Brazil Olympics 2016

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my husband told me he was watching a fly- over the area, seeing where the sewage was all over the ocean,

and lots of garbage floating around as well.

don't know how far and wide this pollution is, but I'm sure glad I'm not going anywhere near the place.

this looks like it was a very very bad decision made to have the Olympics in rio.

hope they learn something for the future, but there is so much money and politics involved,

which far outweighs any thought to being concerned about human health and security.

I hope everyone gets out of there safely, 'then' continues their lives without any health issues.
 

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Rio Olympic sailing venue leaves boats 'completely brown' with pollution

'It shouldn't be like this anywhere. It shouldn't be this dirty,' says Finnish sailor

The Associated Press Posted: Jul 04, 2016 8:27 PM ET Last Updated: Jul 04, 2016 8:27 PM ET




Pollution in Rio de Janeiro's Guanabara Bay continues to be a source of angst for athletes expected to compete in its filthy waters during next month's Olympics. (Matthew Stockman/Getty Images)


A new pollution problem has surfaced in Guanabara Bay, the venue for sailing at the Rio de Janeiro Olympics.

Sailors complained Monday about an oil slick that turned white boats brown with crews in the water practicing for the Olympics, which begin on Aug. 5.

"We've never seen anything like this. It was all over the place," said Finnish sailor Camilla Cedercreutz. "There was no way you could avoid it."

Cedercreutz said the slick filled part of the bay on Sunday, staining her boat from bow to stern.

"This is only our second time in Rio," said Cedercreutz. "We've heard it was really bad. You get mad because it shouldn't be like this anywhere. It shouldn't be this dirty. But there's nothing we can do about it."

'A lot of dead fish'

Cedercreutz's sailing partner Noora Ruskola said other sailors told her: "Your boat looks like a toilet."

Guanabara Bay is severely polluted, filled with bacteria and viruses. However, sailors have less frequently complained about industrial pollution in the giant bay.

Spanish sailor Jordi Xammar, who will compete in the 470 class, said he saw the slick "and tried to avoid it."

"The boats were completely brown," he said. "But the worst thing was we saw a lot of dead fish."

Xammar said this is his fourth time in Rio, and he's seen the water "improve a bit. It was yellow-green last year."

Plenty of pathogens?

It's yet another issue added to a long list of problems confronting South America's first Olympic Games: the Zika virus, rising crime and violence, budget cuts and lacklustre ticket sales.

The sporting events will also begin with Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff facing an impeachment trial and Brazil mired in its deepest recession in decades.​

Rio organizing committee officials say the venue is safe, although independent studies by The Associated Press show high level of pathogens — microorganisms that can cause disease — in waters that Rio is using for sailing, rowing, canoeing and open-water swimming.

World Sailing, the governing body of the sport, said Monday it was "not in a position to comment."

Dead body washed up on the volleyball beach today.

Body parts wash up on Rio beach as gun violence continues

Human remains found near Olympic venue in Copacabana

The Associated Press Posted: Jun 29, 2016 10:36 PM ET Last Updated: Jun 29, 2016 10:36 PM ET



On Wednesday, police in Brazil confirmed a human foot and other body parts washed up from the sea and were found near a beach volleyball site in Rio. (Felipe Dana/Associated Press)

Police attempts to recapture a drug trafficker who escaped from a Brazilian hospital have led to more than a week of deadly gun battles in the slums of Rio de Janeiro, which is hosting the Olympics in August.

With violence raising concerns about security during the international sporting event, police near the Olympic beach volleyball venue in Copacabana also told the Associated Press on Wednesday that a foot and other body parts had been found on the shore. The officers said the parts washed up from the sea, but offered no further details.

Ten people have been killed and about 50 schools have been shuttered over the past nine days because of shootings triggered by the police searches, the newspaper O Globo said. Police would not confirm the death toll, but said they had deployed 27 battalions of military police to various areas, including Rio's downtown and its southern area, which is known for tourists.

Nicolas Labre Pereira, nicknamed "Fat Family," escaped on June 19 when assailants stormed one of the hospitals recommended for tourists traveling to the Olympic Games. The raid to free the 28-year-old suspect left a patient dead while a nurse and an off-duty policeman were wounded.

