Arizona's Immigration Law

TenPenny

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I am not saying they are genetically inferior, but they are definitely not a very intelligent people in the dark continent (ON AVERAGE, there are some exceptions).

Oh, I think that needs repeating.

There is a common perception in Canada that Quebecers, especially those in favour of an independent Quebec, are some of the most racist, ignorant people that you could find north of Dixie.

I don't know why people would think that, though.
 

Icarus27k

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Interesting fact: the United States has no official language. Some states have declared official languages, but the federal government has never specified anything like that.
 

FreeQuebec

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I'm pretty sure that's completely inaccurate about La Raza. La Raza is a very mainstream, respectable lobbying group on Latino issues,

Are you really that naive? That is like saying the KKK is a respectable, lobbying group on White issues? Come on...

La Raza means the Race in Spanish, and you tell me they are not racists?
 

Machjo

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I agree you should speak/teach in their own languages. Yet you can't blame the failure to learn on that alone. Because I know I donated to a water system in Nigeria. They showed these villagers how to maintain fresh clean water, but they couldn't learn it. They could not learn how to use this water purifying machine, even though it has nothing to do with language, as learning to use a machine doesn't need to be language-based.

They just didn't have the mental capacity. Sadly, that is the truth. If you want to debate it, go ahead. But if someone just isn't too intelligent, they cannot be forced to learn advanced things. But even water purifying is quite easy. I don't know why they cannot learn it.

I am not saying they are genetically inferior, but they are definitely not a very intelligent people in the dark continent (ON AVERAGE, there are some exceptions).




Why not have those industries on our Native reservations? Those poor Natives there have no jobs, why not build factories and give them those economic opportunities?

I agree. We need to remove any barriers to the First Nations' economic development.
 

FreeQuebec

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Oh, I think that needs repeating.

There is a common perception in Canada that Quebecers, especially those in favour of an independent Quebec, are some of the most racist, ignorant people that you could find north of Dixie.

I don't know why people would think that, though.

We are the most educated, enlightened Quebecers you know? Do you deny that Africans are stupid on average?

If not, I'll buy you a plane ticket and you can go see them for yourself. How they live in squalor shanties, and their economies, 40% to 70% dependent on foreign aid for stability, otherwise they would collapse.

In other words, if Western nations stop giving money to Africa, Africa goes back to the Stone Age.
 

FreeQuebec

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I agree. We need to remove any barriers to the First Nations' economic development.

Us French actually care about Natives/First Nations. And he calls us racists? Ptah. Are the French the ones who had slavery? Are they the Nazis or KKK? No, no French have been massively "racist" ever.

We French actually had the best relations with Natives, because we did not want to trample on them and ignore their treaties, unlike you British imperialists.

Or does the Trail of Tears of our colonial history elude you? This nation was founded on racist thought, if not nationalist thought? But I guess it pays to live in a PC bubble.
 

TenPenny

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Us French actually care about Natives/First Nations. And he calls us racists? Ptah. Are the French the ones who had slavery?

You don't even know the history of the French. You're trying to claim the French were never involved in the slave trade? And the French care about Natives?

You are, as they say, not as intelligent as the horse shyte on the streets of old Montreal.
 

FreeQuebec

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I think you are beneath contempt.

Well that is something then. And I don't mean North Africa, that is different. But if I wanted to say that everyone is the same and we all bleed red, I'd be denying reality. But if you want to do that, go ahead.

I will deal with facts. And the fact is that many 3rd world nations have low IQs and thus they cannot sustain themselves. If intelligence is genetic, and stupid people breed too much, then the nation collapses.

It is not a race issue though, Eastern Europe also has many stupid people. And look at it? Hah.
 

FreeQuebec

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You don't even know the history of the French. You're trying to claim the French were never involved in the slave trade? And the French care about Natives?

You are, as they say, not as intelligent as the horse shyte on the streets of old Montreal.

How is it that 30% to 40% of Natives are Métis (half French, half Native)? Or that we did not come here looking to take over their land, but just to trade? Why did the French not settle west of Quebec in large amounts?

Because we did not trample on the First Nations people like the British did. French never had any slaves. Only indentured servants.
 

