Atlanta considers banning baggy pants

hermanntrude

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ATLANTA - Baggy pants that show boxer shorts or thongs would be illegal under a proposed amendment to Atlanta's indecency laws.


The amendment, sponsored by city councilman C.T. Martin, states that sagging pants are an "epidemic" that is becoming a "major concern" around the country.


"Little children see it and want to adopt it, thinking it's the in thing," Martin said Wednesday. "I don't want young people thinking that half-dressing is the way to go. I want them to think about their future."


The proposed ordinance would also bar women from showing the strap of a thong beneath their pants. They would also be prohibited from wearing jogging bras in public or show a bra strap, said Debbie Seagraves, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia.


The proposed ordinance states that "the indecent exposure of his or her undergarments" would be unlawful in a public place. It would go in the same portion of the city code that outlaws sex in public and the exposure or fondling of genitals.


The penalty would be a fine in an amount to be determined, Martin said.


But Seagraves said any legislation that creates a dress code would not survive a court challenge. She said the law could not be enforced in a nondiscriminatory way because it targets something that came out of the black youth culture.


"This is a racial profiling bill that promotes and establishes a framework for an additional type of racial profiling," Seagraves said.


Martin, who is black, said he plans to hold public hearings and vet the proposal through churches, civil rights groups and neighborhood organizations. The proposal will get its first public airing next Tuesday in the City Council's Public Safety Committee.


"The purpose of the paper is to generate some conversation to see if we can find a solution," Martin said. "It will be like all the discussions we've had around the value of the hip-hop culture. We know there are First Amendment issues ... and some will say I'm just trying to put young black men in jail, but it's going to be fines."


Makeda Johnson, an Atlanta mother of a 14-year-old girl, said she is glad Martin introduced the proposal. She does not want to see a law against clothing, but said she thinks teenagers are sending a message with a way of dressing that is based in jailhouse behavior.


Atlanta would not be the first city to take on sagging pants.


Earlier this year, the town council in Delcambre, La., passed an ordinance that carries a fine of up to $500 or six months in jail for exposing underwear in public. Several other municipalities and parish governments in Louisiana have enacted similar laws in recent months.
 

tamarin

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Yup, I saw a white kid here a few months ago (colloquially and omnipresently and prejoratively known as wiggers) holding up his pants in front so his ass could hang out behind. He thought he was top of the charts. It's precisely inane fashion statements and trends like this that allow ridicule its station as cultural icon.
 

hermanntrude

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very true, but you don't always get the results you want, take it from one who knows.

It may be the lesser of two evils to allow kids to hang their arses out of their trousers, rather than impose laws about what people should and should not wear.
 

shadowshiv

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What about people that wear their ballcap sideways? That looks absolutely idiotic!:lol:
 

shadowshiv

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And kids that wear toques all summer...
We can't outlaw stupidity but we can make its stay uncomfortable.

What about the people who wear sunglasses at night? Damn that Corey Hart and his corrupting influence...:lol:
 

s243a

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Baggy pants make it easier to move your legs if you are doing extreme sports like skateboarding or aggressive inline skating. The lack of a belt is another issue.
 

tamarin

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Maybe the issue should be clothing period. It is unnatural. Humans are less likely to have issues with each other if we simply abandon the practice.
 

tamarin

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Nah, we can't paper over the obvious!
When all is said and done the main reason we have clothing is this: to disguise our animal origins.
Without clothing, ironically, a new era of human modesty might evolve.
 

s243a

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Nah, we can't paper over the obvious!
When all is said and done the main reason we have clothing is this: to disguise our animal origins.
Without clothing, ironically, a new era of human modesty might evolve.
There are cleanliness issues to. One thing that is for certain is that without clothes some people would do a lot less bragging.
 

Ten Packs

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but should they be illegal or just laughed at by those of us who know better?

SOME things should be illegal - yes.

Absolutely.




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