Money needed for security

Other violent incidents are also causing worries about safety during the Olympics. Last weekend, an off-duty bodyguard for Rio's mayor was shot to death in an apparent mugging and a doctor was slain in her car on a main expressway. Earlier this month, members of the Australian Paralympic team were mugged at gunpoint.

Officials have warned that budget shortfalls may compromise security.

An estimated 85,000 police officers and soldiers will be patrolling the streets during the Olympics and Paralympics, but Rio de Janeiro state's acting governor says the state is still waiting for 2.9 billion Brazilian reals ($1.114 billion) from the federal government that is earmarked for security efforts.

"The financial aspect is the big problem of Rio's public safety strategy," said Andrei Rodrigues, a top security official at the Justice Ministry who is responsible for big events.

Killings in Rio increased to 2,036 in the first four months of the year, compared to 1,818 for the same period in 2015, according to a state tally that counts homicides, officer-involved killings and deaths as a result of robberies.
 

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I suppose they might be interesting and entertaining as long as neither of our countries highly-trained and publicly supported athletes - to the tune of millions of taxpayers dollars - are not among those being infected, mugged, hacked-up or shot to death. The Russians just might be the lucky ones being that they are banned from the games.

So much for our athletes being able to see some of the country while they are down there participating in the games. Bad enough they could come home with some horrible disease - leaving the confines of their billets to do a bit of sight-seeing just might mean a trip to the morgue.
 

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I suppose they might be interesting and entertaining as long as neither of our countries highly-trained and publicly supported athletes - to the tune of millions of taxpayers dollars - are not among those being infected, mugged, hacked-up or shot to death. The Russians just might be the lucky ones being that they are banned from the games.

So much for our athletes being able to see some of the country while they are down there participating in the games. Bad enough they could come home with some horrible disease - leaving the confines of their billets to do a bit of sight-seeing just might mean a trip to the morgue.

and who might carry deseases back to their home countries, to be spread around.
 

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Drug-resistant bacteria on Rio beaches likely won’t impact Olympics: expert

Meredith MacLeod, CTVNews.ca
Published Tuesday, July 5, 2016 7:06PM EDT
Last Updated Tuesday, July 5, 2016 9:39PM EDT

The presence of drug-resistant bacteria on the beaches beside a bay that will host Olympic sailing events next month is no surprise but may have little impact on the athletes and visitors descending on Rio de Janeiro, says a Canadian bacteria expert.

The health issues in Rio’s Guanabara Bay were well known by Olympic health officials during the London Games in 2012, says Jason Tetro, a Toronto-based microbiologist. But he says officials were too late in putting the necessary sanitation infrastructure in place for such a large city.

The Brazilian metropolis of about 6 million people only treats about half of its sewage before dumping it into local waterways. A group of Brazilian scientists who have been studying super bacteria in the coastal waters is blaming hospital waste, infected with so-called superbugs, for the drug-resistant microbes found on Rio’s beaches.

While it can make for an unpleasant environment, Tetro doesn’t expect it to have a large impact on the Games.

“I was (in Rio) in August of last year and I can tell you there were numerous places where the smell of sewers was almost intolerable, and we’re talking even Copacabana Beach,” he told CTV News Channel Tuesday.

“It is a bit distressing but it may not totally impact the Games.”

Tetro, author of “The Germ Files” and “The Germ Code,” says health officials will be on the lookout for symptoms of infection among the population. Competitors face some risk but visitors will not.

Tetro expects no more than a handful of competitors to fall ill but says any level of infection will be hard to eradicate.

“Once these bacteria get into our bodies, whether we have the strongest Olympic immune system or we have a very weak, immuno-compromised one, if you get enough of them inside of you there is going to be trouble. If they happen to be antimicrobial resistant, it’s going to be very difficult to get rid of them.”

Renata Picao, a professor at Rio Federal University who is among the scientists studying Rio's water quality, says it's not clear what the level of risk is for athletes. She told CTV News Channel that the pathogens can lead to pneumonia and infections in the blood stream and urinary tract. She said any athletes with compromised immune systems should be cautious.

“We don’t have a risk assessment. If we knew the actual risk involved, then these waters wouldn’t be classified as suitable for bathing. But as we do not have this kind of result yet, we cannot say the waters are unsuitable.”

