Belgium terror network planned to kill police officers

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A lot of imposters of such as well, i'd put it.
Is this the Colpy argument? A person who professes Christianity, attends a Christian church regularly, gets together with other professed Christians and, at the orders of an ordained Christian minister, commits murder.

Nah, couldn't be a Christian.
 

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There seems to be a reason for this 'sudden' increase in Islamic terror throughout the West.

We hardly saw any of it, aside from that associated with the Palestinian issue, prior to the start of the century. On top of which much of it seems to be increasingly fomented by nationals and in many cases by converts to Islam. My theory is that collapse of the Christian social and cultural character of the West has left a vacuum into which Islam is surging.

Like it or not young people, and especially young men, have an innate need for a rigorous, morally explicit, critically defined faith which put onerous demands of proof upon them. They need a CODE and a stable conception of the universe. That is something that secular humanism, with all of its relativism, materialism and nihilism, which forms the basis post modern belief system of the West can never provide. That will always implicity agnostic, if not outrightly atheistic.. and founded in a profound pessimism and doubt.

So the West has really brought this on itself when it decided that, in all constitutional definitions, it is beyond superstitions such as belief in God.. and especially in Christ. As morally deformed as Islam is, it still represents something substantially certain, with which the West can no longer compete. And its only going to get worse.

We see a sudden increase in Islamic terror because we are fed a sudden increase assigned to the various inventions labled Islamic.

My theory is that collapse of the Christian social and cultural character of the West has left a vacuum into which usary surged many centuries ago and if you'll read the bible the present crisis is quite neatly explained. Morally deformed Christianity built the west as we knew it.
Maybe the west should try cooperation.
 

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Is this the Colpy argument? A person who professes Christianity, attends a Christian church regularly, gets together with other professed Christians and, at the orders of an ordained Christian minister, commits murder.

Nah, couldn't be a Christian.

You're right.. it's not Christian.
 

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We see a sudden increase in Islamic terror because we are fed a sudden increase assigned to the various inventions labled Islamic.

My theory is that collapse of the Christian social and cultural character of the West has left a vacuum into which usary surged many centuries ago and if you'll read the bible the present crisis is quite neatly explained. Morally deformed Christianity built the west as we knew it.
Maybe the west should try cooperation.


You can't cooperate or negotiate with the devil. Nothing he sais or promises can be trusted. The trick is to see through his disguises.. for he follows no code.. and his minions are represented in the formal structures of all religions.

And all of the positive aspects and the cohesive force of the West, and like all civilizations it is riddled with hypocrisy and contradictions.. still comes from its Chrstian foundations. The basis of ALL civilizations will always be a homogenous faith. Without that all will unravel.
 
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You can't cooperate or negotiate with the devil. Nothing he sais or promises can be trusted. The trick is to see through his disguises.. for he follows no code.. and his minions are represented in the formal structures of all religions.

And all of the positive aspects of the West, and like all civilizations it is riddled with hypocrisy and contradictions.. still comes from its Chrstian foundations. The basis of ALL civilizations will always be a homogenous faith. Without that all will unravel.
Which homogenous faith is responsible for the positive aspects of the West, Catholicism or Protestantism?

Before you say they're the same, may I remind you of the amount of time they spent slaughtering each other?
 

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Which homogenous faith is responsible for the positive aspects of the West, Catholicism or Protestantism?

Before you say they're the same, may I remind you of the amount of time they spent slaughtering each other?

I'd never say they are the same... Catholicism is the true Church, that which Christ established on the Rock of Peter.. Protestanism is a heresy.

As for the second point, i've stated before you have to separate what is OF the religion and what is done in the name of the religion. They are not the same.
 

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You can't cooperate or negotiate with the devil. Nothing he sais or promises can be trusted. The trick is to see through his disguises.. for he follows no code.. and his minions are represented in the formal structures of all religions.

And all of the positive aspects of the West, and like all civilizations it is riddled with hypocrisy and contradictions.. still comes from its Chrstian foundations. The basis of ALL civilizations will always be a homogenous faith. Without that all will unravel.


The "trick"of the light is well understood by many. The Bible repeats over and over that reason is the trick of light. The Gods have no time for the unreasoned faithfull and they are turned away form the gate in legions. The positive aspects of the West look exactly like positive eastern aspects or southern or northern aspects. Negotiation with Lucifer is absolutely required on a dayly basis so that you might avoid the sin of stupid cruel decisions which would necessitate your repeating the grade in the back seats where the light is not as good.
 

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I'd never say they are the same... Catholicism is the true Church, that which Christ established on the Rock of Peter.. Protestanism is a heresy.

As for the second point, i've stated before you have to separate what is OF the religion and what is done in the name of the religion. They are not the same.
coldstream, you are making no sense. I'm sorry. I presume the "positive aspects" of Western civilisation you attribute to Christianity are such things as participatory democracy, the rule of law, literacy, education, &c?

Well, the very same people who set those up slaughtered Indians, enslaved blacks, brutalised women, and justified it all in the name of God.

I'm sorry, I believe you are a pretty good person, your hatred which you deny is hatred of gays notwithstanding. But you have fallen into the trap of taking credit for the good things and self-absolving of the bad. Not unlike how so many Christians say we must thank God for the good things in our lives, but cannot blame God for the bad things.

Makes no sense.
 

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Makes no sense.
What, changing out of your jihadi costume to put on your police uniform while at HQ? See, just like 9/11, no us bases marked on the map, prime pickings, you guys need more bases, . . a lot more bases. (do you know whom lives in said country?)
 

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I'd never say they are the same... Catholicism is the true Church, that which Christ established on the Rock of Peter.. Protestanism is a heresy.

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That is hilarious!! Did you arrive here by time machine from the year 1300?

The Church was corrupt, much more concerned with affairs temporal than spiritual. Dissent was necessary......
 

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I'd never say they are the same... Catholicism is the true Church, that which Christ established on the Rock of Peter.. Protestanism is a heresy.

As for the second point, i've stated before you have to separate what is OF the religion and what is done in the name of the religion. They are not the same.

Ah yes the one true gawd argument. Too bad about 5000 other religions also claim the same thing. Get back to us when you have majority consensus.
 

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If we have been slaughtering each other for thousands of years in a back and forth holy war, then it should be absolutely normal that we pay our nice friends of Islam a bloody visit very soon.

I have absolutely no objection's wiping them right off the face of this earth.
 

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You know the slaughter has always taken place on their land by 'visitors from the west', commonly called an invasion. After 200 yeras it is called a failed invasion, after 1200 years it is clear one side is quite insane. Need any help in picking who the insane party is?
 

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I think it could even feel satisfying.

You know the slaughter has always taken place on their land by 'visitors from the west', commonly called an invasion. After 200 yeras it is called a failed invasion, after 1200 years it is clear one side is quite insane. Need any help in picking who the insane party is?

All humans are insane by today's feminist standards. But what do they know, they are only women.