Britain destroyed records of colonial crimes

[CDNBear]

Yes, really. There were Native Americans allied with the British against the Americans in both the War of Independence and the War of 1812.

They didn't seem to hate us that much.

Until you turned on us.

The relationship didn't end amicably in 1812 you know.

For an example, look up the British Crowns actions at the League of Nations, when they used their hefty might to block the Haudenosaunee from gaining entry.

That isn't how you make friends and influence people.

And we haven't forgotten.

 

[Blackleaf]

Until you turned on us.

The relationship didn't end amicably in 1812 you know.

For an example, look up the British Crowns actions at the League of Nations, when they used their hefty might to block the Haudenosaunee from gaining entry.

That isn't how you make friends and influence people.

And we haven't forgotten.

And just imagine how many Native Indians the Americans and Canadians massacred AFTER the British had left.

 

[CDNBear]

And just imagine how many Native Indians the Americans and Canadians massacred AFTER the British had left.

Your pathetic deflection aside... Or how many the British slaughter for land in the 1600's. Like the Powhatan, or the Pequot. The term extermination is used to describe how that went down. Look up Governor Baron de la Warre.

Perhaps you should read a history book written someone not British.

 

[Blackleaf]

Your pathetic deflection aside...

How many was it? I bet the Americans and Canadians slaughtered more Native Indians than the British did.

The Europeans mainly accidentally wiped the Native Indians out by disease. A lot of the slaughtering took place by the Americans and Canadians after the British left.

Countless thousands of Indians were brutally slaughtered by the Yanks between 1811 and 1924, 15,000 being slaughtered between 1850 and 1890 alone. Was that the fault of the British, too?

The fact is that the Americans and Canadians were far more brutal to the Native Indians than the British were, and it's time to stop believing in your revisionist, romantic history where the tendency is to blame "the Brits" for everything.

The deliberate killing of Native Americans was NOT widespread under the British - contary to the beliefs and teachings of many North American historians.

Most of the deliberate slaughter of Native Americans was perpetrated by the Americans and Canadians when the British had long gone.

 

[CDNBear]

How many was it?

Oh, so numbers make a difference. LOL.

Whatever dude, you keep grasping onto that inflated self image you have.

The Europeans mainly accidentally wiped the Native Indians out by disease.

LMAO!!!

The fact is that the Americans and Canadians were far more brutal to the Native Indians than the British were, and it's time to stop believing in your revisionist, romantic history where the tendency is to blame "the Brits" for everything.

I've done no such thing, the opposite is true.

I have no delusions as to Canadian and American wrong doing. In regards to the Canadian acts, with the approval of the British Crown.

It is you that seems to be living in a delusional state about the murderous nature of your past.

The deliberate killing of Native Americans was NOT widespread under the British - contary to the beliefs and teachings of many North American historians.

I never said it was widespread, nor do I know of any historian that has made such a claim.

But you still slaughtered Natives here.

Numbers don't make you the better empire.

The intention was extermination.

Your failure to do so, is just a happy happenstance.

 

[Blackleaf]

Oh, so numbers make a difference. LOL.

Whatever dude, you keep grasping onto that inflated self image you have.

LMAO!!!

I would say that the numbers are fairly important. It showed which people killed more Native Americans. And the figures show that the Americans and Canadians deliberately butchered more of them than the British did.

I have no delusions as to Canadian and American wrong doing. In regards to the Canadian acts, with the approval of the British Crown.

The approval of the British Government, not the British Crown. Get your facts right. Britain is a constitutional monarchy with merely a figurehead as Head of State, not an Absolute Monarchy.

And you cannot blame "the Crown" on the thousands of Indians that were brutally and barbarically butchered by the Americans between 1811 and 1924.

It is you that seems to be living in a delusional state about the murderous nature of your past.

It is, in fact, you who are suffering such a delusion.

The REALITY is that the British did NOT enagage in wholesale slaughter of the Native Indians. It was the Americans and Canadian who engaged in wholesale slaughter of them once the British had gone. The Yanks perpetrated far more Wounded Knees than the British ever did.

I never said it was widespread, nor do I know of any historian that has made such a claim.

The whoelsale slaughter of Indians in North America WAS widespread - but only after the British had left.

But you still slaughtered Natives here.

Numbers don't make you the better empire

Nowhere near as you, and many Yank and Canuck "historians", would have us believe.

The British did not engage in the wholesale, deliberate slaugher of countless thousands of Native Indians. It's a myth. But it's not the first myth peddled by North Americans about the British in North America. You lot still believe the lie that the British pressganged Americans into the Royal navy.

The intention was extermination.

Well, I've already pointed out that that around 96% of the Native Indians were wiped out BEFORE the British arrived.

And the vast majority of those Indians killed by the British were killed by diseases the British brought with them, like smallpox.

