Belinda Stronach appointed to Cabinet

Vanni Fucci

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bluealberta said:
Don't have to apologise for the truth. She was a power hungry person who joined the CPC because she thought she had a shot at it, lost, and now goes to the Liberals where she has sold herself to the highest bidder. Would I compare her to a lady of the evening? No, that would be an insult to the ladies of the evening. Call it what you want, when you sell yourself, there is really only one name for it.

So blue,

Her comment about Harper aligning with the Bloc, and her concern for the future of Canada because of that, meant nothing to you?

You do know that's what killed your party, right?
 

bluealberta

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Vanni Fucci said:
bluealberta said:
Reform: No abortion
CPC: Supports current legislation regarding abortion.

Not being entirely truthful though, are you blue? In their policy convention, they voted not to try to repeal the existing abortion legislation...

In my world, that's nowhere close to supporting current legislation regarding abortion...

Much like the position of protecting the traditional definition of marriage is clearly derived from the party's hatred towards gays and lesbians, that's the way you spinny little hacks twist things to make your ethnocentric, misogynist, homophobic hate-club appear to be more moderate to intellectually challenged voters...

Well guess what...Canada's not going to fall for that CRAP...

The CPC convention supported the status quo regarding aborion. I know that you all are looking for hidden agendas, but even you have to see the clarity there.

Your comments about marriage further prove my points about your negativity. The policy is in support of those, including me, who what to protect that definition. It is not anti anything or hatred towards anyone. If there was hatred, they would not have supported SSunions, plain and simple.
And use all the names you want, all you show is that you are intellectually challenged, and that the left always resorts to name calling and insults when they have no logical arguments. Do you really think that just because the likes of people like you call people on the right all the nasty names you can think of that we will all one day say" Gee, Vanni was right, we are that way, ?" Don't hold your breath, pal, because we have all caught onto your idiotic games and the idiotic games of the left who have no tolerance for any other viewpoints than their own impotent and myopic outlook on life. Too bad you have trouble with that thinking for yourself thing, you ought to try it and actually give your brain an excercise in logic instead of the continual excercise in futility it goes throught on a daily basis. Grow up a little bit.
 

Reverend Blair

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Not being entirely truthful though, are you blue? In their policy convention, they voted not to try to repeal the existing abortion legislation...

In my world, that's nowhere close to supporting current legislation regarding abortion...

Not to mention that within hours of the vote, there was a large movement in the CPC trying to change that decision and Conservative MPs are still front and centre at anti-choice rallies.

Seems that a lot of the radical Albertans couldn't make it to the convention, you see...they booked seats on a discount airline that went belly up.

Were the CPC to gain power they would introduce a ban on abortions as a private member's bill and Harper would call for a free vote.
 

Reverend Blair

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The CPC convention supported the status quo regarding aborion. I know that you all are looking for hidden agendas, but even you have to see the clarity there.

There is no clarity, that's the point. The vote wasn't to support the status quo, it was for the government not to introduce legislation to change it.
 

Vanni Fucci

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Reverend Blair said:
Were the CPC to gain power they would introduce a ban on abortions as a private member's bill and Harper would call for a free vote.

Yep...because he so loves democracy...

Mind you, he's weeded all the dissenters out of the party, so a free vote may as well be a vote for the party anyway...
 

Vanni Fucci

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bluealberta said:
It is not anti anything or hatred towards anyone. If there was hatred, they would not have supported SSunions, plain and simple.

Ummm...perhaps it's because even Stephen knows that it wouldn't sell to the majority of Canadians...it's all about getting elected after all...no matter the cost...


bluealberta said:
Do you really think that just because the likes of people like you call people on the right all the nasty names you can think of that we will all one day say" Gee, Vanni was right, we are that way, ?"

