B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Yes you are..

You could have walked away, but instead you choose to keep taking the abuse. How stupid are you. Report the posts and walk away.

 

[gopher]

As you well know I can give as good as I get and can do a better job of playing with your mind. I can see you're hurt again - threw the first punch (as always) and are now crying because I swung back. Typical self pitying big bully sh1t. Go to bed now, cry yourself to sleep, and don't wet your laced pink panties in the process.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

As you well know I can give as good as I get and can do a better job of playing with your mind. I can see you're hurt again - threw the first punch (as always) and are now crying because I swung back. Typical self pitying big bully sh1t. Go to bed now, cry yourself to sleep, and don't wet your laced pink panties in the process.

Buddy boy let's be clear on something. You couldn't give a hand job to yourself without screwing it up. Being stupid doesn't mean that you can give as good as you get, it just means your stupid. I can do this as long as you like, although at some point this will all get scrubbed away anyhow, but hey come on. It will be entertainment for the onlookers.

So knock yourself out there grease stain. I'm not going anywhere at the moment.

 

[gopher]

Let's review how this new comment from the idiot in residence started and we'll see who is at fault:

gopher
Executive Branch Member




#61Re: B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy

5 days ago

Nothing wrong with polygyny and it is biblical. See Isaiah 4:1.
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Retired_Can_Soldier
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#62Re: B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy

5 days ago

So was stoning.


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gopher
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#142Re: B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy

3 days ago

Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier

So was stoning.
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So was invading a foreign country and killing everyone in it with impunity.

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Retired_Can_Soldier
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#143Re: B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy

3 days ago

Quote: Originally Posted by gopher

So was invading a foreign country and killing everyone in it with impunity.

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Hey Moron that wasn't in the bible.




Note who started with the name calling --- once again, it was NOT me.



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gopherExecutive Branch Member

#145Re: B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy

3 days ago

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Hey Moron that wasn't in the bible.
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Ignorant arse, what the fcuk happened to Canaanites??
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Retired_Can_Soldier
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#146Re: B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy

3 days ago

Quote: Originally Posted by gopher

Ignorant arse, what the fcuk happened to Canaanites??
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Goph, you are so predictable.




You can see the loud mouth hater said it wasn't in the Bible. When I proved him wrong, he resorts to name calling. Then, he cries because he thinks he can get away with name calling and that somehow everyone else needs to knuckle under to his bullying.

And when I prove him wrong, I ask:


gopherExecutive Branch Member

#147Re: B.C. Supreme Court upholds ban on polygamy

3 days ago

So you're taking it back, right?



Here was his reply:


No I'm not taking it back. I'll admit that I thought you were lipping off about Afghanistan or Iraq because that is the baggage you usually drag from thread to thread. That's what makes you predictable. As to your original statement you said. That Polygamy was in the bible and I countered that so was stoning. So if that was your way of trying to one up me you have a really retarded way of going about it.




Again, he won't take it back - thought I was lipping off about something totally irrelevant and proceeds to post more sh1t.




But wait! BLAME OBAMA! BLAME GOPHER!!

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Dude you're certifiable. And of course you cherry picked what suits you. If your going to log the minutes of our exchange at least log them all.

 

[damngrumpy]

The so called religious people are those who wanted to have their rights entrenched
in the constitution. I think everyone should obey the law of the land equally regardless
of whether they are religious or not. Child exploitation and religion seem to go hand in
hand by public image. The vast majority of religious people do not subscribe to this
kind of behaviour, however they wear the label anyway. No I personally am not all that
religious by a long shot but we should put this into perspective. These people who
rape and molest children are not religious fanatics they are sexual criminals. Things
will be much better when the religious people themselves, stand up and say enough.

The fundamentalists, are people who are really con men who prey on the gullible and
those with blind faith that the leaders are from God. We can fix a lot of things in our
society but no one can fix stupid, and the blindly narrow minded. These men do not
want multiple wives who think for themselves that would be terrible. They pick out
and train uneducated girls and they are brainwashed into believing they are sacrificing
themselves for God. Of course the men control everything.

