USS Gilbert Islands, was broken up for scrap starting in 1976.
The United States is five times the size of the United Kingdom.
They're actually constructed in the UK.
As I've already pointed out, the F-35 isn't a wholly US aircraft. It is being designed and built by an aerospace industry team which includes Britain's BAE Systems. Why do I have to point this fact out to you? Saying the multinational F-35 JOINT Strike Fighter is American would be like calling the Eurofighter Typhoon British, or German.
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So what time you dropping anchor in Gaza City?
Not the nicest way to get the contract to build the 3-mile harbor but time is short.
PS Don't forget to inspect the bung on this boat, Remember the Titanic FCS
Not the nicest way to get the contract to build the 3-mile harbor but time is short.
PS Don't forget to inspect the bung on this boat, Remember the Titanic FCS
The false flag about what a dog the F-35 is is about as tricky as cardboard tanks in WWII. The only ones who believe that are the ones that don't matter. The big question would be why the push for so much money to fix non-existent problems unless some other black project was going a head at full steam. With all the hype we would only be safe flying bi-planes, our safety would have been in the fact the pilots were still allowed to think. If anything it might be the cardboard tank of this era because all the fast weapons are running a double digit mach. Or the advantage over Iraq having a fleet of SU-25's, they won't be part of any wave of attacks against anybody, cardboard is meant for distance in calm weather.
Sometimes I get the impression that I'm the only one here who actually researches things.
British Apaches are not the same Apaches that the Yanks use. The British Apaches were designed and built by British company Westland Helicopters and were constructed at Yeovil in Somerset and are better than the ones the Yanks use.
The Merlins are NOT really US-made CH-53s. The Merlin is a medium-lift helicopter used in both military and civil applications. It was developed by joint venture between Westland Helicopters in the UK and Agusta in Italy in response to national requirements for a modern naval utility helicopter; until 2007, the aircraft had been marketed under the designation EH101. Several operators, including the armed forces of Britain, Denmark and Portugal, use the name Merlin for their AW101 aircraft. It is manufactured at factories in Yeovil, England and Vergiate, Italy.
The JSF Lightning II (named after the English Electric Lightning) is not an American aircraft. Just 30 seconds of quick research will show you that it is being designed and built by a team of aerospace companies, including Britain's BAE Systems. The fact that you thought it was a Yank aircraft says more about Yanks' ability to overstate their country's importance and abilities.
There are no Ospreys to be operated on the Queen Elizabeth-class carriers.
Of course, it was the British who invented such vertical take-off aircraft when we developed the Harrier Jump Jet in the 1960s. And there are many British-built Harrier Jump Jets serving in the US Marine Corps right now.
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And the newest jeep carrier will be the HMS Queen Elisabeth.
And we have 10 Active Super Carriers. Surely you can manage at least one.
Lockheed-Martin F-35 Lightning II.
Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company is a major unit of Lockheed Martin with headquarters at Air Force Plant 4 in Fort Worth, Texas.
Lockheed Martin Aeronautics is also based in Marietta, Georgia and Palmdale, California. Palmdale is home to the Advanced Development Programs (ADP), informally known as the "Skunk Works". Various subassemblies are produced at locations in Florida, Mississippi, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia.
The company draws upon the history of the former Lockheed and Martin Marietta corporations. While the formation of Lockheed Martin in 1995 was a merger of equals, by far the greatest contribution to Lockheed Martin Aeronautics was the product portfolio of Lockheed. This included the C-5, C-130, and C-141 transports as well as the F-2, F-16 (purchased from General Dynamics), F-117, F-22, and F-35 Lightning II.
BOOM!
Apaches... US Design... US Made
CH-53s... plain and simple.
Named after English Electric Lightning. LMAO... what a tard.
HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The hangars are designed for CH-47 Chinook operations without blade folding and the V-22 Osprey tiltrotor, whilst the aircraft lifts can accommodate two Chinooks with unfolded blades"
Both US Aircraft
So easy.
Of course and as usual you are wrong. VTOL aircraft developed in the late 1940's and VTOL jets in the 1950s by the US.
BOOM!
The rich elites own all and make all the decisions. Wallstreet is their puppet.
The Queen Elizabeth-class carriers are 65,000 tons. They're hardly "jeep carriers". Jeep carriers are what the US mostly used during WWII. Most US "carriers" in WWII were merely little jeep carriers.
We'll have three carriers if you count helicopter carrier HMS Ocean, too. That means we will have more aircraft carriers per head of population than the US.