One can always hope that people have the capacity to learn and grow...
 

bluealberta

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Vanni Fucci said:
bluealberta said:
Don't have to apologise for the truth. She was a power hungry person who joined the CPC because she thought she had a shot at it, lost, and now goes to the Liberals where she has sold herself to the highest bidder. Would I compare her to a lady of the evening? No, that would be an insult to the ladies of the evening. Call it what you want, when you sell yourself, there is really only one name for it.

So blue,

Her comment about Harper aligning with the Bloc, and her concern for the future of Canada because of that, meant nothing to you?

You do know that's what killed your party, right?

Given that the Bloc is the THIRD party, it is far more plausible that they aligned themselves with the Conservatives. What the Bloc does is their own business, and really, what is their main platform? Getting out of Canada, so if they can defeat the current government, of course they are going to try. And Belinda also voted with the Bloc several times in the last few weeks, so let's not quote her too much, her credibility is lower than Martins at this point.

What is hurting the conservatives is the garbage people like you spew out with no basis. If there is a hidden agenda, the LIberals now have two former contenders for the leadership of the CPC. Surely Scotty or Babe Belinda should have the information on this, so why not make it public? Is it because, gee, there really is not any hidden agenda, or if there is, maybe both of them were too stupid to understand anything? Give up on the stupid allegations. Why don't you guyst go after Volpe for his stupid and racist remarks? Reg Alcott is another wonderful human being. If you even attempted to be fair, you would go after them, but all you guys do is make excuses for them, somehow blaming the conservatives. What trash you spew in the name of tolerance.
 

Reverend Blair

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Yep...because he so loves democracy...

Mind you, he's weeded all the dissenters out of the party, so a free vote may as well be a vote for the party anyway...

It's just more of Harper's hypocrisy, Vanni. Hell, a year ago he said that the only thing he considered a confidence vote was a money bill. This year he's insisting that orders to committees should be enough to bring down the government.

One day he agrees to fast-track a bill to help veterans, the next day he tries to bring down the government.

One day he's talking about how democratic the CPC is and how much he supports free votes in the house, the next day there are reports of him "reading the riot act" to a senior MP.

Harper is a nutbag.
 

bluealberta

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Vanni Fucci said:
bluealberta said:
It is not anti anything or hatred towards anyone. If there was hatred, they would not have supported SSunions, plain and simple.

Ummm...perhaps it's because even Stephen knows that it wouldn't sell to the majority of Canadians...it's all about getting elected after all...no matter the cost...

Or it could be what it is.the truth. And please, Martin is the poster boy for the getting elected at all cost mentality.


bluealberta said:
Do you really think that just because the likes of people like you call people on the right all the nasty names you can think of that we will all one day say" Gee, Vanni was right, we are that way, ?"

One can always hope that people have the capacity to learn and grow...

Vanni, if you are going to quote me, use the whole quote. Oh, I forgot, there is that nasty "let's take things out of context" philosophy. You just provided another example of how the left twists things. Disgraceful. And yes, there is hope for you, not much, but still, some.
 

bluealberta

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Reverend Blair said:
Not being entirely truthful though, are you blue? In their policy convention, they voted not to try to repeal the existing abortion legislation...

In my world, that's nowhere close to supporting current legislation regarding abortion...

Not to mention that within hours of the vote, there was a large movement in the CPC trying to change that decision and Conservative MPs are still front and centre at anti-choice rallies.

Seems that a lot of the radical Albertans couldn't make it to the convention, you see...they booked seats on a discount airline that went belly up.

Were the CPC to gain power they would introduce a ban on abortions as a private member's bill and Harper would call for a free vote.

You have absolutely no proof of your last statement, and it is an absolute lie, but it does make my point even further about fearmongering and mudslinging.
 

Reverend Blair

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What the Bloc does is their own business, and really, what is their main platform? Getting out of Canada, so if they can defeat the current government, of course they are going to try.

If their goal is to destroy Canada and they feel that getting rid of the Liberals will help them do that, then why is Harper so happy to help the Bloc?
 

