Armed militia, Bundy brothers take over federal building in rural Oregon

[damngrumpy]

I watched this the other night, let it go for a week then go in and demonstrate
the weight of federal law. We hear people say oh those protester they should
be in jail. Most often protester are engaged in civil disobedience to demonstrate
the law is not fair. These people are armed and in violation of federal law and
may have set fires in a federal reserve therefore it is perhaps a criminal act.
That is not peaceful in fact they are claiming they want to evict the federal government
from the county. Again these are violations of law by armed men and therefore it is
not civil disobedience it is criminal. Put them in jail where they belong and class
being in a militia to be a criminal organization subject to RICO laws Yes clamp down
equating this to Bundy is a stretch at best

 

[EagleSmack]

. . . being white improves your chances of survival.

Well that's a myth but whatever gets you through the thread.

I watched this the other night, let it go for a week then go in and demonstrate
the weight of federal law. We hear people say oh those protester they should
be in jail. Most often protester are engaged in civil disobedience to demonstrate
the law is not fair. These people are armed and in violation of federal law and
may have set fires in a federal reserve therefore it is perhaps a criminal act.
That is not peaceful in fact they are claiming they want to evict the federal government
from the county. Again these are violations of law by armed men and therefore it is
not civil disobedience it is criminal. Put them in jail where they belong and class
being in a militia to be a criminal organization subject to RICO laws Yes clamp down
equating this to Bundy is a stretch at best

lmao... what a disaster of a post.

RICO huh? rofl

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Well that's a myth but whatever gets you through the thread.

Of course it is. Because there is no bias against non-white people. Never was, never will be.

 

[Cliffy]

 

[Bar Sinister]

Yep, exercising the Second Amendment to the Constitution certainly certainly make the US a safer place. Interesting isn't it that the local residents have asked the so-called militia to leave? I suspect that if they are simply ignored they will stop their efforts to terrorize their neighbours and pack up and move out one their own - after all the militia members must have jobs.

 

[Curious Cdn]

. . . being white improves your chances of survival.

Not in East L.A. it don't.

Well done. Nothing like a trite aphorism to prove you have nothing to say.

Always swim with a buddy.

... especially if you're white.

 

[Cliffy]

 

[gopher]

Looting and rioting in the streets was not enough? You think they should arm themselves. Should they attack the tyrannical government in Washington as well?

One more question.

Were you deprived oxygen at childbirth?

One would have thought you were intelligent enough to see the links to videos showing agent provocateurs at work in both places. Obviously, like Eagle and other right wing delusionals of this forum, you are too blinded by your agenda to see the truth when it is placed right in front of your face.


Oh by the way, did you notice when I pointed out previously that there was absolutely no violence when the NBP presented high powered rifles?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

One would have thought you were intelligent enough to see the links to videos showing agent provocateurs at work in both places. Obviously, like Eagle and other right wing delusionals of this forum, you are too blinded by your agenda to see the truth when it is placed right in front of your face.


Oh by the way, did you notice when I pointed out previously that there was absolutely no violence when the NBP presented high powered rifles?

I'm sorry, I thought you actually had a brain. My bad.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Before the Bundy brothers and fellow gunmen took over the remote headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and claimed it for private citizens, before there was even a federal wildlife refuge to occupy, there were the Northern Paiute, a tribe that hunted, fished, lived and worshiped in this harshly beautiful landscape for more than 13 centuries.


The area that is now the Malheur refuge was once their wintering grounds, but the Paiute were restricted to a reservation in 1868 after signing a treaty that would guarantee them federal recognition and protection from encroaching white settlers. Over time, that land allotment became even smaller, until the central Oregon Paiute were confined to a few thousand acres along what is now Highway 20 — the Burns Paiute Indian Reservation.


As the anti-government extremists dug in for their fifth day at the wildlife refuge, insisting that they would leave only once the land had been “returned to its rightful owners,” the Burns Paiute council convened at their tribal offices 30 minutes away. They all had one, angry question on their minds:


Who exactly did the occupiers think those “rightful owners” might be?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/01/07/tribe-to-protesters-occupying-oregon-wildlife-refuge-we-were-here-first-get-the-hell-out/?hpid=hp_no-name_morning-mix-story-f-duplicate%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Assbone of America, maybe.

 

[tay]

 

[EagleSmack]

Of course it is. Because there is no bias against non-white people. Never was, never will be.

And of course there is no bias against white people. Never was never will.

One would have thought you were intelligent enough to see the links to videos showing agent provocateurs at work in both places. Obviously, like Eagle and other right wing delusionals of this forum, you are too blinded by your agenda to see the truth when it is placed right in front of your face.

Videos showing agent provocateurs.... and we're delusional?!

 

[damngrumpy]

Right or wrong they cannot be allowed to use weapons to take over Federal Property
and flaunt the law. A take over unarmed to make a point is civil disobedience using
weapons is a criminal act. If they invade federal property with weapons is that not
terrorism After all they are militia

 

[EagleSmack]

Right or wrong they cannot be allowed to use weapons to take over Federal Property
and flaunt the law. A take over unarmed to make a point is civil disobedience using
weapons is a criminal act. If they invade federal property with weapons is that not
terrorism After all they are militia

I agree. The take over of Federal Property by unarmed civillians is a criminal act as well. That's why they get arrested. If they don't get pinched it is because the authorities are not enforcing the law.

And a case for terrorism could certainly be made.

this is not a terror issue its a mental health issue plain and simple

And you just said this in another post about a guy who went in a Police Department armed with intent to do harm. You're whacko.

 

[Cliffy]

 

[EagleSmack]

Thugs then?

 

[Twila]

Hiding your identity during a civil protest is an interesting way to demand your rights.

I wonder what makes a protester proud of their identity while protesting and what makes one want to hide their face in shame or is it just to avoid any negative backlash for their actions?

 

[damngrumpy]

There is a huge difference between the guy in Paris and this lot.
The guy in Paris takes a knife to attack a police station where
everyone else has guns. He had no plan to execute and therefore
is not mentally with us.
Now the lot in question the militia had a plan they executed and
systematically carried out complete with press statements.
I agree with you in the case of an unarmed group taking over is for
all intent and purpose a criminal act it is viewed as civil disobedience
at the end of the day a punishment in these cases is meted out but
rarely enforced it is more to get the point across. Armed occupation
is different and the fact they have declared themselves a militia
creates a whole different picture here.

 

[EagleSmack]

There is a huge difference between the guy in Paris and this lot.
The guy in Paris takes a knife to attack a police station where
everyone else has guns. He had no plan to execute and therefore
is not mentally with us.

In your opinion.

Then again you think US History books say WW2 started in 1942 and posted that so you clearly lack a plan and it would appear you are not mentally with us. IMO

 

[Twila]

In your opinion.

Then again you think US History books say WW2 started in 1942 and posted that so you clearly lack a plan and it would appear you are not mentally with us. IMO

that's what we're ALL doing here...expressing opinions.

That's pretty much the point of a forum...

what fell into your cornflakes and died?