Blue Lives Matter!! Cop dies where's the outrage??

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This thread is about honoring Police Officer, first responders.. don't like it, don't click on it..
Honouring them?
can we honour living Officers,or only dead ones?I have some happy stories which involve Officers who have done great things in the line of duty,I would like to honour them,can I?
certainly I believe in honouring them by bringing the issue to an audience,educating,but the multiple blogs is getting me down.Could we start an honour system of bringing honourable mention to Officers who bring a smile to our faces.
My apoligies if I offended you.
 

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My apoligies if I offended you.

You're not offending me at all.. it's you that doesn't understand the correlation between Black Lives Matter and Blue Lives Matter, well.

People will riot, loot and become stupid cop haters when a black thug is killed by a cop.. however the silence and protest towards focusing on the police being slaughter speak volumes.

P.S. don't see you posting anything good about the police.. start posting.
 

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the silence and protest towards focusing on the police being slaughter speak volumes



I certainly do not know of anyone celebrating police deaths if that is what you are implying.

Tonight's tv news began with the disaster in Philadelphia and then turned to police week ceremonies in Washington DC. We lost a police officer from this neighborhood (this is a matter I mentioned a long while ago on another thread) and then the local news sources followed through with the honoring of that officer. While you insist that people remain silent when cops are killed, again I answer that we have had police funerals covered live on local tv. I do not know if this is what happens in other areas but it does happen here (an urban area of well over three million people) so that it belies your idea that people remain silent. It is simply not true.
 

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People will riot, loot and become stupid cop haters when a black thug is killed by a cop.. however the silence and protest towards focusing on the police being slaughter speak volumes.

P.S. don't see you posting anything good about the police




Riots and other animosity towards cops?

No question that there is a considerable amount of that in this society (can't speak for Canada So I'll restrict my thoughts to what goes on here). The reasons for this are numerable as has been discussed on other threads: in this society we have,

* the Mark Fuhrmann's who laugh about the crimes they commit against blacks which result in the cost to the taxpayers of LA $25 million.

* the police fabricated Wilding incident which never took place but set the entire USA into shock and racial division - and which later cost the taxpayers of NYC over $35 million

* police corruption in Philadelphia as I reported in the book thread (Ruderman & Laker) and the police terrorist attack on the Move Cult

* an endless array of videos showing police planting "evidence" in every corner of the USA

* "I can't breathe" as the murderous cop is shown laughing at the camera

* and thousands of innocent people now being released through the Innocents Project and others like it (no telling how many thousands of people went to their execution or died in prison through the seemingly endless cases of police corruption)




There is no question that some police are heroic and dedicated public servants. Same with fire fighters, rescue workers, doctors, Coast Guard rescue, military personnel, and ordinary citizens who sacrifice all for the good of society. But you do not see organized groups of people such as cafeteria workers, laundry men & women, or highway laborers conspiring to kill off people, force them to confess to crimes they never committed, shake down innocent store clerks, or charge innocents with imaginary crimes. If it was a matter of only one or two cops who committed these atrocities then we would never see mass protests against police abuses. But it remains a fact that police corruption is highly pervasive in our society. Because of these corrupt practices taxpayers have been burdened with paying multiples of millions of dollars in damages from lawsuits against cops. It is a good bet that if cafeteria & laundry workers, and highway laborers committed these atrocities society would be up in arms against them. But you will never see it happen because these people are not responsible for crimes and other corrupt practices which harm society.


Two wrongs do not make a right and I certainly am not going to defend riotous behavior. But let's be honest and admit that these are a reaction to the evils caused by police. Stop the police crimes, bring about true justice in society, and order will certainly follow. After all, as it is written in the Bible, in the writings of Cicero, in the writings of Erasmus, and in the writings of our Founding Fathers, justice must first exist so that order can prevail.





Meanwhile here in St Paul, fallen police were honored in an annual ceremony:



St. Paul police officers who died on duty honored in ceremony - TwinCities.com


Local media gave this extensive coverage and rightfully so.
 

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I myself do not hate cops
They will always be a necessary evil in civilization.
I simply do not believe a word that ever comes out of a cops mouth even if they're standing in front of a judge with their hand on a stack of Bibles.
 

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From my email collection.........


Police Retraining


Now let me see if I have this right.
There's no guidance or discipline in the home.
The family situation is so unstable, 'Junior' doesn't even know where or to whom to send a Father's Day card.
Junior gets dumped into the education system where he is socially promoted because the overwhelmed school district can't deal with the undisciplined whelp.
Junior's major formative influences are 'gangsta' rap videos and a corresponding peer group of gangsta wannabes.

At age 18, Junior is turned loose on society carrying a bad attitude, a broken compass and little respect for authority.
Junior gets himself in big trouble with the law and meets dire consequences.
Then, the situation diagnosis is that the
police need more training and understanding?
Pardon me for asking, but do you really believe this bullsh*t?
 