I think its time to ensure children are protected from predators regardless of the lifestyle.
These closed societies are breeding grounds for abuse at taxpayers expense as the
vast majority of these women and children are on assistance. If a man is to have
multiple wives and children they should have to look after them financially themselves.
How do we do that? Don't know, but we have to do more than just uphold a law, we
have to solve the problem and ensure the children and the women are taken care of
in a safe and just manner. The ruling is a start but much more must be done to solve
the real problem.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

The so called religious people are those who wanted to have their rights entrenched
in the constitution. I think everyone should obey the law of the land equally regardless
of whether they are religious or not. Child exploitation and religion seem to go hand in
hand by public image. The vast majority of religious people do not subscribe to this
kind of behaviour, however they wear the label anyway. No I personally am not all that
religious by a long shot but we should put this into perspective. These people who
rape and molest children are not religious fanatics they are sexual criminals. Things
will be much better when the religious people themselves, stand up and say enough.

The fundamentalists, are people who are really con men who prey on the gullible and
those with blind faith that the leaders are from God. We can fix a lot of things in our
society but no one can fix stupid, and the blindly narrow minded. These men do not
want multiple wives who think for themselves that would be terrible. They pick out
and train uneducated girls and they are brainwashed into believing they are sacrificing
themselves for God. Of course the men control everything.

I think its time to ensure children are protected from predators regardless of the lifestyle.
These closed societies are breeding grounds for abuse at taxpayers expense as the
vast majority of these women and children are on assistance. If a man is to have
multiple wives and children they should have to look after them financially themselves.
How do we do that? Don't know, but we have to do more than just uphold a law, we
have to solve the problem and ensure the children and the women are taken care of
in a safe and just manner. The ruling is a start but much more must be done to solve
the real problem.

Well said Grump

 

[petros]

Concubines are cool and it's not polygamy.

I'm going to ask if I can have one.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Concubines are cool and it's not polygamy.

I'm going to ask if I can have one.

Who are you going to ask. Santa Clause?

 

[petros]

Mrs Clause

 

[gopher]

Concubines are perfectly legal in a marital situation as Sarah selected them for her husband in the Old Testament and she was upheld as the ideal wife in the New Testament in 1 Peter 3:6. Let's which genius is going to deny it or start yet another argument over that.

 

[talloola]

This is when the govt is supposed to register births so this sort of scam cannot happen. The govt needs to find out when someone is born so their rights can be protected. Easy to do. The govt is the ultimate arbitrater.

how would the government know about the births if they are not declared, and the babies not delivered
in hospitals, it is only when investigations are done in places like bountiful that many children are
discovered, and their own records can 'say' anything, and when the women are made to deny, and want to
deny because they are protecting their own children, the government has their hands tied, they can only
make records from 'what' bountiful are tellng them, then the government forms can be filled out, but
i'm sure most of them are not accurate.

Bountiful is a mix of child abuse and polygamy, each of which our government should be addressing 'now',
and clean that up so that they won't abuse any more children, and no more girls will be forced to marry
older men, have their children and become a slave, even though they don't know or admit they are slaves.

as soon as a girl becomes a legal adult in bountiful, with children, and is part of a multi wife family, for them it is 'now' polygamy, before that it was child abuse, that is how bountiful is polygamy as well as
child abuse.

I can't prove any of that, I have only watched many tv documentaries, and followed the problems a few
years ago in the u.s., so it sure is a fuzzy area, but only that way because the government backs away
and leaves them alone.

it would be rather easy for men and women to live a life of polygamy outside of 'cult' groups, in the
private sectar.
there doesn't have to be any marriages, just get the big house, all move in, do whatever it is you do,
registar all the children at birth, and don't have sex with, or force minors to marry any men.
when the children grow up, they can make their own minds up about their own life styles, not much
different than gays/lesbians adopting children, doesn't mean their children will follow the parents
lifestyles, and as they become adults they can choose for 'themselves'.

I don't need or want polygamy to become legal in Canada, it is a lifestyle for a very few, and in my opinion
would not ever become desireable for many, but adults do have the freedom to choose their own lifestyles,
so if polygamy is for them, fine, just do it.

 

[gerryh]

I don't need or want polygamy to become legal in Canada, it is a lifestyle for a very few, and in my opinion
would not ever become desireable for many, but adults do have the freedom to choose their own lifestyles,
so if polygamy is for them, fine, just do it.