The F-35 is a MULTINATIONAL programme, hence its name - JOINT Strike Fighter. Its design and build involves several multinational companies, including Britain's BAE Systems. To say that it is an American aircraft is just sheer and breathtaking American arrogance of the highest order, and ignores those companies and people from several nations, including Britain, who are helping develop the aircraft.
Put it this way - you saying that the F-35 is an American aircraft would be like me saying that that other great multinational aircraft, the Eurofighter, is a British-only plane.
The British Apaches are made to a different design to their American counterparts and were designed and built in Yeovil, Somerset by British company Westland Helicopters.
The British Apache is superior to the American one. Changes from the American version include more powerful Rolls-Royce engines, a new electronic defensive aids suite and a folding blade mechanism allowing the British version (unlike the American one) to operate from ships.
This is an RAF Merlin. It was developed by joint venture between Westland Helicopters in the UK and Agusta in Italy in response to national requirements for a modern naval utility helicopter. It is manufactured at factories in Yeovil, England and Vergiate, Italy
This is a CH-53, a completely different aircraft to the Merlin, and is operated solely by the US, Israel, Iran and Germany.
The reason I know the F-35 is named after the English Electric Lightning is because I've done my research, which always helps.
The Queen Elizabeth-class carriers will be operating F-35s, Chinooks, AgustaWestland Apaches, Merlin, Lynx Wildcats and Merlin Crowsnest AEWs. They will not be operating V-22 Ospreys. Britain doesn't even have any V-22 Ospreys.
The British developed the first VTOL aircraft in 1947, the Fairey Gyrodyne.
... Just like the HMS Hood... Cannon fodder and target practice for real navies
... Just like the HMS Hood... Cannon fodder and target practice for real navies
And, in turn, the Bismarck would be sunk by King George V and Rodney, and the Royal Navy would go on to defeat the Kriegsmarine in WWII.
At the start of the war in September 1939, the Royal Navy was still the largest and most powerful naval force on the planet, with 15 battleships and battlecruisers; seven aircraft carriers with a further five under construction; 66 cruisers; 184 destroyers; 60 submarines; 45 escort and patrol vessels; and 56 Flower-class corvettes were on order.
The RN had even swallowed parts of other navies in the Empire, and had six Australian cruisers; five Australian destroyers; two Australian sloops; six Canadian destroyers; six Indian escorts and patrol vessels; two New Zealand cruisers; and two New Zealand sloops (until October 1941, the Royal New Zealand Navy was actually part of the Royal Navy) in its ranks.
In 1945, the RN had grown even more, and in August of that year it consisted of 58 aircraft carriers; 35 cruisers; 277 destroyers; and 178 submarines, plus several other ships.
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Psst! Don't anybody tell Blackleaf that 1945 was 69 years ago. Poor boy'd be crushed.
They were not sunk with a single shot... They shamed the Royal navy on multiple occasions, most notably, sinking the 'pride of the British navy' (HMS Hood) with one single, solitary shot.
Britain's economy storms ahead: Number of people in work in the UK rises by more than the WHOLE of EU put together
By Matt Chorley, MailOnline Political Editor
4 September 2014
Daily Mail
The number of people in work in Britain has increased by more than the rest of the EU put together.
Since 2010, an extra 1.6million people have found a job, while across the rest of the EU total employment has fallen by 1.08million.
David Cameron revealed the extraordinary statistic during a meeting with Tory MPs as he set out how the economic revival will be central to his hopes of winning next year’s election.
Between March 2010 and March 2014, the number of people in work in the UK has risen by 1.6million, but in the other 27 EU countries the figure has fallen by 1.07million, according to Eurostat figures
David Cameron, pictured at the Nato summit in Wales, has boasted that the figures show his economic plan is working. Today he held talks with (left to right) France's President Francois Hollande, Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko, US President Barack Obama, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi
Growth in the UK jobs market has surged in the last year, in marked contrast with other EU countries.
The economy is now bigger than before the 2008 financial crash, after securing growth of 3.2 per cent in the year to June.
There are now more than 30million people in work, the highest since records began.
Between March 2010 and March 2014, the number of people in work in the UK rose from 28.66million to 30.26million, a rise of 1.6million or six per cent, according to figures from Eurostat.
Over the same four year period, the numbers in work in all 28 EU member states rose by 540,000 to 215 million, an increase of just 0.3 per cent.
When Britain is excluded, employment in the remaining 27 countries fell by 1.067million or 0.6 per cent.
Only Germany saw a bigger rise in the numbers in work, up by 1.996million.