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~ more training and understanding ~



It is no bullsh*t that Mark Fuhrmann cost LA over $25 million and NYC police cost that city's taxpayers $35 million when they fabricated the Wilding incident that never took place. It is a good bet that if it were not for their corruption both cities would have saved $60 million. Add to this sum all the costs associated with police corruption in other cities and the totals would exceed the GDP of most countries world wide.
 

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You're not offending me at all.. it's you that doesn't understand the correlation between Black Lives Matter and Blue Lives Matter, well.

People will riot, loot and become stupid cop haters when a black thug is killed by a cop.. however the silence and protest towards focusing on the police being slaughter speak volumes.

P.S. don't see you posting anything good about the police.. start posting.
everything matters and more so everything is symptomatic of the problems of the world.
I find the world and news to be overwhelming taxing on my perspective,therefore I am the Queen of denial,my life seems to be filled with enough tears,regrets,hositility.
I tend to ignore world events which tug on my heart.Noone in their right mind wants to believe a life is not worthy ,and more so a life which takes on the role of protecting the public is clearly a tragedy of society as a whole.
I work in a constant grief cycle,I can only give so much grief.
In my information auditing days I tended to have a curosity of management role in disorganization and corruption within the police force,I could in the end results,clearly distinguish management has a huge role in the contributionof safety of lower rank Officers and more so had a huge responsibility in defining the publics respect and perspective of these Officers,what I was able to determine is higher rank decsion makers have not taken these roles of responsibility serious or on the correct path of Justice.
The publics apathy can be directly related to Higher rank decison makers inability to respond correctly to situations which deserved attention.
What question I was left with upon completion of my information audiing is how am I or any of the citizens of Canada to have respect for an agency which demonstrates no respect for its own Officers.
If politics comes before the well being of Officers and the Public,then why should society care?
Don't get me wrong, i have huge respect but I struggle with some of the ways of law enforcement and decison making,I always feel great compassion for lower ranks Officers,not so much for higher level decison makers
Public support decline and malaise can be easily tracked to where attitudes or disinterest began some many years ago.Deaths of Officers is becoming symptomatic of these times.
Myself I would cry like a baby if my friends were killed in the "line of duty",I don't have a lot of tears to go around.
there seems like there is so much to feel about in this world,sometimes too much.........this means I must go to the cabin ASAP.
I can talk about alot of good people who serve but it is all trival in the scheme of things,I hope you feel better.
 

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I have some good news about law enforcement,this news should make everyone feel better.
Recent headlines state the RCMP failed their members by not providing adequate protection,I understand there is implementation of legal action,this is a good thing.This is good news for Canadians and more so the individuals who serve within the RCMP.

What has been demonstrated under the "whiskey and water" regime of management of Justice in this great country,is how simple common curtosities of applying the Charter, protection and safety become secondary and tainted in the game of movement of the political ladder,recipical realationships are formed,process's become dominated by shareholders,stakeholders are secondary,politcal policy meddles in Justice,legislation is shaped by influences of not of public interest,( which are way too many influences to mention is this short forum discussion).Associations,communities are weakened by the "whiskey and water" game ,recipical relationships are formed and stregnthened,only the high end has access to these relationships.In due time Officers are being placed in harms way,part of the recipical agreements are formed by giveth and taketh,these agreements are difficult to sustain,safety suffers as a result.Unfortunately sometimes and in most times it seems lately Civil action is the only means to navigate to what seems terribly neglected and overlooked on how importance of funding is spent and more so distributed.I have been advocating more civil action for correction,attempting to have access any other avenues means you must go into recipical agreements,this is touch in the world of dominance of decison making.
This news was a good day for Canada, and more so the RCMP.
Another worthy piece of good news(this is for you boomer) is the Police Association downcasted Commissioner Paulson of the RCMP,as a seasoned information auditor that had a big interest into process's of Justice,and the recipical agreements which are formed,(Provincial and Federal),including the Commissioners Office,I am here to tell you Commissioner Paulson is the best thing that has happened to the RCMP in the last 25 years,I am not sure if this is bad or good,then again I don't know if this is true.I quit information auditing the RCMP shortly after Commissioner arrived,I think I was just so disgusted with the information I gleaned,this is why I quit snooping,I found it freaky,I questioned who was protecting lower ranks emotinally and physically,I saw turncoats,I was tired,........but what I did see of Commissioner Paulson, I recognized a change,then again what do I know.I can talk about time periods where recipical agreements were built,when safety and weakened process' started,but I will spare you.I am not sure political meddling in the application of Justice is possible,then again I see Mr. Paulson very loyal to his members.I think the law suit is something he likes too.
there you go Boomer,is this what you like?
 

