No, and no.
And that's been around for thousands of years.
The term maybe, but not the actual family structure. Which is actually thousands of years old.
B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy
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Which post warranted the "red"? I can't find it. I wouldn't get too out of sorts over a "red". I get them all the time, quite often they say more about the donor than the donee! :lol:
A husband and wife arrangement has been around for ever. But a family usually includes children. Even in Europe, children were raised in an extended family situation on farms and such. In NA, in most tribal cultures, children were usually raised by grandparents while the young adults did the fishing, hunting, berry picking, etc. Children were the responsibility of everyone in the group, not just the parents. The strain of raising kids today is too much for a majority of families which results in a 50+% divorce rate.
I know that is an over simplification but this is discussion, not a book.
Thats cuz you're so dithspicable!
How's it going this mornin'?
Clearly you were being an idiot. But what else is new?. And yes your reference sucked. You stated it was in the bible, I stated that stoning was also in the bible and you came back with the invasion with impunity argument. Now if you were trying to argue with my point that there are a lot of things that's were written in the bible are based on outdated thinking, please explain to me how you were countering that with your reference which sucked completely.
Or were you just trolling?
Look Gopher, I am not going to debate you any further on this because it's been quite awhile since you've made an idiot out of yourself and people still have stuff to say here on this topic,.
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We can argue the disadvantages or the merits of polygamy, but the fact remains, that polygamy is illegal. There is something about Bountiful that is weird. Whenever you see an interview with one of the women, she seems to be constantly looking over her shoulder
as if she was about to be slapped down. I can't remember an interview with a teenage boy.
as if she was about to be slapped down. I can't remember an interview with a teenage boy.
And THAT fact should have precluded, the whole thing having to be opened up and investigated. :smile:
there are so so many divorces now, which brings in lawyers and court battles for the rights of husbands
and wives, and child support etc., I can just imagine the mess when 'with polygamy being legal', (which
I hope, never), families split up, one husband, four or five wives, ten children, and the courts have
to deal with that.
men, (mostly men anyway), being told to pay child support to four different women for their children, as
it is now many can't, won't, just don't pay the support, and when the money is spread around four
different sets of children, they will each get about $20.00 each, so that he can have enough to buy
his groceries and pay his rent. What a mess, but then of course he had allready gathered a couple
more women to marry and continue the plan.
the type of living arrangements and rules in a place like bountiful would never allow any woman to go
to the courts for assistance because the 'group' is her law, she was born there, knows nothing else,
and has been brainwashed and ordered 'what' to do, as the group 'is' her law.
the only way she can be free is to 'escape', and as soon as that word has to be used, it is automatically
a miserable situation.
women 'like me and many others', having being born here etc., would put up with multiple wives in the house about as much as
we would put up with a bees nest in the house.
the war that would go on behind those closed doors would equal world war three.
if polygamy was legal, i'm sure for a while 'some' would go for it, kind of cool doncha think? lol
if might be a fad for a few years till there was enough history to show what a bad idea it is.
i'm sure there are thousands of men who would love the idea, pick and choose between women he wants to
have sex with on any given night, feel like a blonde today, and a red head tomorrow, but just noticing
the brunette, (getting kind of old), don't want her any more, but the flip side of that is, 'how' many
men talk of marriage as a trap, so why on earth would they get into that big of a trap.
a man with a good amount of common sense, will know how hard it is to get thru
life with 'one' wife, and two or three kids, and would never want to get involved with 3 or 4 more,
and if they do, make it one at a time,(like they do now), not all at the same time.
its all about screwing around, so just get into an arrangement that is 'open', and screw around all
you want till that fad wears off, then move on to whatever you want next, but under the approval of
our canadian government, and not outside the law.
there are all kinds of people who do all kinds of things in life that the mainstream would not do,
that is the freedoms we have in this country, go for it, but keep your lifestyle within the law,
and just because a few want that lifestyle, doesn't mean it should be made legal.
at least thats how I see it.
and wives, and child support etc., I can just imagine the mess when 'with polygamy being legal', (which
I hope, never), families split up, one husband, four or five wives, ten children, and the courts have
to deal with that.
men, (mostly men anyway), being told to pay child support to four different women for their children, as
it is now many can't, won't, just don't pay the support, and when the money is spread around four
different sets of children, they will each get about $20.00 each, so that he can have enough to buy
his groceries and pay his rent. What a mess, but then of course he had allready gathered a couple
more women to marry and continue the plan.