The British did NOT set out to exterminate the Indians. If you want to blame somebody for wanting to exterminate the Indians then blame the Americans, who massacred countless thousands of them AFTER the British had left. As I've said, the Americans and Canadians perpetrated far more Wounded Knees than the British did.

 

[CDNBear]

I would say that the numbers are fairly important.

But of course you do, you use it to feel nobly and morally superior.

A failing on your part.

Your intent was the exact same, extermination.

The approval of the British Government, not the British Crown. Get your facts right. Britain is a constitutional monarchy with merely a figurehead as Head of State, not an Absolute Monarchy.

And like our Government, it is known as the Crown.

And you cannot blame "the Crown" on the thousands of Indians that were brutally and barbarically butchered by the Americans between 1811 and 1924.

I don't, stop making stuff up.

It is, in fact, you who are suffering such a delusion.

Nope, I have no doubt you will never budge from your position, I will rest on my posts and the ability of the objective among us, to see through yours.

The REALITY is that the British did NOT enagage in wholesale slaughter of the Native Indians.

They tried, they failed.

Get over it, lol. Your deflections are weak and sad.

The whoelsale slaughter of Indians in North America WAS widespread - but only after the British had left.

Blah, blah, blah, more deflection.

Nowhere near as you, and many Yank and Canuck "historians", would have us believe.

Doesn't matter, your intent was the same.

The British did not engage in the wholesale, deliberate slaugher of countless thousands of Native Indians. It's a myth. But it's not the first myth peddles by North Americans about the British in North America. You lot still believe the lie that the British pressganged Americans into the Royal navy.

Blah, blah, blah, more of your pathetic deflection.

The British did NOT set out to exterminate the Indians.

Yes you did, lol. Look up Jamestown, Baron de la warre.

The word exterminate is used to describe the actions.

Get over yourself and your countries past dude, you're butchers for profit.

 

[Blackleaf]

But of course you do, you use it to feel nobly and morally superior.

In the case of the Native Indians, we are morally and nobly superior to the Canadians and Americans due to the fact that the Canadians and Americans butchered far more Native Indians than the British did.

It is true that the British did not engage in widespread slaughter of the Native Americans like the Americans and Canadians did. I'm not making it up.

Your intent was the exact same, extermination.

Bull****. What are you saying? That we deliberately tried to wipe them all out by infecting them with smallpox? Because, like I've said, the British did NOT engage in the systematic slaughter of Native Indians like the Americans did. The British mainly accidentally killed some Indians due to disease.

if you want to see butchery of Native Indians just look what the Yanks did when the British left. I bet the Indians were crying out for the British to come back.

And like our Government, it is known as the Crown.

Well, you can hardly blame "the Crown" for the tens or hundreds of thousands of Indians that were brutally slaughtered by the Yanks long after the british had left.

Nope, I have no doubt you will never budge from your position, I will rest on my posts and the ability of the objective among us, to see through yours.

Yes you are. It is you who who trying to deny and ignore the brutal slaughter and pillage that your country undertook. You are of the opinion that it was the British who deliberately slaughtered countless thousands of Indians. You are wrong. The British did not udnertake systematic slaughter and butchery of Indians. The systematic slaughter of them was perpetrated by the Americans and Canadians long after the British had left.

I'll say it again - you lot perpetrated far more Wounded Knees than the British ever did.

They tried, they failed.

Yeah, whatever. I bet you also believe, like many North Americans do, that the British pressganged Americans into the Royal Navy 200 years ago. I bet you also believe in Santa Claus, too.

Blah, blah, blah, more deflection.

Of course I'm deflecting. I'm deflecting the blame onto the people where the blame should lie - the Americans and Canadians.

You lot butchered far more Indians than the British did, and the British - unlike the Americans and Canadians - did NOT systematically engage in the wholesale slaughter of Indians. Stop believing the lies your historians tell you.

Yes you did, lol. Look up Jamestown, Baron de la warre.

For every Jamestown I could probably find 100 Wounded Knees.

Get over yourself and your countries past dude, you're butchers for profit.

You were the ones who did most of the butchering of the Indians. It wasn't the British.

I've nothing to get over. It's you who needs to see the truth. And the truth is that the Americans and to a lesser extent the Canadians engaged in wholesale butchering of Indians. The British didn't.

Go away, study it, and then come back and apologise to me and admit you are wrong.

 

[captain morgan]

I would say that the numbers are fairly important. It showed which people killed more Native Americans. And the figures show that the Americans and Canadians deliberately butchered more of them than the British did.

Why restrict the analysis of how many indigenous people that Britain killed to just NorAm?

Britain has centuries of colonial engagements throughout Asia, the Far East and NorAm that represent its rich tradition of murder, rape and wholesale slaughter.

