Do you have any comprehension of just how many of your precious tax dollars went away with this? You haven't a fvcking clue how bad this is on so many levels
BREAKING -- TransCanada Cancelling Two Major Pipeline Projects
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He thinks all the wind & solar he wants can be transported through the pipelines. Lol
Now that the Energy East Pipeline project is cancelled we can all take a deep breath and not fret about the possibility of spills on this great land.
Don't get too comfortable though, because the mode of transporting oil from Canadian competitors (Saudi Arabia and Venezuela) will still be moving super tankers up and down the east coast and through the St Lawrence Canal and into the largest fresh water supply in the world.
That's right, the Great Lakes, like Lake Ontario will continue to be the avenue in which fuel from foreign lands is brought in to feed Ontario, Quebec, and the maritime provinces.
So, when Premieres Kathleen Wynne and Philippe Couillard stand up and say how they saved their provinces from a possible spill, remember that they have been putting those places at higher risk of environmental catastrophe by opting to buy oil from foreign governments and shipping it through North America's most precious waterway.
I really dislike politicians and the foul stench of their spin doctoring. They are corrupt, liars and lack even an infinitesimal amount of integrity.
Don't get too comfortable though, because the mode of transporting oil from Canadian competitors (Saudi Arabia and Venezuela) will still be moving super tankers up and down the east coast and through the St Lawrence Canal and into the largest fresh water supply in the world.
That's right, the Great Lakes, like Lake Ontario will continue to be the avenue in which fuel from foreign lands is brought in to feed Ontario, Quebec, and the maritime provinces.
So, when Premieres Kathleen Wynne and Philippe Couillard stand up and say how they saved their provinces from a possible spill, remember that they have been putting those places at higher risk of environmental catastrophe by opting to buy oil from foreign governments and shipping it through North America's most precious waterway.
I really dislike politicians and the foul stench of their spin doctoring. They are corrupt, liars and lack even an infinitesimal amount of integrity.
Why would fuel for the maritimes be brought in by tanker going past the maritimes, to be then refined in Ontario and shipped to the maritimes?
It's so lovely seeing conservatives suddenly become so considerate about environmental concerns.
Let's hope this continues!
Let's hope this continues!
Don't be sad, why spend billions taking energy to a place destined to be an ice covered wasteland? The billions can be spent bringing the people to the place the energy is. Even then the place will have to be 'winterized' so the buildings are capable of being 'off the grid' as power-lines and freezing rain is not a good combination. There is no defense at the moment but of small vibrators were installed near the tops of the 'poles' the slight vibration would crack the collected ice on the tower and it should also cause the lines to oscillate just enough that ice buildup doesn't collapse the whole line as that takes months to repair.
The only question is do they choose to stop in places where workers gather or in places hobbies and recreation is attraction.
Could you break that down into smaller bites?
You have the attention span of a moth.
It (LNG) will come from the US from their fracked zones. US refineries will do the rest. (Quebec has been overcharging the US for power that comes from NFLD since the lines were build. They have a tendency to get revenge on the ones who take advantage of them.)
You won't because you have selective observation and you're an idiot. The 3 TCP guys on my hockey team who got lay-off notices sure will and so will their kids.
Did I say that? I said that fuel is brought in from our competitors. Ontario and Quebec have it shipped even further inland via the St Lawrence Canal and the Great Lakes.
Why do we shop crude to Texas (through a vast pipeline network) then buy it back?
Environmentalists....that's why.
Marten River and Englehart (two places in Northern Ontario where the 50-year-old gas pipe they want to repurpose has already blown out) will breathe easier. There were fewer complaints about a new purpose-built pipe among the locals - the best choice in my opinion - but it seems the shareholders want continuous returns
The material in a new line can be put in a lot faster and is even longer lasting. That won't mean heavy load roads won't be needed so updates will always be needed. Off the grid power would solve a lot of issues as long as electric motors were available as a usable solution. Lines and big gensets would be next to industrial zones.
Uh, yes you did say that:
"That's right, the Great Lakes, like Lake Ontario will continue to be the avenue in which fuel from foreign lands is brought in to feed Ontario, Quebec, and the maritime provinces."
Let's see: The fuel (ie, gasoline and diesel) sold in the maritimes comes from three places:
North Atlantic Refining in Come By Chance, NL
Irving Oil, in Saint John, NB
Valero in Levis, QC (in northern NB)
The LNG used in the maritimes comes from either offshore NS, or imported through the Repsol facility at Canaport. It's not brought in from the US.
I was trying to list the alternatives for what the cancelled lines were to bring in. I was also trying to point out that if big climate changes are possible with a few years it will be Canada east of Winnerpeg would be the places that are hardest hit while the west side of AB and BC will see their climate model gravitate towards being warmer.
NFLD needs to be able to be self sufficient as possible. NS is joint to the US at the hip so they have a means of finding help if/when it is needed.
Ontario would be more likely to use US supplies if lines from AB no longer function.
NFLD needs to be able to be self sufficient as possible. NS is joint to the US at the hip so they have a means of finding help if/when it is needed.
Ontario would be more likely to use US supplies if lines from AB no longer function.
Are they blue collar workers too?
Because that would be super tragic.
Oh look! The one beneficiary of this project confirms the obvious for all the conbots who forgot how an economy works..
"We believe it is clear that TransCanada is not proceeding with its application for the Energy East pipeline because recent changes to world market conditions and the price of oil have negatively impacted the viability of the project," said Gallant.
Brad Wall pits West against Ottawa as Energy East project killed - Politics - CBC News
Saudi Arabia is light oil
Russia has all grades
Nigeria trades their commodity as Bonny light Crude.
... So, you're wrong on only 3 of the 4 facts you posted... Not bad for an ecotard really
TCPL and Enbridge have bought a bunch on wind farms already... A big one on Ont that your provincial gubmint has guaranteed a long term ROI on.
hehehehehehe
I can't help but wonder if the NEB is charging those tanker supply groups a carbon tax, not only on the transport, but on the extraction activities as well.
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