the type of living arrangements and rules in a place like bountiful would never allow any woman to go
to the courts for assistance because the 'group' is her law, she was born there, knows nothing else,
and has been brainwashed and ordered 'what' to do, as the group 'is' her law.
the only way she can be free is to 'escape', and as soon as that word has to be used, it is automatically
a miserable situation.
women 'like me and many others', having being born here etc., would put up with multiple wives in the house about as much as
we would put up with a bees nest in the house.
the war that would go on behind those closed doors would equal world war three.
if polygamy was legal, i'm sure for a while 'some' would go for it, kind of cool doncha think? lol
if might be a fad for a few years till there was enough history to show what a bad idea it is.
i'm sure there are thousands of men who would love the idea, pick and choose between women he wants to
have sex with on any given night, feel like a blonde today, and a red head tomorrow, but just noticing
the brunette, (getting kind of old), don't want her any more, but the flip side of that is, 'how' many
men talk of marriage as a trap, so why on earth would they get into that big of a trap.
a man with a good amount of common sense, will know how hard it is to get thru
life with 'one' wife, and two or three kids, and would never want to get involved with 3 or 4 more,
and if they do, make it one at a time,(like they do now), not all at the same time.
its all about screwing around, so just get into an arrangement that is 'open', and screw around all
you want till that fad wears off, then move on to whatever you want next, but under the approval of
our canadian government, and not outside the law.
there are all kinds of people who do all kinds of things in life that the mainstream would not do,
that is the freedoms we have in this country, go for it, but keep your lifestyle within the law,
and just because a few want that lifestyle, doesn't mean it should be made legal.
at least thats how I see it.
If you are going to attack somone for not being civil, then you better start looking in some of your friends back yards. I've been waiting for your "red" to come because I knew it would at some point. I did give you a negative for being vulgar and it's obvious that being vulgar is of very little concern to you.
Depending on how someone wanted to choose to take my post, it was not an attack on anyone's family in any way - it was an attack on what I consider to be a moral issue.
You're 100% correct.
The problem is that people have equated Bountiful with polygamy, and polygamy with Bountiful.
All families are dyfunctional Cliff. It just depends on how dysfunctional we want to put up with - polygamy not being one of them in my book. I know that you believe being with one person is un-natural. I am so far on the other side of the fence and truly see this as a moral issue. Having more than one partner (spouse or otherwise) and especially in the same house or at the same time is just sick.
That's because some people have the power to have posts removed if they don't suit their fancy JLM. There was NOTHING wrong with the post. It was a response to gerryh so his friends removed it. Along with the "red" I also received a "green".
I'm pretty sure no one is asking YOU to put up with polygamy.
Screaming matches with a spouse is something I won't put up with.
I think you could probably state that as a fact to numerous posters in this thread so why single me out? What is your point - spell it out for everyone to read. Since you don't know anything about my life either, maybe you should not comment on screaming matches. For most people - there is a darn good reason for those to happen. I don't like screaming matches. I don't like violence which can include screaming matches. Please - since you do not know anything about my life, let it go.
. I feel the same way about 95 percent of Mennonite and Hutterite women I see. The lack of plural marriages doesn't help when you're being isolated from societu and raised in a sort of cult
Feel free to ask the mods who all I neg rep. Or just ask the friends you think I excuse or ignore. You decided to insult someone on a family level that took it too far. I called you on it. If you can't handle that, when you're more than willing to call out behaviour you see as beyond acceptable, then put me on ignore and I'll do the same for you.
See, I really can't see North American society jumping into polygamous relationships easily. Hell, people have a hard time committing to one person. And two people have a hard enough time staying married, imagine 3 or 4 or more? We were brought up on Disney and 50's ideas of marriage. I really doubt there is any sizeable portion of our society about to run out and jump into a polygamous marriage. Even most polyamorists I know (and I'm one of them), wouldn't.
we'll have to agree to disagree on this one karrie.
so then, if your spouse became very angry and started screaming at you, what would your
reaction be.
a. run out the door b. tuk tape c. cry d. scream back e. ignore lol
just wonderin
I can't answer for others, but I know what mine was. "Let me know when you're done,"
and then ignore them or leave for a while. I'm not married anymore. Don't do the
drama thing well, I guess. Last time I left (almost two decades ago), I didn't return.
If you ignore something (hard enough, long enough, often enough) like the spouse screaming
at you....is it really happening anymore if it isn't effective? Take this cat for example:
In his world, is there really a Husky out the window if he doesn't acknowledge its existance?
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