What probably happened was the agents with the shooter in sight were probably working under rules of engagement and were waiting for authorization to engage . Ass covering probably kept that order from coming . I MHO
I won't argue that; I've thought as much soon as it happened.
Exactly my point.
Sadly.
And who after that was registered as a Republican? Who has been said to have been conservative by people who knew him?
I think that stuff trumps 15 bucks to a PAC.
We don't know for sure what he was.
What we do know is he was registered as a Republican and had Conservative stances.
True. But still...
Mixed messages from the Right? ... not so much. I've heard a lot of basically "Get the Left/Biden Ordered It" and trash like it. Not so much calls to chill things and not much call for saying what happened shouldn't have happened at all.
As for the target of the attack?
Hasn't even contacted the family of the man who died. Biden made an attempt, but the widow refused the call in honor of her husband's loyalty to Trump.
I think that still says it all right there who is the better human and better leader.
UBC prof celebrates Trump assassination attempt, then deletes social media
B.C. Conservative party leader John Rustad said 'this kind of radicalism' doesn’t belong in B.C. classrooms
Author of the articleenise Ryan
Published Jul 14, 2024 • Last updated 10 hours ago • 3 minute read
A screen capture of controversial comments made by UBC professor Karen Pinder on X. Pinder has since deleted all social media accounts.
A screen capture of controversial comments made by UBC professor Karen Pinder on X. Pinder has since deleted all social media accounts. Photo by X (formerly Twitter)
A UBC professor is under scrutiny after posting a tweet that appeared to celebrate the assassination attempt on former U.S. president Donald Trump, and another that lamented its failure.
“Damn, so close. Too bad,” Karen Pinder, a professor of teaching at UBC’s medical school, posted on X.
“What a glorious day this could have been!” she wrote in a subsequent tweet.
The tweets were published early Saturday. Pinder almost immediately deleted her account, but not before another user named @IR_AMauntie replied, “I reeeeeally wish the person had better aim.”
The exchange has prompted widespread calls for Pinder to be fired.
Kareem Allam, a Vancouver crisis PR expert, said the social media gaffe is potentially politically divisive for British Columbians already feeling the influence of U.S. style culture wars, in the lead up to the fall provincial election.
While B.C. Premier David Eby and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau both published statements on social media condemning the Trump shooting, Pinder’s tweet was seized upon by B.C. Conservative Leader John Rustad.
Rustad said “this kind of radicalism” doesn’t belong in B.C. classrooms, and retweeted the account of someone who called Pinder a monster and demanded she be fired.
“This is why so much hate and violence occurs in British Columbia,” wrote Conservative candidate Chris Sankey in reference to Pinder’s tweet.
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In a letter to UBC administrators, McGill medical and PhD student Jamie Magrill expressed concern for conservative UBC students. “How could a medical student from the U.S. who identifies as Republican feel safe in her class? A student who identifies as Conservative?”
Pinder’s tweet could drive Conservative anger in the province, and the party will target the provincial government because, although UBC is independent, it receives substantial provincial and federal funding, said Allam.
“The conservatives are running a populist anti-establishmentarian campaign, and here is a member of an established academic organization seemingly responsible for shaping future decision makers inciting violence or demonstrating gratification of violence,” said Allam.
Although Pinder’s tweet may not represent the university’s point of view, that’s how many are interpreting it and are demanding the university be held accountable, said Allam.
“University professors have a duty to provide context in times of crisis, rather than making divisive comments. What a university professor should be doing is analyzing and providing context, not piling on to what’s going on in the media, and that’s why the outrage is so strong,” said Allam.
Universities, like most employers, have code of conduct policies governing social media use, and Pinder deserves due process within the framework of that policy, said Allam.
The rules for people who are in the public eye are different than they are for those who are connected to high-profile institutions, said Allam.
“We are all entitled to our private thoughts but when you are attached to an institution like a university, you carry a lot of agency and the responsibility is higher.”
Mackenzie Irwin, an employment lawyer with Samfiru Tumarkin LLP’s labour and employment law group, said that although she can’t comment on Pinder’s case directly, employees can be terminated for cause, without severance, if their social media activity contravenes their employer’s social media policy and impacts its reputation.
“Employees need to be very cognizant of their social media use. A breach of social media policy is not necessarily ’cause.’ Cause depends on whether that post is impacting a company’s reputation and good will.”
This impact would be heightened if the employee has a high-profile position, and their social media accounts easily connect them to their employer.
Termination could depend on factors such as whether the institution has a robust social media policy, whether the employee had adequate social media training, and whether they had been given a warning and a chance to improve their behaviour.
In a statement on Sunday, UBC spokesperson Thandi Fletcher said, “The university is aware of Dr. Pinder’s post and is looking into the matter. The university does not condone violence of any kind.”
UBC would not confirm whether @IR_AMauntie, the account that replied to Pinder, belongs to a UBC researcher, citing the school’s privacy policy.
Postmedia reached out to Pinder and that researcher but did not receive a response.
Trudeau said he was sickened by the shooting, and that “violence is never acceptable.”
Eby expressed similar sentiments, stating in a tweet released shortly after the news broke, “No matter your politics, the attempted assassination of a former president and presidential candidate is horrific. The people of British Columbia abhor political violence in all its forms.”
dryan@postmedia.com
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Trump shooting: UBC prof celebrates assassination attempt, then deletes social media
A UBC prof is in hot water after posting a tweet that appeared to celebrate the assassination attempt of the former U.S. president. Read on.torontosun.com
Not until sentencing which by all accounts are dead in the water with the immunity rulingSo. . . he is a convicted felon?
Let's do this for a while. It's fun watching you dodge the plain truth.
Displaying more of your knowledge of American law?Not until sentencing which by all accounts are dead in the water with the immunity ruling
Minimum of10 years unless the Dems get their way and remove his security by lawWhy did you leave out the part about past presidents having life long SS protection ? Regardless in earlier posts in this thread I clearly stated that Trump would not have the same protection as a sitting president . You may understand the law which is why a good party apparatchik such as yourself should be nominated to a seat on the bench .
The jury found him guilty but of what? what was his sentence to make him convicted?Displaying more of your knowledge of American law?
Always good for a laugh.
Heh-heh. Priceless. Keep 'em coming!The jury found him guilty but of what? what was his sentence to make him convicted?
Except that The Donald is a former Prez. My understanding is that this entitles him to protection.I do understand the law. You don't.
Candidates are not provided SS protection until they are nominated by their parties. That's the way it works, regardless of the opinions of random Canadians who don't know the facts.
Like you and TB?Or who won't bother to look up those facts.
Like you and TB?
The jury found him guilty but of what? what was his sentence to make him convicted?