Legalizing polygamy would protect all the partners involved in the marriage rather than just the 2 primary partners that have a legally recognized marriage.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Social workers can now dig harder and deeper to help end this nonsense to find out the facts.

tall: polygamy is bad, the sooner these terrible communities are busted up the better. They lack freedom and choice for the individuals involved, especially young people. It's just another form of slavery under the guise of religion.

 

[gerryh]

Social workers can now dig harder and deeper to help end this nonsense to find out the facts.

tall: polygamy is bad, the sooner these terrible communities are busted up the better. They lack freedom and choice for the individuals involved, especially young people. It's just another form of slavery under the guise of religion.

still babbling incoherently about things you know nothing about.


Polygamy is not about a lack of choice or freedom. As a matter of fact it is all about choice and freedom. The freedom to choose and love whom ever and however many people one chooses.

Polygamy is not about slavery, it's not about child abuse, it's not about religion.

 

[talloola]

Legalizing polygamy would protect all the partners involved in the marriage rather than just the 2 primary partners that have a legally recognized marriage.

yes I know, that is what karrie mentioned too.

thats a tough one, but life isn't perfect is it, so many left out of society in many walks of life, and if people choose to
live a life of polygamy, they chose that route, 'just don't choose that route'.

would love to be a fly on the wall over the years as polygamist families go thru that swinging door to
claim child support etc., and as the young wives become older, out they go, get new ones, and the mess
continues, the man can live his whole life, going thru many women, discard them when they are not 'cool'
anymore, (got an eye on a new one now), it would be very sad.

I can't support that.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

still babbling incoherently about things you know nothing about.


Polygamy is not about a lack of choice or freedom. As a matter of fact it is all about choice and freedom. The freedom to choose and love whom ever and however many people one chooses.

Polygamy is not about slavery, it's not about child abuse, it's not about religion.

Polygamy is not about freedom when children are forced into a pre-modern existence. These young girls are not given a choice. The men have the choice, that is all. It is a sham. Such talk is embarrassing for a Canadian to make. Move to Saudi Arabia where you can become property of the king and have several wives in that medieval kingdom/prison, they're waiting for you.

Please, give us a link so we can see how polygamy has worked for you, don't be bashful.

 

[TenPenny]

Polygamy is not about freedom when children are forced into a pre-modern existence. These young girls are not given a choice. The men have the choice, that is all. It is a sham. Such talk is embarrassing for a Canadian to make. Move to Saudi Arabia where you can become property of the king and have several wives in that medieval kingdom/prison, they're waiting for you.

You still don't understand what 'polygamy' means.

 

[wulfie68]

Polygamy is not about freedom when children are forced into a pre-modern existence.

But the point that is being repeatedly made is child abuse is not polygamy, its child abuse.

These young girls are not given a choice. The men have the choice, that is all.

And that is no different than young girls from various cultures being forced into arranged marriages. My sister had a 16 yr old friend in high school, from a middle eastern heritage, who was pressured into marrying a young man from "the old country". It had nothing to do with polygamy but rather the peer and familial pressures that different cultures can exert. My sister's friend, and other women in similar positions face a difficult choice: do what your family and community wish or seek refuge in your legal rights and face ostracism. In the end, we cannot legally compel parents/churches/cultural groups/etc NOT to apply this pressure.

It is a sham. Such talk is embarrassing for a Canadian to make.

No, your statements are embarassing for any son or daughter of an enlightened society to make. You ignore the definition and root causes of the problems you want to combat: thats not logical or fair when you get down to it.

Now I have said before, that I DO NOT support what is going on in Bountiful or other communities like it (you know there are more, there always are; they just aren't as publicized). I don't like how they pervert our laws and culture and try to hide it behind "freedom of religion"... but the laws they are breaking that are the most harmful are the ones regarding child molestation. I'll agree that most examples of polygamous situations do involve coercing young/underage women into these situations, and that is unacceptable to me. I also don't have a lot of issues with prosecutors using every tool at their disposal to punish ther perpetrators, but at the same time, while this may be poetic justice in cases like the Bountiful ones, it is not truly just for those who wish to legalize polyamorous relationships and are denied that right; its the same type of logic that was used to deny gay marriage.

 

[petros]

In the multiverse, y'all are polygamists.