By contrast, there have been dramatic falls in employment in Spain (down 1.7million), Greece (942,000) and Italy (586,000) – countries hardest hit by the eurozone crisis.
Mr Cameron boasted of the trend as he addressed a meeting of Tory MPs on Tuesday evening.
He delivered an upbeat message that the economy is booming but the job is not yet done, stressing that the Conservatives can win 'if we stick to our long term economic plan'.
Yesterday it emerged Britain’s economy has grown more quickly than previously thought since the Coalition took power.
In the four years since 2010 the economy has grown by 8.1 per cent – 1.1 per cent more than the original estimate, according to the Office for National Statistics.
It means the economy is now 2.7 per cent bigger than it was before the economic crash in 2007.
Overall, Britain has enjoyed the third best economic growth in the G7 since 2010 – more than France and Germany, but still behind the US and Canada.
Speaking at Prime Minister Questions, Mr Cameron said: ‘ ‘There should not be any complacency, because the job is not yet done, but our long-term economic plan is working and it is the way to secure a better future for our country.’
Read more: Number of people in work in the UK rises by more than the rest of the EU put together | Mail Online
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And neither was the Hood, as I've pointed out countless times, yet you still keep banging on as though it was.
Since 2010, an extra 1.6million people have found a job in the UK
But there are 1.08million FEWER people in work in all the other 27 EU nations
David Cameron boasts the figures show his economic plan is working
Tells Tory MPs how the economy is booming 'but the job is not yet done'
But there are 1.08million FEWER people in work in all the other 27 EU nations
David Cameron boasts the figures show his economic plan is working
Tells Tory MPs how the economy is booming 'but the job is not yet done'
By Matt Chorley, MailOnline Political Editor
4 September 2014
Daily Mail
The number of people in work in Britain has increased by more than the rest of the EU put together.
Since 2010, an extra 1.6million people have found a job, while across the rest of the EU total employment has fallen by 1.08million.
David Cameron revealed the extraordinary statistic during a meeting with Tory MPs as he set out how the economic revival will be central to his hopes of winning next year’s election.
Between March 2010 and March 2014, the number of people in work in the UK has risen by 1.6million, but in the other 27 EU countries the figure has fallen by 1.07million, according to Eurostat figures
David Cameron, pictured at the Nato summit in Wales, has boasted that the figures show his economic plan is working. Today he held talks with (left to right) France's President Francois Hollande, Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko, US President Barack Obama, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi
Growth in the UK jobs market has surged in the last year, in marked contrast with other EU countries.
The economy is now bigger than before the 2008 financial crash, after securing growth of 3.2 per cent in the year to June.
There are now more than 30million people in work, the highest since records began.
Between March 2010 and March 2014, the number of people in work in the UK rose from 28.66million to 30.26million, a rise of 1.6million or six per cent, according to figures from Eurostat.
Over the same four year period, the numbers in work in all 28 EU member states rose by 540,000 to 215 million, an increase of just 0.3 per cent.
When Britain is excluded, employment in the remaining 27 countries fell by 1.067million or 0.6 per cent.
Only Germany saw a bigger rise in the numbers in work, up by 1.996million.
By contrast, there have been dramatic falls in employment in Spain (down 1.7million), Greece (942,000) and Italy (586,000) – countries hardest hit by the eurozone crisis.
Mr Cameron boasted of the trend as he addressed a meeting of Tory MPs on Tuesday evening.
He delivered an upbeat message that the economy is booming but the job is not yet done, stressing that the Conservatives can win 'if we stick to our long term economic plan'.
Yesterday it emerged Britain’s economy has grown more quickly than previously thought since the Coalition took power.
In the four years since 2010 the economy has grown by 8.1 per cent – 1.1 per cent more than the original estimate, according to the Office for National Statistics.
It means the economy is now 2.7 per cent bigger than it was before the economic crash in 2007.
Overall, Britain has enjoyed the third best economic growth in the G7 since 2010 – more than France and Germany, but still behind the US and Canada.
Speaking at Prime Minister Questions, Mr Cameron said: ‘ ‘There should not be any complacency, because the job is not yet done, but our long-term economic plan is working and it is the way to secure a better future for our country.’
Read more: Number of people in work in the UK rises by more than the rest of the EU put together | Mail Online
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And neither was the Hood, as I've pointed out countless times, yet you still keep banging on as though it was.
Well, when you construct a boat designed for ease of retreat and surrender, I guess that you don't have any ability to defend against a missile attack.
This is the case with the HMS Hood.