Is all of Britain ready to suddenly turn "radical right" or is that another illusion. The "Very Right" in this country are do sure of their righteousness that they also think they'll sweep the country in a sudden Libertarian wave even though they only represent 15-20% of the country. UKIP will only muster a distant third. You may think that you're "part of a great wave" but it's an illusion brought about by your belief that your way of thinking is the right one.
Brexit 2019: the Good, Bad and could-turn-Ugly options
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Are you sure about that?
UKIP are currently the largest British party in the European Parliament. They have 24 seats, compared to the Labour Party's 20, the Conservative Party's 19, the Green Party's 3, the SNP's 2 and 1 each for the Liberal Democrats, Sinn Fein, Plaid Cymru, DUP and UUP.
The reason for this is because UKIP won the 2014 EU elections in the UK with over 4.3 million votes, 26.6% of the total.
So it's no wonder that many in the Tory and Labour parties are rightly concerned that if Britain is still in the EU when the EU elections take place on 27th May their parties will suffer annihilation at the hands of Ukip.
It's funny that so many Remainers just aren't seeing the dangers that a delay to Brexit will pose to them. UKIP won the 2014 EU elections in the UK and it's safe to say they'll win in a massive landslide on 27th May if the UK is still in the EU then.
I thought you said the EU Parliament is undemocratic. What's UKIP doing in bed with that?
I wasn't aware that UKIP was Nazi. It might have Nazis within its ranks, I don't know, but I don't believe UKIP is Nazi as a party.
that said, its leadership appears lacking in a number of respects.
Laughing at Remainers:
Pro-Brexit comedian Geoff Norcott on EUvangelists:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lofa9-JEfw&t=11s
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British Parliament overwhelmingly rejects Theresa May��s Brexit deal, diminishing the chance of withdrawal on March 29
Three years after Britain voted to leave the E.U., lawmakers have failed to agree on how to do it.
Last-minute negotiations with the European Union were not enough to secure the support of hardliners in the prime minister��s own Conservative Party.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c=al_news__alert-world--alert-national&wpmk=1
Three years after Britain voted to leave the E.U., lawmakers have failed to agree on how to do it.
Last-minute negotiations with the European Union were not enough to secure the support of hardliners in the prime minister��s own Conservative Party.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c=al_news__alert-world--alert-national&wpmk=1
And tomorrow Parliament votes on a resolution refusing a 'no deal'. Which will of course pass.
So they will get an extension on Article 50, but since the EU knows the UK will not leave without a deal, so no deal
need be offered.
Eventually a second referendum will come along and Brexit will be reversed.
Makes you shake your head in disbelief.
So they will get an extension on Article 50, but since the EU knows the UK will not leave without a deal, so no deal
need be offered.
Eventually a second referendum will come along and Brexit will be reversed.
Makes you shake your head in disbelief.
There many presumptions there. Who says the next referendum (if there is one) will necessarily be between remain and Brexit? It could just as easily be a referendum on two different Brexit options.
Because the people screaming for a second referendum want a rerun to Remain, nothing else.
And so they won't support any other options.
The Remoaners don't want to refine Brexit as to what kind of deal... they want to stop it.
I think it will be 500 - 135 for refusing a 'No deal'. MPs in Parliament absolutely do not want to leave the EU.
A repeat of the last referendum would be a very bad move.That's the referendum that got them into this mess in the first place due to the ambiguity of the leave option. What happens if they vote again to leave? Back to square one. If they must include remain as an option, then at least present a more precise leave option than before. Maybe the leave option could be May.s negotiated plan, yet even that has its problems.
In the above scenario, both soft and hard Brexiteers would vote option 2, but soft Brexiteers would view that as an end goal whereas hard Brexiteers would view it as atransitional goal. In that case, you could imagine yet a third referendum five years later to decide between May.s plan (which Luke alreadybe on course by then) and unilateral global free trade ir some other kind of hard Brexit option. This won'tbe resolved quickly at all.
"What can you say about a nation that has 160 religions and only one sauce?" - famous French Chef
British Parliament rejects leaving E.U. without a deal, will vote Thursday on a delay
Lawmakers on Wednesday came out against a no-deal Brexit �� and the disruption of trade, travel and the economy to which it could lead. But the vote was largely symbolic. The default legal position is that Britain will leave without a deal on March 29. On Thursday, Parliament will vote on whether to request an extension, which would require approval by the leaders of the 27 other European Union
countries.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...b25d3aedc&wpisrc=al_world__alert-world&wpmk=1
For the most part, the United Kingdom is not nearly as integrated into the EU as Quebec is to Canada.
This gives us some idea of the chaos that would ensue if Quebec tried to separate. I can guarantee that even the most hardline separatists themselves would take forever even just to agree on a new Constitution, let alone the terms of separation.
Just like the EU towards the UK, Canada would be telling Quebec to get its act together and make up its mind as to what the heck it wants.
This gives us some idea of the chaos that would ensue if Quebec tried to separate. I can guarantee that even the most hardline separatists themselves would take forever even just to agree on a new Constitution, let alone the terms of separation.
Just like the EU towards the UK, Canada would be telling Quebec to get its act together and make up its mind as to what the heck it wants.
The Canadian Confederation has proven to be far more flexible than the EU and Quebec is able to exercise "limited nationalism" within the greater Canadian federation. Separatism is waning and the now old farts who perpetuated it while teaching in CEGEPS in the 1970s have all moved to Hollywood Florida to form their Quebecois Nation there, instead.
"They have not a clue............" . That was by a British reporter - didn't catch his name - being interviewed on CTV News today. Pretty well sums up what we are seeing with the Brexit fiasco so far. Sorry, BL but I did break out laughing when I heard that.
Quebec is not going to separate. The younger generations have a much more global view of Quebec's place in Canada and are comfortable with it. The PQ is bleeding candidates and is, as it should be, dieing a slow death.