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TenPenny

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Because we did not trample on the First Nations people like the British did. French never had any slaves. Only indentured servants.
I take it that you got your education in Quebec.

The slave trade was regulated by Louis XIV's Code Noir. The revolt of slaves in the largest French colony of St. Domingue in 1791 was the beginning of what became the Haïtian Revolution led by Toussaint L'Ouverture. The institution of slavery was first abolished in St. Domingue in 1793 by Sonthonax, who was the Commissioner sent to St. Domingue by the Convention, after the slave revolt of 1791, in order to safeguard the allegiance of the population to revolutionary France. The Convention, the first elected Assembly of the First Republic (1792–1804), then abolished slavery in law in France and its colonies on 4 February 1794. Abbé Grégoire and the Society of the Friends of the Blacks (Société des Amis des Noirs), led by Jacques Pierre Brissot, were part of the abolitionist movement, which had laid important groundwork in building anti-slavery sentiment in the metropole. The first article of the law stated that "Slavery was abolished" in the French colonies, while the second article stated that "slave-owners would be indemnified" with financial compensation for the value of their slaves. The constitution of France passed in 1795 included in the declaration of the Rights of Man that slavery was abolished.
However, Napoleon did not include any declaration of the Rights of Man in the Constitution promulgated in 1799, and decided to re-establish slavery after becoming First Consul, promulgating the law of 20 May 1802 and sending military governors and troops to the colonies to impose it. On 10 May 1802, Colonel Delgrès launched a rebellion in Guadeloupe against Napoleon's representative, General Richepanse. The rebellion was repressed, and slavery was re-established. The news of this event sparked the rebellion that led to the loss of the lives of tens of thousands of French soldiers, a greater loss of civilian lives, and Haïti's gaining independence in 1804, and the consequential loss of the second most important French territory in the Americas, Louisiana, which was sold to the United States of America. The French governments refused to recognise Haiti and only did so in the 1830s when Haiti agreed to pay a substantial amount of reparations. Then, on 27 April 1848, under the Second Republic (1848–52), the decree-law Schœlcher again abolished slavery. The state bought the slaves from the colons (white colonists; Békés in Creole), and then freed them.
 

Icarus27k

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"I'm pretty sure that's completely inaccurate about La Raza. La Raza is a very mainstream, respectable lobbying group on Latino issues,"

La Raza, for those intellectually and/or politically challenged, means: The Race. And it does not mean a horse race or a car race but simply the so-called Hispanic Race. You know, the Native Americans who were too weak to hang onto their heritage and adopted a language that none of their grand parents spoke.

If La Raza is a respected, mainstream lobbying group, I weep for America.

I'm surprised people still believe this stuff. I thought all this La Raza stuff was debunked years ago. The la raza referred to in the name the National Council of La Raza roughly means "the people" or "the community". It clearly doesn't refer to a race because Hispanic and Latinos are ethnicities, not races.

People of any race can be Hispanic or Latino.

Soure: National Council of La Raza: Translation of La Raza




Like I said, La Raza is a mainstream, respected lobbying group on Latino issues. And these false claims about them have long since been debunked along with theories about a fake moon landing and Barack Obama being born outside the US.
 

FreeQuebec

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I'm surprised people still believe this stuff. I thought all this La Raza stuff was debunked years ago. The la raza referred to in the name the National Council of La Raza roughly means "the people" or "the community". It clearly doesn't refer to a race because Hispanic and Latinos are ethnicities, not races.

People of any race can be Hispanic or Latino.

Soure: National Council of La Raza: Translation of La Raza




Like I said, La Raza is a mainstream, respected lobbying group on Latino issues. And these false claims about them have long since been debunked along with theories about a fake moon landing and Barack Obama being born outside the US.

The KKK was also a respected lobbying group at one point. What is your point?
 

Icarus27k

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And the US doesn't have an official language because the US has never seen national identity as so important, or rather language being so important to national identity, that they have to declare one.
 

Icarus27k

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The KKK was also a respected lobbying group at one point. What is your point?

La Raza is not some racist violent group, yo. It has its headquarters on 16th Street in DC, and it lobbies Congress on legislation affecting Latinos. There is virtually no comparison to the KKK. That's just silly.