B.C. 'Pot' tax could net billions if pot legalized

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WLDB

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Yeah this isnt really news. People have known about this for a very long time. I imagine many more similar studies with similar results will be published before anyone does anything about it.
 

#juan

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Wouldn't the tax revenues from pot just replace the revenues once raised by alcohol? I can't see it as any
super savior for the govt. Might save some money once spent on enforcement of drug laws.
 

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Wouldn't the tax revenues from pot just replace the revenues once raised by alcohol?

Is alcohol cheaper in BC? Here they still charge an arm and a leg for it. The taxes on it are quite high. Revenue is revenue, even if its only a little bit. No government is in a position to turn down some easy money,

Trudeau wanted to legalize pot back in '68 when he was first elected but I think the US (Nixon) jumped all over him.

I doubt thats the reason he didnt go through with it. He seemed to enjoy pissing off the Americans, Nixon in particular.
 

damngrumpy

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First of all in politics everything takes time and it has to become a popular idea.
In other words politicians are gutless until the current situation is no long a
tenable one. Now taxpayers are willing to do this so they don't get a tax increase
Its funny how the electorate sobers up at some point.
 

JamesBondo

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This is a classic case where researchers get together, they post some numbers then immediately roll into a politically driven statement like " The money could be used for...".

the fact is any new source of revenue could be used for any program. Just stick to your field of expertise and keep your opinion to yourself.
 

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As usual, researchers are about 40 years behind the times. Pot smokers have been saying that for decades. Where have they been.

Probably not voting or pot would have been legal 40 years ago.

Wouldn't the tax revenues from pot just replace the revenues once raised by alcohol? I can't see it as any
super savior for the govt. Might save some money once spent on enforcement of drug laws.

Enforcement is small potatos. It is all the hangers on that dive the cost of prohibition up. There are thousands of government employees that have a vested interest in keeping pot illegal. Right from court clerks to social workers to persecuters and lawyers.
 

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Enforcement is small potatos. It is all the hangers on that dive the cost of prohibition up. There are thousands of government employees that have a vested interest in keeping pot illegal. Right from court clerks to social workers to persecuters and lawyers.

Not MPs though, well aside from a few who have a socially conservative constituency.

Just stick to your field of expertise and keep your opinion to yourself.

Perhaps in a perfect world, but not in a democracy.
 

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Wouldn't the tax revenues from pot just replace the revenues once raised by alcohol? I can't see it as any
super savior for the govt. Might save some money once spent on enforcement of drug laws.

Might let the police concentrate on real crime.

Trudeau wanted to legalize pot back in '68 when he was first elected but I think the US (Nixon) jumped all over him.

And that would be the Nixon who commissioned one of the most comprehensive reports ever done on marijuana, then promptly threw it in the garbage. Much to his surprise, the report supported decriminalization.
 

Ron in Regina

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A new study calculates British Columbians' pot purchases total about half a billion dollars each year, and the pro-legalization researchers conducting the study say that means the province could be bringing in massive tax revenues.


B.C. marijuana tax could net billions if pot legalized - British Columbia - CBC News

From the LINK in the O.P.:

They looked at the price of marijuana and research that suggests more than 366,000 people in B.C. use pot to estimate the pot industry is worth between $443 million and $564 million a year.

The researchers also point to data from Washington, which recently held a successful referendum to legalize pot, that suggests the same number of pot smokers in that state could bring in $2.5 billion in taxes over five years in a regulated system.

Anyone else see an issue with the math above? If the pot industry is worth 1/2 a billion
dollars a year...then in five years (just multiple by five) it's worth $2.5 billion.

How do you get $2.5 billion in taxes in five years out'a an industry that's only worth $2.5
billion in five years? Am I reading this wrong or something? The projected tax revenue
would have to assume that there are zero costs, and those involved would expect zero
profit, and would continue to do so year after year solely for the sake of paying everything
into the tax money hole. That's one Hell of a regulated system. Where do I sign up(?).....not.
 

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I think there will still be bootleggers of pot though. The old booze story tells us that.
Home Brew is purchased because the content is higher just like BC Bud will be more
in demand than government sanctioned grow.
Deregulate except for collecting the tax and let it ride.
 

Ron in Regina

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I think there will still be bootleggers of pot though. The old booze story tells us that.
Home Brew is purchased because the content is higher just like BC Bud will be more
in demand than government sanctioned grow.
Deregulate except for collecting the tax and let it ride.

I think so too. Some of the current growers & distributors might want even some profit,
which the "regulated system" doesn't seem to account for somehow. Right now they
get all the profit, and with the projected tax yoink in the O.P., They get none, but still
have to go through all of the same work with added rules, paperwork, bureaucracy, etc...
 

Mowich

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I think there will still be bootleggers of pot though. The old booze story tells us that.
Home Brew is purchased because the content is higher just like BC Bud will be more
in demand than government sanctioned grow.
Deregulate except for collecting the tax and let it ride.

I know a couple of people who use medical mj and wish they could go back to their old source, DG. So I would agree with you about BC bud. I support deregulation but not an attempt to legalize - keep the gov out of it.
 

Ron in Regina

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Oh....I get it now:

The researchers also point to data from Washington, which recently held a successful referendum to legalize pot, that suggests the same number of pot smokers in that state could bring in $2.5 billion in taxes over five years in a regulated system.

Yeah....the "researchers"....where very high when they came up with the projected
tax revenue's above. It's starting to make sense to me now. Yeah....Great Idea! Now
spark up another fatty so we can do some more research!
 

petros

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There are already medical pot shops across Canada paying taxes and so are their growers just like any other business. Tagging a sin tax on it will only keep the underground thriving.

Decriminalization is ONLY answer.

Yeah....the "researchers"....where very high when they came up with the projected
tax revenue's above. It's starting to make sense to me now. Yeah....Great Idea! Now
spark up another fatty so we can do some more research!


The govt says a pot plant is worth $1000 when they do a bust. An indoor grow-op averages 2oz a plant (if lucky) which is in reality only worth $200-$220 an oz but they don't factor in the 3 months rent, electricty, equipment and fertilizers.