Blizzard kills 60,000 cattle in South Dakota

petros

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I'm from Alberta so this is stupid question from the get-go.
Do American cattle not know about huddling and putting you *** to the wind? That looks like snow that is stick so that is a mild wind, bitter cold granulates snow and a full blizzard might only be very short in total height (blue sky).

Can I hose you down until soaked then put you in a deep freeze to replicate what happened?
 

karrie

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I'm from Alberta so this is stupid question from the get-go.
Do American cattle not know about huddling and putting you *** to the wind? That looks like snow that is stick so that is a mild wind, bitter cold granulates snow and a full blizzard might only be very short in total height (blue sky)

Huddling and putting your *** to the wind only gets you so far.

In Alberta, we are blessed by 'dry' snow typically. We virtually never get massive dumps of snow this deep, while it would be wet. Even in Alberta, the combination of wet and cold, would kill herds of cattle.

Consider also that cattle need to acclimatize. Temperatures drop gradually, not all at once. It gives them a chance to get used to the cold. To take cattle that one day were warm, and then dump so much wet snow on them that some of them smothered, not frozen, and it's a recipe for disaster.

Can I hose you down until soaked then put you in a deep freeze to replicate what happened?

argh, my bad for not reading through.... yours was much more succinct.
 

MHz

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Huddling and putting your *** to the wind only gets you so far.

In Alberta, we are blessed by 'dry' snow typically. We virtually never get massive dumps of snow this deep, while it would be wet. Even in Alberta, the combination of wet and cold, would kill herds of cattle.

Consider also that cattle need to acclimatize. Temperatures drop gradually, not all at once. It gives them a chance to get used to the cold. To take cattle that one day were warm, and then dump so much wet snow on them that some of them smothered, not frozen, and it's a recipe for disaster.

argh, my bad for not reading through.... yours was much more succinct.
The dripping sarcasm could be what made the comment seem so attractive to you.

Calgary can have a snow blizzard in any month of the year. May long has more than a few late snowfalls that come after the crops are already in.
Yes that -60 windchill is a real blessing, not.
If it was that bad where was the warning that is supposed to come with all that expensive hi-tech weather data that tracks things like this. It can drop very fast. I'm thinking that the rain wet the fur and the big fluffy snow started to fall and that did not melt and it was very heavy, like all sticky snow, Vancouver type snow to be exact. The cooling temps froze that into ice and allowed more and more snow to accumulate until the weight drove them to their knees and that is when compression war applied to their ability to breath and goody night bossy.

From 5% to 15% loss, calves high on the list of downed animals. The ones losing the 15% are pricing it out already. $1k/ calf in a world where only slaughter sized animals are processed. I can see some 'farmers' will be going out and breaking some legs of healthy calves just because there are pricks everywhere.

It rained hard before the snow fell.
That's what made me question why they were said to have froze to death, once you stop patting yourself on the back perhaps you can look at all factors rather than finding one and going all high-five for the duration of the thread, oh wait, that is normal behavior for you.

PS a drizzle will get you just as wet if you are a cow. If it got that cold that fast there would be ice on the trees. When we close that freezer door once I have my buffalo skin robe on (hair to the outside) I'm still going to want to have the key to the door on my side of the same door. Know what I mean?
 
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karrie

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You'll have to excuse us if your keen use of the English language doesn't always get your point across well. You just sounded honestly oblivious.
 

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Holy ****!!

Why is it a blizzard that never was?

Only a snowstorm?

The news said it rained first, got the cows wet, then it turned cold and snowed. Why is that hard to understand ?

If it happened in Canader, the farmer's be cryin so loud you could hear them in Ottywaw without the aid of phones.

People are going to lose their livelihood because of this. Not all, but some.

Sometimes the flippancy on this forum is just ****ing mind boggling.
 

MHz

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Why is that hard to understand ?

People are going to lose their livelihood because of this. Not all, but some.
So what did 95% of the cows that survived do that was 'different' or did the rain not get them wet and the snow not fall on them?

Just big enough that emergency aid will buy all the downed cows, at a higher price than they are actually worth at market.

You'll have to excuse us if your keen use of the English language doesn't always get your point across well. You just sounded honestly oblivious.
I'll try not to throw out confusing parts like this, "I'm from Alberta", you know the place that can go from +30 to -30 overnight and stay that way for more than a week, if that had happened I wouldn't have asked about how cold it actually go in SD, let alone take the University courses just so it could be put into a form you can understand, I truly doubt one even exits in or outside of nature.

The thing I love about this place is the reactions remain the same no matter what the subject is. Looks more like a breeding ground than a chat forum. lol MasterCard can't buy that sort of entertainment.
 

darkbeaver

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Holy ****!!

Why is it a blizzard that never was?

Only a snowstorm?

The news said it rained first, got the cows wet, then it turned cold and snowed. Why is that hard to understand ?

If it happened in Canader, the farmer's be cryin so loud you could hear them in Ottywaw without the aid of phones.

People are going to lose their livelihood because of this. Not all, but some.

Sometimes the flippancy on this forum is just ****ing mind boggling.

“The Blizzard that Never Was.” A Record-Setting Blizzard Killed 75,000 Cows and You Might Not Have Even Heard About It


Not on CNN, not the NY Times, not MSNBC


(it does not comply with the global warming science spin)
 

Nuggler

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“The Blizzard that Never Was.” A Record-Setting Blizzard Killed 75,000 Cows and You Might Not Have Even Heard About It


Not on CNN, not the NY Times, not MSNBC


(it does not comply with the global warming science spin)


Yer right Beave: never heard about it. But I have now, and thanks.


75000 now. Same blizzard ??


You think it wasn't reported cause it doesn't comply with the spin ?? Coulda been the reason.
Climate change is definitely upon us. Doesn't mean we can't have a blizz or two.

People are going to lose their livelihood because of this. Not all, but some.So what did 95% of the cows that survived do that was 'different' or did the rain not get them wet and the snow not fall on them?

Just big enough that emergency aid will buy all the downed cows, at a higher price than they are actually worth at market.


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95%.............? ****, I dunno. Tougher cows. The pics seemed to show calves. Probably not as tough.

Dunno bout emergency aid either. I know that during our drought here a year or two ago, farmers from Alta sent hay to E. Ont............And the farmers here reciprocated last year??............Damn little aid except of help of strangers.

But I kinow where you're coming from. Greedy farmers bilking the kindly insurance companies. Right:roll: Tell that to some righty who'll applaud for you.

We should gather up all the corpses and sell them to China, I doubt they will know the difference.


They'd just can them and sell them back to us.