I don't know. I for one support the idea of the State of Palestine.
The Canadian gov'ts position is baffling, but it isn't the nonsensical idiocy EAO forwards, lol.
Baird to Palestinians, You’ll face ‘consequences’
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The Canadian gov'ts position is baffling, but it isn't the nonsensical idiocy EAO forwards, lol.
Why would the ICC hold a trial where the accused can control who can participate in the trial?
But that wasn't your real point. Your real point was to point out Palestinian war crimes and Israeli victims. That would be fair, if you also recognized Israeli war crimes and Palestinian victims.
UN human rights investigators called on Israel on Thursday to halt settlement expansion and withdraw all half a million Jewish settlers from the occupied West Bank, saying that its practices could be subject to prosecution as possible war crimes.
UN report says Israel could be prosecuted for war crimes over settlements - Telegraph
Regarding "Canada's aid to Palestinians". That's a misnomer. Most Canadian aid to Palestine goes towards supporting an unpopular Palestinian dictator and contributes to Palestinian suffering.
...Most of the Canadian aid money has gone to building up a Palestinian security force overseen by a US general. The immediate impetus of the Canadian aid was to create a Palestinian security force “to ensure that the PA maintains control of the West Bank against Hamas,” as Canadian Ambassador to Israel Jon Allen was quoted...
Canadian Aid in Palestine » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
I hope Baird cuts all Canadian aid we currently give to Palestinians and Israelis. We have no business sticking our nose in an ethnic cleansing war. Since little to none of our "aid" actually helps anyone but Israeli war criminals and Palestinian dictators, I support cutting all Canadian aid to all belligerents in this conflict. Most Palestinians would be better off without this kind of "aid".
LOL, is that why you support/defend Hamas and Fatah leaders?
And believe every tid bit of Nazi-esque propaganda your dictator terrorist buddies release?
What happened to...
Once again, you get caught lying. lol.
The Palestinian president has accomplished more for Israel than he has for Palestine.
Early last month, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas seemingly renounced any claim to a right of return [AP]
A day after the UN voted to admit "Palestine" as a non-member state, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton publicly praised the Palestinian Authority (PA) led by Mahmoud Abbas for its collaboration with the Israeli occupation army.
Speaking at a Zionist think tank in Washington on Friday, Clinton defended the PA from criticism by Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman. According to Ha'aretz Clinton said, "With very little money, and no natural resources, they [the PA] have accomplished quite a bit, building a security force that works every single day with the IDF (Israel Defence Forces). They have entrepreneurial successes. They are nationalistic - but largely secular. Israel should support them."
Mahmoud Abbas' real "accomplishment" was not the UN vote on Palestine - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
Introducing The Palestine Papers
Over the last several months, Al Jazeera has been given unhindered access to the largest-ever leak of confidential documents related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There are nearly 1,700 files, thousands of pages of diplomatic correspondence detailing the inner workings of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. These documents – memos, e-mails, maps, minutes from private meetings, accounts of high level exchanges, strategy papers and even power point presentations – date from 1999 to 2010.
The material is voluminous and detailed; it provides an unprecedented look inside the continuing negotiations involving high-level American, Israeli, and Palestinian Authority officials.
Al Jazeera will release the documents between January 23-26th, 2011. They will reveal new details about:
Early last month, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas seemingly renounced any claim to a right of return [AP]
A day after the UN voted to admit "Palestine" as a non-member state, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton publicly praised the Palestinian Authority (PA) led by Mahmoud Abbas for its collaboration with the Israeli occupation army.
Speaking at a Zionist think tank in Washington on Friday, Clinton defended the PA from criticism by Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman. According to Ha'aretz Clinton said, "With very little money, and no natural resources, they [the PA] have accomplished quite a bit, building a security force that works every single day with the IDF (Israel Defence Forces). They have entrepreneurial successes. They are nationalistic - but largely secular. Israel should support them."
Mahmoud Abbas' real "accomplishment" was not the UN vote on Palestine - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
Introducing The Palestine Papers
Over the last several months, Al Jazeera has been given unhindered access to the largest-ever leak of confidential documents related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. There are nearly 1,700 files, thousands of pages of diplomatic correspondence detailing the inner workings of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. These documents – memos, e-mails, maps, minutes from private meetings, accounts of high level exchanges, strategy papers and even power point presentations – date from 1999 to 2010.
The material is voluminous and detailed; it provides an unprecedented look inside the continuing negotiations involving high-level American, Israeli, and Palestinian Authority officials.
