Your superior insight has shown us all how wrong and evil we are and only you know the truth as revealed to you by a YouTube dream?
Armed militia, Bundy brothers take over federal building in rural Oregon
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No they aren't. Most of the starter group are millionaire ranchers.
And yes, most see their protest as you say 'stupid' but as others say illogical as the Hammonds do want their assistance.
So what tyranny do you see them protesting.......?
The Bundy Militia’s Particular Brand Of Mormonism
“I’m Captain Moroni, from Utah.”
That’s how one militiaman at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge responded to OPB’s Amanda Peacher when she asked for his name.
That name is not a silly response to deflect responsibility: In many ways, it encapsulates a deeply intertwined anti-federal sentiment mixed with Mormon symbolism. Captain Moroni is a crucial figure in the Church of Latter-day Saints. He’s also a heroic figure for anti-federalist extremists.
In the modern day west, Captain Moroni has become one of several powerful symbols for the Bundy militia’s anti-governmental extremism.
According to LDS scripture, Captain Moroni took command of the Nephites when he turned 25. Moroni innovated weaponry, strategy and tactics to help secure the safety of the Nephites, and allow them to worship and govern as they saw fit.
In LDS texts, Moroni prepares to confront a corrupt king by tearing off part of his coat and turning it into a flag, hoisting it as a “title of liberty.” This simple call to arms inspired a great patriotism in the Nephites, helping to raise a formidable army. Vastly outnumbered, the corrupt king fled.
Meanwhile, Bundy has called for “fellow patriots” to join him at the armed occupation. That call itself closely represents what Captain Moroni told his fellow Nephites in LDS scripture. And it’s part of the reason why “Captain Moroni” came to Burns.
The man identifying as Captain Moroni said he was inspired by the call, and that the inspiration was validated by God in the form of a flock of geese he saw flying.
“I just knew it was the right thing [to come to Oregon],” Captain Moroni said. “I’m willing to die here.”
Explainer: The Bundy Militia’s Particular Brand Of Mormonism . News | OPB
Protect themselves from who?
If they are legal gun owners and want to protect themselves from criminals they are well within their right. That is what we said. I guess that didn't fit your narrative because you continually twist what is actually said. But that is what Liberal Democrats do.
Whom, not who. You need to use the objective case in the sentence you posted, not the subjective case.
As the NRA has proven enough times, the Second Amendment was created to defend oneself against government tyranny which is what the NBP did and what I recommended for Ferguson and Baltimore. Anyone who denies that is full of shtt.
Lon.
And there is no need to create more violence against anyone no matter what God they believe in. This is more of a sit in not an armed invasion of an empty building despite what the excited news stations would like to see..
And this case is evolving to reveal another ludicrous statute in American justice that affects million and that is mandatory minimum sentences which both Conservative and Liberal voices seem to agree on.......
In 2012 they were nevertheless convicted under 18 USC 844(f)(1), which prescribes a five-year mandatory minimum sentence for anyone who "maliciously damages or destroys, or attempts to damage or destroy, by means of fire or an explosive," any federal property.
In rejecting Hogan's conclusion that the mandatory minimum was unconstitutional as applied to the Hammonds, the 9th Circuit noted that the Supreme Court "has upheld far tougher sentences for less serious or, at the very least, comparable offenses." The examples it cited included "a sentence of fifty years to life under California's three-strikes law for stealing nine videotapes," "a sentence of twenty-five years to life under California's three-strikes law for the theft of three golf clubs," "a forty-year sentence for possession of nine ounces of marijuana with the intent to distribute," and "a life sentence under Texas's recidivist statute for obtaining $120.75 by false pretenses." If those penalties did not qualify as "grossly disproportionate," the appeals court reasoned, five years for accidentally setting fire to federal land cannot possibly exceed the limits imposed by the Eighth Amendment.
Conservative view on mandatory min
https://reason.com/blog/2016/01/04/rancher-arson-case-that-inspired-Oregon
Liberal view on mandatory min
https://t.co/78xR0pHFur
(It’s worth noting that the trial judge, a George H.W. Bush appointee that the New York Times describes as a “politically conservative, devoutly Christian jurist” also believed that the minimum sentence was excessive. He was reversed on appeal.)
That said, the media really should do a better job at conveying just who these 'god fearing' people are...
Think Progress reports that Dwight and Steven Hammond abused a young member of their family (Dwight's grandson, Steven's nephew) on more than one occasion, forcing him to eat a full can of chewing tobacco, stranding him ten miles from home with no way back except to walk, and taking sandpaper to his bare chest after a cutting incident linked to the young man's clinical depression.
The sanding incident is corroborated by pictures of D.H.’s injures that were attached to the police report and included in record against Dwight and Steven Hammond at their trial for arson.
Meet The Child-Abusing Arsonists That Inspired The Oregon Militia Standoff | ThinkProgress
Whatever. We just call him "Deadeye."
True. As long as they're white. . .
See? This is how it works. You come up with a minor charge, then link it to all kinds of nastiness for which the alleged perpetrators have not been convicted, then you shoot 'em!
Works a charm.
Just like they did with Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Eric Garner, John Crawford, Rekiah Boyd, Vicky Weaver. . . the list goes on and on.
the gov charged some people for something the do themselves all the time and worse
the vics did their time
now the government is making a double jeopardy sentence - TERRORISM!
so the jail time will cause the people to lose their land, because the government wants the value of it for its wealthy criminal agenda
people are protesting because that obviously sucks majorly
the government is a-scard of the peeps
poor fluffy lil chickintards
obama has already killed americans - a 16 year old for certain - his own people - as we have seen, and brags about it ( not to mention the poison gas that he failed to pin on assad)
where is the soros color revolution and the drone bombers here?
say
Libya now has a privately owned central bank and its now open for business
the PRIVATELY OWNED US central bank needs collateral too
the vics did their time
now the government is making a double jeopardy sentence - TERRORISM!
so the jail time will cause the people to lose their land, because the government wants the value of it for its wealthy criminal agenda
people are protesting because that obviously sucks majorly
the government is a-scard of the peeps
poor fluffy lil chickintards
obama has already killed americans - a 16 year old for certain - his own people - as we have seen, and brags about it ( not to mention the poison gas that he failed to pin on assad)
where is the soros color revolution and the drone bombers here?
say
Libya now has a privately owned central bank and its now open for business
the PRIVATELY OWNED US central bank needs collateral too
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We know what you said... you just seem to have a difficult time remembering what we said.
When all else fails...
Looting and rioting in the streets was not enough? You think they should arm themselves. Should they attack the tyrannical government in Washington as well?
One more question.
Were you deprived oxygen at childbirth?