 

[CDNBear]

In the case of the Native Indians, we are morally and nobly superior to the Canadians and Americans due to the fact that the Canadians and Americans butchered far more Native Indians than the British did.

LMAO!!

Only you could use moral relativity in such a monumental way, to perpetuate your own myths, lol.

It is true that the British did not engage in widespread slaughter of the Native Americans like the Americans and Canadians did. I'm not making it up.

No one said you were, are you drunk or something? Or are you just making up fictitious arguments now?

Bull****. What are you saying? That we deliberately tried to wipe them all out by infecting them with smallpox? Because, like I've said, the British did NOT engage in the systematic slaughter of Native Indians like the Americans did. The British mainly accidentally killed some Indians due to disease.

I see you didn't look up Baron de la Warre or Jamestown, or the Powhatan, or the Peqout.

Good call, the truth would likely kill you, lol.

Well, you can hardly blame "the Crown" for the tens or hundreds of thousands of Indians that were brutally slaughtered by the Yanks long after the british had left.

I don't, stop making stuff up.

Yes you are. It is you who who trying to deny and ignore the brutal slaughter and pillage that your country undertook. You are of the opinion that it was the British who deliberately slaughtered countless thousands of Indians. You are wrong. The British did not udnertake systematic slaughter and butchery of Indians. The systematic slaughter of them was perpetrated by the Americans and Canadians long after the British had left.

I'll say it again - you lot perpetrated far more Wounded Knees than the British ever did.

Seriously dude. Do you even read my posts?

Yeah, whatever.

Excellent retort, I see you've given up all reason. Just your ancestors, as they slaughter mine, lol.

Get over it, lol. Your deflections are weak and sad.

Of course I'm deflecting.

I know, the truth really hurts you. I can tell.

You lot butchered far more Indians than the British did, and the British - unlike the Americans and Canadians - did NOT systematically engage in the wholesale slaughter of Indians. Stop believing the lies your historians tell you.

Wow, here we go again, you're so emotional and unreasonable, you keep missing the fact that I'm a Native, lol.

For every Jamestown, Baron de la warre I could probably find 100 Wounded Knees.

That doesn't change your intent.

You came to take, and then slaughtered for profit. Like your butcher empire has done countless times.

You were the ones who did most of the butchering of the Indians. It wasn't the British.

I'm Native dude, for the umpteenth time, lol.

I'm nothing to get over.

I disagree. Just look at how emotional you are. You can't even remember who you're talking to. You implying I'm American.

When you've been told countless times, and even debated me as, A Native, lol.

It's you who needs to see the truth.

LOL, is that why you're all emotional and rambling now?

The British didn't.

Oh yes you did, you just won't admit it, it hurts you to much.

I understand how emotional that makes you.

 

[hunboldt]

Goddamn hanglos comes into mes Forum and takes-away mes Coupe Stanley.

Au revoir you leetle petites mousie.. I has going to gets mes hairs couped immediatement

There goes the " Mouse ate my sister claim, big Toad or Froggie!"

 

[CDNBear]

Go away, study it, and then come back and apologise to me and admit you are wrong.

Oh how emotional of you.

I see I have struck a cord.

Sorry, i didn't mean to embarrass you so badly.

 

[hunboldt]

So the Bloc Quebecois is heard from? I wonder why he's on a Canadian site?

That is one ugly picture. Touche....

Looks like an Aussie Cane Toad....

 

[captain morgan]

There goes the " Mouse ate my sister claim, big Toad or Froggie!"

A mouse once BIT my sister.

Probably an anglo mouse

 

[SLM]

A mouse once BIT my sister.

Probably an anglo mouse

There, there...oops, sorry. I mean, dere, dere, that was a long time ago.

 

[DaSleeper]

There, there...oops, sorry. I mean, dere, dere, that was a long time ago.

Funny how some people just fit into the stereotype of how the world sees their country....sayy wot?

 

[SLM]

Funny how some people just fit into the stereotype of how the world sees their country....sayy wot?

Some people are their own worst enemy. So if my enemies worst enemy is himself, does that make them my friend? Hmmm, interesting philosophical dilemma.

 

[DaSleeper]

Some people are there own worst enemy. So if my enemies worst enemy is himself, does that make them my friend? Hmmm, interesting philosophical dilemma.

Perfect example of a conundrum :smile:

 

[captain morgan]

Some people are there own worst enemy. So if my enemies worst enemy is himself, does that make them my friend? Hmmm, interesting philosophical dilemma.

Makes it even more interesting when one includes those that are self-loathing

 

[SLM]

Perfect example of a conundrum :smile:

It's like those silent trees falling in the forest, it'll probably never be solved.

Makes it even more interesting when one includes those that are self-loathing

Mind blown.8O