Picao advised athletes to avoid ingesting the water and to advise a physician they may have been exposed to drug-resistant bacteria.
The bacteria problem is one among a host of issues dogging the Rio Olympics. A number of elite athletes have pulled out of the Games over fears about the Zika virus, concerns are rising about a swell in local crime, a crucial subway line will open just days before the Aug. 5 opening ceremonies and the state of Rio is in the midst of an economic crisis that has meant many public workers, including police and firefighters, have not been paid.

Drug-resistant bacteria on Rio beaches likely won’t impact Olympics: expert | CTV News

Just love all the qualifiers... likely won't, may not, might not, should not, some. They can't say the waters are unsuitable because they simply don't know if they or they aren't. Lovely, just lovely.
 

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for when you have bio weapons, but have blown your wad and still don't have a delivery system:
have an Olympics and invite your targets over to swim in your petri dish
 

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After Rio, Olympics headed for downsize

Stephen Brunt July 13, 2016, 4:30 PM


Well yes, they shot the mascot, so that’s something different.

Not the actual mascot, not one of those poor shmucks who gets to spend months locked inside a faux-fur costume, striking amusing poses and terrifying small children. As of now, all versions of Ginga, the official cartoon jaguar of the Rio Olympics, are in good health, but an actual jaguar, named Juma, was shot by a police officer during a segment of the torch relay in Manaus after it somehow escaped and then approached the cop aggressively.

So let’s add that to the Zika virus, the open sewer of a harbour where the sailors and triathletes will compete, the street crime that has already made a victim of an Australian para-athlete and the financial and political chaos that includes a president facing impeachment, many other politicians facing indictments and the declaration of a “state of public calamity” in Rio de Janeiro, with a top state official adding that it is on the verge of “social collapse.” (Apparently, Brazilian politicians do not mince words.)

Extraordinary stuff… at least by degrees. But the notion that an Olympic city is going to hell in a handbasket in the weeks before the Games—that this time, for sure, all will be chaos—is almost as predictable as the script for the opening ceremony.

It happens nearly every time, sometimes in relatively benign form (the melting snows before Vancouver Whistler 2010), sometimes in more ominous tones. A lot of people thought that Athens was utterly unprepared to host the Summer Games in 2004, for instance, and that the expense of that great extravaganza would all but bankrupt the Greek government. Visitors to the city a few months before those Olympics saw what looked like a not-all-that-busy construction site. Yet somehow, with a few coats of paint and a bit of overtime, they got the place in shape, and the Games went relatively smoothly (though if you want to connect the dots, it’s not that tough to find your way from the 2004 Olympics to the 2009 Greek debt crisis.

They light the cauldron, and it disperses whatever that magic, happy gas is that sparks peace and bliss and pride and tolerance and contentment for 17 days. The citizens of the host country expunge all cynicism and find their eyes filling with tears; television viewers around the globe are inspired by a new generation of fresh-faced athletes, many of them competing in events which would draw almost zero interest in any other context; the networks and sponsors breathe a great sigh of relief knowing that their massive investment was sound; and the folks in Lausanne smile a secret smile. (Is that a pure and moral thing? Is it justified by trotting out Pierre de Coubertin’s 19th-century notion of Olympism? Nope. Is it worse than a host of other empty spectacles that move our hearts and empty our wallets in the name of something that may or may not really be for the greater good? That’s a great debating point.)

Probably—though not certainly—that’s what’s going to happen again. A few money shots of Sugarloaf and the big Jesus, a little dash of Usain Bolt, some local heroes, some profiles in courage, and we will all be swept away once more.

With one great big caveat.

There are signs everywhere that the Olympic business has entered its late, declining stage. The decadent past, when every Games had to be bigger and better and more extravagant than the one before—if you weren’t willing to promise that, then don’t even bother bidding—is done. So is the time when broadcast-rights fees and sponsor revenues appeared to have no ceiling. Perhaps it’s not quite the Austerity Games yet, but we are already at the point when very few countries in which the leadership is accountable to its populace will take on the financial and political risk of staging the Olympics. That was most evident in the bidding for the 2020 Winter Olympics, which everyone assumed would be going to Norway, hosts of the nearly perfect Lillehammer Games in 1994. But the citizens there said no in a referendum, leaving only China and Kazakhstan in the race.

The IOC didn’t quite hold its nose when announcing Beijing as the winner, because they knew that, just as with Sochi 2014, an authoritarian government will offer a blank cheque and put on a great show while brooking no dissent. Still, it was obvious that the end of the line is within sight. What’s left behind in Brazil, even if the Games themselves come off without a hitch, isn’t going to be pretty, and will serve as yet another cautionary tale. (And we haven’t even mentioned the forever-unbottled genie that is doping.)

