Biden Addresses Racism Against Asians
- Thread starter mentalfloss
- Start date
Read Marx's Das Kapital by Francis Wheen, good introduction to understanding the masterpiece.
I don't really care what you think of communism because you clearly don't know what it is.Whatever you need to tell yourself.
Blah blah blah. Yeah, on paper communism is the purest form of govt. In PRACTICE it has been an UTTER disaster for everyone except the ruling elite. The Soviet Union was a dichotomy of the ruling elite and everyone else. with the everyone else being equally poor and equally oppressed, so at least there's more equality.
China, same shit. The major difference being is China ultimately opened itself up to elements of capitalism and took right off. Flying over the southern and eastern parts of China it looks like a capitalist's wet dream. But ya sure as hell wouldn't want to live there if you didn't have to. And of course it's just so wonderfully great of an ideology that Marxist-based policies in both countries resulted in MILLIONS of deaths from starvation.
Do you know what's inherently wrong with capitalism? No, not that. It's the same curse that plagues communism and every other system. human behaviour. I believe that capitalism is an inherent right. However, like ALL rights, civil and human, there needs to be reasonable limits on that right like there is on every other. Rights also come with personal responsibility. The mistake made is govts have done little to reasonably limit how far capitalists can go to make their fortunes, and I think for the most part the reason is pretty obvious.
Now, as for the "keeping the fruits of their labour" argument, just how much of your fruit are you getting in a socialist country when the govt is taking the majority of your income from you? Not only that but in almost EVERY SINGLE ASPECT, the private sector is more efficient than the public sector in delivering anything.
Do you wanna know what I really think about communism? I think it's a great system for a small community of like-minded people. On the other hand, I think it's a f*cking terrible way to run an entire nation, as has been historically demonstrated country after country after country. The fact that almost every communist country has started off by shoving a totalitarian govt down the people's throats via violence and intimidation is not a good indicator that communism is anything as you keep advertising it. The fact that Marx encourages violence and terrorism as the means to the end is not the least bit encouraging. The fact that twats like you whine about American/Western Imperialism while ignoring 50 years of Soviet Imperialism in Eastern Europe, Afghanistan etc tells me you've been fed a F*CK-TON of high grade horse shit.
The fact that you think Castro is some kind of worker's hero is, well I don't know whether to laugh or shake my head in sympathy of your gross ignorance and piss poor education. It's like seeing Kapernick on TV whining about oppression in his Nikes made by slave/child labour and sporting a Che T-shirt. A man who is hailed as a hero for fighting against US imperialism, while ignoring the Soviet Union's own oppressive Marxist driven imperialism in Eastern Europe and elsewhere, and who ultimately had no use for Black people.
The fact is, you're not a real communist. You're some snot-nosed little punk still living with mommy and daddy looking for something to rebel against. Yep, rebel against the only system that allows anyone to become financially well-off, over a system that has consistently kept everyone equally poor and in far too many cases, oppressed.
I don't give a f*ck about how great communism is on paper or in theory. In practice and reality it has always sucked. Even the more successful attempts at full-on socialism in India and Israel ended with reality catching up to the ideology. In fact, when India said "bye bye" to socialism and adopted capitalism, it resulted in the single largest migration from the lower class to the middle class of any country in history.
One thing is truly easy to understand, we still live in 2021 where a billion people are in poverty globally.
Very few people hold all the earth's wealth.
The supposed wealthiest nations on earth still deal with significant poverty and homelessness problems, and a viral pandemic is enough to plummet the economy into a depression (unless you're China who takes it seriously.)
Global warming, exacerbated by our desire to endlessly consume inching us closer to extinction every day.
Neo-liberal capitalism has created nothing but heightened misery, poverty, depression and suicide.
And all you can complain about is communism that has zero influence in global policy. SAD.
Homelessness Today
The real number is estimated to be roughly 5 million, approximately 3.5 percent of Russia's population. These estimates correspond with reported numbers on Russians living below the poverty line. Out of Russia's 144.5 million population, 13.3% live below the poverty line.Jul. 1, 2020
homeless in russia - Google Search
www.google.ca
$10000CAD will get you a country house with 2 hectares in Russia. $250 a Ha for grain land.
A Vancouver condo starting price is $12K per sq foot. Why is arable land worthless in Russia?
A Vancouver condo starting price is $12K per sq foot. Why is arable land worthless in Russia?
Last edited:
Their actions were that of socialists everywhere. They just had more success for a short time.
A good example of a small community where communism works would be a Hutterite colony, but you cannot combine Two colonies together because they would fight for control of the whole.