Al Jazeera will release the documents between January 23-26th, 2011. They will reveal new details about:
- the Palestinian Authority’s willingness to concede illegal Israeli settlements in East Jerusalem, and to be “creative” about the status of the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount;
- the compromises the Palestinian Authority was prepared to make on refugees and the right of return;
- details of the PA’s security cooperation with Israel;
- and private exchanges between Palestinian and American negotiators in late 2009, when the Goldstone Report was being discussed at the United Nations.
Most aid money supposedly destined to help Palestinians as well as Palestinian taxes and other revenue are collected and controlled by Israel. At Israel's discretion, some of this money goes to the Palestinian authority (Abbas) or at times its redirected to general Israeli government revenue. Some Americans might be familiar with the concept of "Taxation without Representation".
No taxation without representation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Israel has withheld part of its $75m (£38m) monthly tax revenue payment to the Palestinian Authority after a diplomatic offensive by the Prime Minister, Salam Fayyad, designed to stop the continued expansion of Jewish settlements.
Israel cuts off Palestinian tax funds as relations hit new low - Middle East - World - The Independent
Most Canadian aid money our government claims is destined to help the Palestinian people actually pays the salaries of the thugs and mercenaries who protect Abbas from Palestinians. Canada's support does little to no good for average Palestinians and only serves to help prop up an unpopular dictator.
Many Palestinians consider Abbas to be an Israeli collaborator after the Palestinians Papers became public. But I think its more accurate to describe Abbas as just someone Israelis can bribe and yet claim represents the Palestinians, when in fact Abbas represents himself.
Without outside support, Abbas wouldn't be able to afford personal security and he'd have been assassinated by now. Israel allows Abbas to retain limited powers because he serves their purposes for the moment.
No taxation without representation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Israel has withheld part of its $75m (£38m) monthly tax revenue payment to the Palestinian Authority after a diplomatic offensive by the Prime Minister, Salam Fayyad, designed to stop the continued expansion of Jewish settlements.
Israel cuts off Palestinian tax funds as relations hit new low - Middle East - World - The Independent
Most Canadian aid money our government claims is destined to help the Palestinian people actually pays the salaries of the thugs and mercenaries who protect Abbas from Palestinians. Canada's support does little to no good for average Palestinians and only serves to help prop up an unpopular dictator.
Many Palestinians consider Abbas to be an Israeli collaborator after the Palestinians Papers became public. But I think its more accurate to describe Abbas as just someone Israelis can bribe and yet claim represents the Palestinians, when in fact Abbas represents himself.
Without outside support, Abbas wouldn't be able to afford personal security and he'd have been assassinated by now. Israel allows Abbas to retain limited powers because he serves their purposes for the moment.
Ummm...
That isn't what you said before.
Lets take a look at what you said...
In defense of...
So now it's gone from "Israel controls" aid money destined for Palestine, as in completely, to most?
Tsk tsk tsk, your dishonesty is very telling, lol.
Are these the same thugs and mercenaries that came up with the "final autopsy" you believe proves Israel is a monster?
Is that why his gov't came up with the "final autopsy"?
Geez EAO, you're so dishonest you can't even remember which source is good and/or bad when you glean Nazi-esque propaganda.
I guess for you it really doesn't matter who or what the source is, so long as it demonizes Israel eh.
Please, tell us again how you're objective, critical thinking and not a raging bigot, lol.
Give them money or not, but don't try to bribe them with the money which is what Baird is suggesting.
It seems that in Canada, and the West in it's entirety, it is becoming increasingly hard to hear an elected voice that will speak out against injustice of any kind committed by the NATO Israeli axis of murderers and liars. These acceptances and glorifications of injustices have become routine in our lives so much so that we have become insensitive to the horrors and evils committed in our names and seemingly with our blessings. There is one and only one way to correct this madness and that is to make Baird and his ilk faces the consequences of law. That would in better times perhaps come to be but now it seems we are powerless to act even when it surely means that the evil we tolerate today will be our reward for inaction and indecision.
Canadian law Ziobotbear. I could not hope to match your output of useless rambling unicellular monotonous rubbish. It is not even good enough to be babble.
Can you cite the code, section and sub section?
Or is this just more of your usual babble?
The threat is that if Canada, the US and Israel end the cash train, Abbas would have to pay for security/mercenaries out of his own pocket. If he can't pay the bill, then most likely he'd have to flee Ramallah. The resulting power vacuum would likely benefit Hamas and other militant groups.
Most likely Baird will not carry out his threat to cut Palestinian aid. Abbas can rely on continued Canadian tax dollars while Harper continues to unshakably support Palestinian oppression and injustice.
Yup. I'm more charitable than that. I may pick my charities, but once I do I don't give and then threaten. Government should bow out of the charity business and focus on paying off the debt. If it insists charity is important, then just make more of our taxes charity deductible since obviously it doesn't know what charity is anyway.