The mantra is going to have to change from “bigger, flashier, costlier” to “reuse, recycle, downscale,” resulting in more modest Games, in places where they’ve been before, where the infrastructure already exists—yes, think Calgary 2026.

Someone will still pay the piper. But it will be nickels instead of dimes.

After Rio, Olympics headed for downsize - Sportsnet.ca
 

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After Rio, Olympics headed for downsize

Stephen Brunt July 13, 2016, 4:30 PM


Well yes, they shot the mascot, so that’s something different.

Not the actual mascot, not one of those poor shmucks who gets to spend months locked inside a faux-fur costume, striking amusing poses and terrifying small children. As of now, all versions of Ginga, the official cartoon jaguar of the Rio Olympics, are in good health, but an actual jaguar, named Juma, was shot by a police officer during a segment of the torch relay in Manaus after it somehow escaped and then approached the cop aggressively.

So let’s add that to the Zika virus, the open sewer of a harbour where the sailors and triathletes will compete, the street crime that has already made a victim of an Australian para-athlete and the financial and political chaos that includes a president facing impeachment, many other politicians facing indictments and the declaration of a “state of public calamity” in Rio de Janeiro, with a top state official adding that it is on the verge of “social collapse.” (Apparently, Brazilian politicians do not mince words.)

Extraordinary stuff… at least by degrees. But the notion that an Olympic city is going to hell in a handbasket in the weeks before the Games—that this time, for sure, all will be chaos—is almost as predictable as the script for the opening ceremony.

It happens nearly every time, sometimes in relatively benign form (the melting snows before Vancouver Whistler 2010), sometimes in more ominous tones. A lot of people thought that Athens was utterly unprepared to host the Summer Games in 2004, for instance, and that the expense of that great extravaganza would all but bankrupt the Greek government. Visitors to the city a few months before those Olympics saw what looked like a not-all-that-busy construction site. Yet somehow, with a few coats of paint and a bit of overtime, they got the place in shape, and the Games went relatively smoothly (though if you want to connect the dots, it’s not that tough to find your way from the 2004 Olympics to the 2009 Greek debt crisis.

They light the cauldron, and it disperses whatever that magic, happy gas is that sparks peace and bliss and pride and tolerance and contentment for 17 days. The citizens of the host country expunge all cynicism and find their eyes filling with tears; television viewers around the globe are inspired by a new generation of fresh-faced athletes, many of them competing in events which would draw almost zero interest in any other context; the networks and sponsors breathe a great sigh of relief knowing that their massive investment was sound; and the folks in Lausanne smile a secret smile. (Is that a pure and moral thing? Is it justified by trotting out Pierre de Coubertin’s 19th-century notion of Olympism? Nope. Is it worse than a host of other empty spectacles that move our hearts and empty our wallets in the name of something that may or may not really be for the greater good? That’s a great debating point.)

Probably—though not certainly—that’s what’s going to happen again. A few money shots of Sugarloaf and the big Jesus, a little dash of Usain Bolt, some local heroes, some profiles in courage, and we will all be swept away once more.

With one great big caveat.

There are signs everywhere that the Olympic business has entered its late, declining stage. The decadent past, when every Games had to be bigger and better and more extravagant than the one before—if you weren’t willing to promise that, then don’t even bother bidding—is done. So is the time when broadcast-rights fees and sponsor revenues appeared to have no ceiling. Perhaps it’s not quite the Austerity Games yet, but we are already at the point when very few countries in which the leadership is accountable to its populace will take on the financial and political risk of staging the Olympics. That was most evident in the bidding for the 2020 Winter Olympics, which everyone assumed would be going to Norway, hosts of the nearly perfect Lillehammer Games in 1994. But the citizens there said no in a referendum, leaving only China and Kazakhstan in the race.

The IOC didn’t quite hold its nose when announcing Beijing as the winner, because they knew that, just as with Sochi 2014, an authoritarian government will offer a blank cheque and put on a great show while brooking no dissent. Still, it was obvious that the end of the line is within sight. What’s left behind in Brazil, even if the Games themselves come off without a hitch, isn’t going to be pretty, and will serve as yet another cautionary tale. (And we haven’t even mentioned the forever-unbottled genie that is doping.)