Blah blah blah. Yeah, on paper communism is the purest form of govt. In PRACTICE it has been an UTTER disaster for everyone except the ruling elite. The Soviet Union was a dichotomy of the ruling elite and everyone else. with the everyone else being equally poor and equally oppressed, so at least there's more equality.
China, same shit. The major difference being is China ultimately opened itself up to elements of capitalism and took right off. Flying over the southern and eastern parts of China it looks like a capitalist's wet dream. But ya sure as hell wouldn't want to live there if you didn't have to. And of course it's just so wonderfully great of an ideology that Marxist-based policies in both countries resulted in MILLIONS of deaths from starvation.
Do you know what's inherently wrong with capitalism? No, not that. It's the same curse that plagues communism and every other system. human behaviour. I believe that capitalism is an inherent right. However, like ALL rights, civil and human, there needs to be reasonable limits on that right like there is on every other. Rights also come with personal responsibility. The mistake made is govts have done little to reasonably limit how far capitalists can go to make their fortunes, and I think for the most part the reason is pretty obvious.
Now, as for the "keeping the fruits of their labour" argument, just how much of your fruit are you getting in a socialist country when the govt is taking the majority of your income from you? Not only that but in almost EVERY SINGLE ASPECT, the private sector is more efficient than the public sector in delivering anything.
Do you wanna know what I really think about communism? I think it's a great system for a small community of like-minded people. On the other hand, I think it's a f*cking terrible way to run an entire nation, as has been historically demonstrated country after country after country. The fact that almost every communist country has started off by shoving a totalitarian govt down the people's throats via violence and intimidation is not a good indicator that communism is anything as you keep advertising it. The fact that Marx encourages violence and terrorism as the means to the end is not the least bit encouraging. The fact that twats like you whine about American/Western Imperialism while ignoring 50 years of Soviet Imperialism in Eastern Europe, Afghanistan etc tells me you've been fed a F*CK-TON of high grade horse shit.
The fact that you think Castro is some kind of worker's hero is, well I don't know whether to laugh or shake my head in sympathy of your gross ignorance and piss poor education. It's like seeing Kapernick on TV whining about oppression in his Nikes made by slave/child labour and sporting a Che T-shirt. A man who is hailed as a hero for fighting against US imperialism, while ignoring the Soviet Union's own oppressive Marxist driven imperialism in Eastern Europe and elsewhere, and who ultimately had no use for Black people.
The fact is, you're not a real communist. You're some snot-nosed little punk still living with mommy and daddy looking for something to rebel against. Yep, rebel against the only system that allows anyone to become financially well-off, over a system that has consistently kept everyone equally poor and in far too many cases, oppressed.
I don't give a f*ck about how great communism is on paper or in theory. In practice and reality it has always sucked. Even the more successful attempts at full-on socialism in India and Israel ended with reality catching up to the ideology. In fact, when India said "bye bye" to socialism and adopted capitalism, it resulted in the single largest migration from the lower class to the middle class of any country in history.
Why? You just said "workers keeping the fruits of their labor is the entire ideology."
yep russia going to capitalism destroyed russian people. that's why most average people want ussr to return.
The collective, everyone work and share the fruits of their labor, problem was some worked hard and some not so much, the hard workers that got no more benefit than the not so much woke up and then there was none without forced labor and theft.
The ones born after the 1990 don't want to go back they were not conditioned like their parents and grand parents.
OK, so is it the main idea, or is it the entire ideology? Those are completely different concepts.
I'll be straight with you, Harper. My current conclusion, based on my reading of history, economics, and political science, is that communism does not work in any group that's not small enough for all members to know each other personally, and in point of fact, has never been tried on a larger scale without fatal levels of corruption being built in at the very start.
But my conclusions are always "subject to more information/argument."
Have you studied the various "indigenous Euro-communism" movements? They might be instructive.
For the best, most thoughtful fictional treatment of communism, I'd recommend The Dispossessed by Ursula K. LeGuin. It's fiction, but it makes several valuable points, both for and against the communist model.
I think I found Cliffy
Anyway the dude? on the video explains capitalism, socialism, communism, and fascism along with politics in very clear terms
gab.com
Video here
Anyway the dude? on the video explains capitalism, socialism, communism, and fascism along with politics in very clear terms
Swampy on Gab: 'OMG - is this me in 30 years?! 😬 🤪 😂 😂🤣'
Swampy on Gab: 'OMG - is this me in 30 years?! 😬 🤪 😂 😂🤣'
Video here