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more good news for justice and administration of law,something more we can rejoice about.
I am not sure of the details,or who or what is initating same,but there is some law action,sueing?in regards to the Khadr ordeal,not sure if it is civil or what,or maybe implemented to re-write history,who knows.
As an information junkie,I plan on watching the design of information regarding this case.I have an idea what the design may look like.

who knows in the scheme of the navigation possibly the Canadian governement could be implicated in legal proceedings,possibly the Americans will end of suing the Canadian governement for civil matters,this is an important case for justice and more so investigations and proceedings into the application of investigation practices of the military.Families who have been cheated of fair process should have keen interest in this case.I think Canadians will be surprised by the collection and handling of informaiton,or will they.Once again civil action is the only salvation to truth.
the announcement of the implementation of legal action is a good day for Justice
 

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Cleveland officer Michael Brelo found not guilty in fatal shooting of two people



By Kimbriell Kelly May 23




A Cleveland police officer was acquitted today for his role in the 2012 fatal shooting of two unarmed people in a car after officers mistook the sound of the car backfiring as gunshots.
After a four-week trial, a judge found officer Michael Brelo, 31, not guilty of two counts of felony voluntary manslaughter in the deaths of Timothy Russell, 43, and Malissa Williams, 30. Russell and Williams were killed Nov. 29, 2012, after they led 62 police vehicles on a chase across Cleveland.
Prosecutions of officers for the use of deadly force are rare given there have been thousands of fatal police shootings in the past decade. When criminal charges have been pursued, officers have most often been acquitted or cleared, according to a recent analysis by the Washington Posthttp://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2015/04/11/thousands-dead-few-prosecuted/ in conjunction with criminologist Philip M. Stinson and researchers at Bowling Green University.
Since 2005, 54 officers have been charged criminally for shooting and killing someone in the line of duty, the analysis found. Of the 35 cases that had been resolved, 21 officers were acquitted or saw their charges dropped, 11 cases resulted in convictions, and in three cases the officers entered guilty pleas and were placed on probation. Brelo is the second officer in Ohio to face charges in a decade. The other officer also was acquitted.
Brelo, a seven-year veteran, is the first of six Cleveland officers to be prosecuted in the 2012 fatal shooting of Russell and Williams. Five police supervisors — none of whom fired shots — also each face misdemeanor counts for “dereliction of duty.” No trial dates have been set.
When Russell’s Chevy Malibu finally came to a stop in East Cleveland, 13 officers opened fire, shooting at least 137 rounds into the vehicle. Brelo, prosecutors said, was the only one who continued to shoot after the threat was over. He climbed onto the hood of the Malibu and shot 15 rounds into the windshield, striking Russell, who was driving, and Williams, who was in the passenger seat.
The prosecution of Brelo has largely escaped national headlines. It comes at a time of growing national scrutiny of the use of force by law enforcement against people, especially minorities. Brelo is white and the two victims were black.


Cleveland officer Michael Brelo found not guilty in fatal shooting of two people - The Washington Post
 

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Cleveland officer Michael Brelo found not guilty in fatal shooting of two people



By Kimbriell Kelly May 23




A Cleveland police officer was acquitted today for his role in the 2012 fatal shooting of two unarmed people in a car after officers mistook the sound of the car backfiring as gunshots.
After a four-week trial, a judge found officer Michael Brelo, 31, not guilty of two counts of felony voluntary manslaughter in the deaths of Timothy Russell, 43, and Malissa Williams, 30. Russell and Williams were killed Nov. 29, 2012, after they led 62 police vehicles on a chase across Cleveland.
Prosecutions of officers for the use of deadly force are rare given there have been thousands of fatal police shootings in the past decade. When criminal charges have been pursued, officers have most often been acquitted or cleared, according to a recent analysis by the Washington Posthttp://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2015/04/11/thousands-dead-few-prosecuted/ in conjunction with criminologist Philip M. Stinson and researchers at Bowling Green University.
Since 2005, 54 officers have been charged criminally for shooting and killing someone in the line of duty, the analysis found. Of the 35 cases that had been resolved, 21 officers were acquitted or saw their charges dropped, 11 cases resulted in convictions, and in three cases the officers entered guilty pleas and were placed on probation. Brelo is the second officer in Ohio to face charges in a decade. The other officer also was acquitted.
Brelo, a seven-year veteran, is the first of six Cleveland officers to be prosecuted in the 2012 fatal shooting of Russell and Williams. Five police supervisors — none of whom fired shots — also each face misdemeanor counts for “dereliction of duty.” No trial dates have been set.
When Russell’s Chevy Malibu finally came to a stop in East Cleveland, 13 officers opened fire, shooting at least 137 rounds into the vehicle. Brelo, prosecutors said, was the only one who continued to shoot after the threat was over. He climbed onto the hood of the Malibu and shot 15 rounds into the windshield, striking Russell, who was driving, and Williams, who was in the passenger seat.
The prosecution of Brelo has largely escaped national headlines. It comes at a time of growing national scrutiny of the use of force by law enforcement against people, especially minorities. Brelo is white and the two victims were black.


Cleveland officer Michael Brelo found not guilty in fatal shooting of two people - The Washington Post
Wrong thread.