The mantra is going to have to change from “bigger, flashier, costlier” to “reuse, recycle, downscale,” resulting in more modest Games, in places where they’ve been before, where the infrastructure already exists—yes, think Calgary 2026.

Someone will still pay the piper. But it will be nickels instead of dimes.

After Rio, Olympics headed for downsize - Sportsnet.ca

sounds good to me, what they have been doing is ridiculous, I like the amateur athletes, the more
traditional look, and who cares about outdoing the last city, go the other way, and begin undoing
the last city, and lets get simpler.
 

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sounds good to me, what they have been doing is ridiculous, I like the amateur athletes, the more
traditional look, and who cares about outdoing the last city, go the other way, and begin undoing
the last city, and lets get simpler.
Like FIFA it's probably a cash cow for the committee members.
 

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sounds good to me, what they have been doing is ridiculous, I like the amateur athletes, the more
traditional look, and who cares about outdoing the last city, go the other way, and begin undoing
the last city, and lets get simpler.

I was thinking the very same thing, talloola. Just as I am doing now, in the run-up to the Sochi Olympics, I read every news story I could find on what was actually happening on the ground. How people were being thrown out of the homes, off their land - whole apartment blocks leveled with little or no compensation to the owners/residents. Corruption was rampant. The Russian government spent multi-millions of dollars building a road that was never completed. They were the most expensive Olympics ever held - to this day the final tally has never been revealed.

As much as I enjoyed our Vancouver Olympics - I was against the idea from the time it was first proposed. The only Olympic event I would support our province hosting would have to be held where facilities are all ready available and little if any structural enhancements would be needed. I also like the idea of fewer events as it is hard to follow everything that is going on as things stand now. Fewer events would mean wider coverage for all events.
 

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Majority of Brazilians think Rio Olympics will cause more harm than good

Security, financial issues prompt Brazilians to oppose Summer Games

Jul 19, 01:08 PM ET



Two weeks away from the Olympics, nearly two out of three Brazilians believe that hosting them will cause the country more harm than good, an opinion poll said Tuesday as worries grow over crime and budget cuts.

Half of the people surveyed by Datafolha pollster oppose the big sporting event. The disapproval has doubled in three years, and the frustration is even greater in south and southeast Brazil, which includes the host city Rio de Janeiro.

The popularity of the Games has dropped dramatically as Brazil weathers a two-year-long recession, and unemployment and inflation shoot up.

Rio de Janeiro is one of the hardest-hit states. Plunging oil prices and a massive kickback scheme at state oil company Petrobras have depleted the state's accounts so severely that the state's acting governor declared financial disaster in June. The move gave officials the freedom to manage shrinking resources without breaking fiscal laws and opened the way for the federal government to send an aid package of $860 million US to pay for security during the event.

About 85,000 police and soldiers will be working during the Games, twice the security contingent of London 2012, but experts worry about public safety after the event ends. Rio's murder and robbery rates have already gone up this year.

More than half of Brazilians think that the city's security problems are a cause of shame. Officers have staged protests to complain about salary delays and poor working conditions, with police stations missing basic items such as toilet paper.

At a recent demonstration in the airport, one group of police held signs in English reading "Welcome to Hell."

The state has also been skipping payments to teachers and retired workers.

On Monday, teachers protested outside the training camp for Brazil's soccer team, showing banners to the arriving players that read "Money only for Olympics. No money for public education."

Two tramcars of Rio's new light-service rail system built downtown as a legacy project for the Games were vandalized on Monday with spray-painted messages: "Fancy Transportation. Trashy Hospitals. What kind of country is that?"

"The amount that was spent on the Olympics could have helped hospitals that are closing," said Jessica Azevedo, a 23-year-old woman who works downtown. "They should have thought about public health and education first. That's where we are suffering."

Datafolha interviewed 2,792 people between July 14 and 15 in 171 cities. The margin of error was two percentage points.

The Associated Press

Majority of Brazilians think Rio Olympics will cause more harm than good


 

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I hear they're gonna do a special gold medal for "Surviving the Toxins, Violence, and Corruption."

The athlete who comes through the Games least dead, sick, or robbed wins.
 

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There were loads of scare-stories in the lead up to the 2010 World Cup in South Africa yet that ended up passing okay.