Vanni Fucci

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bluealberta said:
Vanni, if you are going to quote me, use the whole quote. Oh, I forgot, there is that nasty "let's take things out of context" philosophy. You just provided another example of how the left twists things. Disgraceful. And yes, there is hope for you, not much, but still, some.

Alright then blue...do tell, which quote are you referring to, and how is that I've taken your quote out of context?
 

bluealberta

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Vanni Fucci said:
Reverend Blair said:
Harper is a nutbag.

Yep...but I have a feeling he won't be a problem for much longer... :p

ARe you leaving (he says with much hope?) Alas, probably not to be.

You guys just continue to support your tired, corrupt, thieving, lieing federal government and the hand puppet of the other party, Smilin Jack.
 

Reverend Blair

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You have absolutely no proof of your last statement, and it is an absolute lie, but it does make my point even further about fearmongering and mudslinging.

It's not a lie at all. It was reported during the convention because members of the CPC were talking about it. Some of them were set up in a motorhome in the parkade, Blue. They were extremely angry about that motion passing.
 

Vanni Fucci

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bluealberta said:
ARe you leaving (he says with much hope?) Alas, probably not to be.

You guys just continue to support your tired, corrupt, thieving, lieing federal government and the hand puppet of the other party, Smilin Jack.

I get the sense that you're bitter, blue...which is understandable...

...it must suck to finally realize that you've been wrong all along... :p
 

Reverend Blair

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Yep...but I have a feeling he won't be a problem for much longer...

I have a feeling that Harper is done. I think that the Conservatives are going to split again. Either a lot of the old PCs will move to the Liberals, or they'll head to the new PC party. Reuniting the right has been a failure.
 

bluealberta

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Reverend Blair said:
What the Bloc does is their own business, and really, what is their main platform? Getting out of Canada, so if they can defeat the current government, of course they are going to try.

If their goal is to destroy Canada and they feel that getting rid of the Liberals will help them do that, then why is Harper so happy to help the Bloc?

Get it through your head, the Conservatives are critical of the Liberals and as a result, are using what is available to bring down a corrupt, lieing, sleazy, and slimy government. If the Bloc wants to FOLLOW that, who could stop them? Your path of assistance is backwards.
 

bluealberta

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Reverend Blair said:
What the Bloc does is their own business, and really, what is their main platform? Getting out of Canada, so if they can defeat the current government, of course they are going to try.

If their goal is to destroy Canada and they feel that getting rid of the Liberals will help them do that, then why is Harper so happy to help the Bloc?

Get it through your head, the Conservatives are critical of the Liberals and as a result, are using what is available to bring down a corrupt, lieing, sleazy, and slimy government. If the Bloc wants to FOLLOW that, who could stop them? Your path of assistance is backwards.
 

canuckster

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Belinda Bombshell

I've also heard her described as benedict belinda. Give her an A for ambition. She dosn't care about the consequences or costs. Even dumped her boyfriend.
She's the typical spoiled little daddy's girl. Always got what she wanted. Headed up the Stronach empire with dad calling all the shots. I've read up her a bit and her peers did'nt think she really knew what was going on. Blonde = dumb ... there has to be something to that. I've got a blond daughter too and, honestly, she's not too bright either.
Martin had a funny look on his face when he got out of the limo with Linda (Lovelace). I'll say no more about that.
She was really pissed not winning the conservative leadership. First time she never got what she wanted. Now she's going to make the tories pay. And of course she gets a nice position of power with the liberals and thats what she wants - power and fame. And of course crooks of a feather flock together.
Canadian politics are so bad. Is there no honor, no honesty, no integrity? Why are we stuck with these losers in government anyways. Please! Would an honest man or woman please run for office!
I'm also curious how linda is going to remove her foot which is so firmly lodged in her mouth(throat). How can she badmouth someone one day and be best friends the next? One thing for sure, she will probably be the downfall of the liberals sooner or later.