April Fools!! Here's your Carbon Tax F#ckers!!!

[Ron in Regina]

So. . . your point is that unless every country in the world reduces its carbon emissions, all at the same time, there's no point?

Your interpretation of what you think my point is…but running with that, Canada is 1/2 of 1% of the global population, living in a cold climate, responsible for 1.5% of global emissions, & taxing ourselves to our economic detriment for what amounts to a rounding error on the omissions of some of the more populated countries…to what end?

India is 17% of the global population, & American is 4%, & China is another 17%, & Russia with assumably a similar climate to Canada at 2-ish%, Brazil at 2-ish%, etc…& they’re hamstringing themselves with a carbon to what extent?

Anyway, where I’m going is that if Canada as a geographically large country (with about 40% of that covered in forests, if that matters any) with a relatively small population caught between China & America in a tariff pissing match, the double whammy of a carbon tax on top of that is a handicap we can little afford after the last 1/2 decade specifically of the last decade.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Your interpretation of what you think my point is…but running with that, Canada is 1/2 of 1% of the global population, living in a cold climate, responsible for 1.5% of global emissions, & taxing ourselves to our economic detriment for what amounts to a rounding error on the omissions of some of the more populated countries…to what end?

India is 17% of the global population, & American is 4%, & China is another 17%, & Russia with assumably a similar climate to Canada at 2-ish%, Brazil at 2-ish%, etc…& they’re hamstringing themselves with a carbon to what extent?

Anyway, where I’m going is that if Canada as a geographically large country (with about 40% of that covered in forests, if that matters any) with a relatively small population caught between China & America in a tariff pissing match, the double whammy of a carbon tax on top of that is a handicap we can little afford after the last 1/2 decade specifically of the last decade.

So vote for somebody who'll ax it. I suppose people who see Canada as leading the way in environmental action will vote to maintain it.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

 

[pgs]

So vote for somebody who'll ax it. I suppose people who see Canada as leading the way in environmental action will vote to maintain it.

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

We have and we do . Unfortunately we have gone over the tipping point and there are more takers than makers .

 

[Ron in Regina]

So vote for somebody who'll ax it. I suppose people who see Canada as leading the way in environmental action will vote to maintain it.

I will.

…& most people I know out here will too:

Lead, follow, or get out of the way.

 

[Taxslave2]

I suppose people who see Canada as leading the way in environmental action will vote to maintain it.

The national equivalent of self mutilation.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The national equivalent of self mutilation.

Is that what happened to you?

Makes sense.

 

[petros]

So. . . your point is that unless every country in the world reduces its carbon emissions, all at the same time, there's no point?

Do your non-carbon taxes scare off 100s of Billions of investment into energy extraction and distribution desperately needed by Europe, India and SE Asia? Energy that can eliminate burning coal and diesel for electricity drastically reducing CO2 and air quality.

The rest of the world doesn't get colder than Mars in winter and as warm as Texas in the summer. Taxing the necessities of life over a unproven hypothesis since there isn't a control planet handy is going too far.

 

[Taxslave2]

Do your non-carbon taxes scare off 100s of Billions of investment into energy extraction and distribution desperately needed by Europe, India and SE Asia? Energy that can eliminate burning coal and diesel for electricity drastically reducing CO2 and air quality.

The rest of the world doesn't get colder than Mars in winter and as warm as Texas in the summer. Taxing the necessities of life over a unproven hypothesis since there isn't a control planet handy is going too far.

There is really nothing wrong with burning coal either, with proper scrubbers. Cheap and easy to handle and store.

 

[petros]

There is really nothing wrong with burning coal either, with proper scrubbers. Cheap and easy to handle and store.

Carbon capture was invented in Sask. Natural gas is way way way more efficient and cheaper. Coal has better uses than burning it.

 

[pgs]

Carbon capture was invented in Sask. Natural gas is way way way more efficient and cheaper. Coal has better uses than burning it.

Better to use it than burn it at the well one would think .

 

[Ron in Regina]

“Now that the two major federal parties and their leaders have announced their plans for removing the carbon tax,” Moe said in a video, “Saskatchewan is taking the next step by reducing the industrial carbon tax rate charged in our province to zero.”

Moe said the move will give consumers a break and make industries more competitive as the United States imposes tariffs on Canada.

“The immediate effect is the removal of the carbon tax on your SaskPower bills,” Moe said. He went on to say removal will save hundreds of dollars a year for consumers and businesses.

“In the longer term, it will reduce the cost of other consumer products that have the industrial carbon tax built right into their price.”

Moe and the provincial government have been urging the federal government to remove carbon pricing altogether for a number of years.

Saskatchewan had stopped collecting the carbon levy on natural gas last year after Ottawa provided an exemption to home-heating oil users…as the Liberals we’re trying to accomplish the gift that Trump has recently given them.

Premier Scott Moe announces Saskatchewan will be 'first fully carbon tax–free province' — Global News

Moe said the move will give consumers a break and make industries more competitive as the United States imposes tariffs on Canada.

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[harrylee]

 

[Ron in Regina]

It’s appropriate that the Liberals’ consumer carbon tax ended on April Fools’ Day, because anyone who thinks Mark Carney and the Liberals winning the April 28 election means the end of paying carbon taxes is a fool.

Carney will fold the consumer carbon tax into, in his words, an “improved and tightened” industrial carbon tax known as the Output-Based Pricing System, where, in the real world, its costs will be hidden from the public.

Carney says his new system — details to come — will only target “big polluters” while incentivizing consumers and industry to lower their carbon footprints.

That’s quite the claim given that, in any carbon pricing system the public, either as consumers or taxpayers, ends up paying the added costs and Carney, the world’s leading corporate spokesman for carbon taxes, has always said they are too low.

Carney will also introduce a new carbon tax called a carbon border adjustment mechanism — a tariff on imported goods paid for by Canadian consumers if a re-elected Liberal government determines their country of origin is not doing enough to address climate change.

The good, if temporary news, is that the end of the consumer carbon tax Tuesday — credit, unrelenting political pressure by Pierre Poilievre and the conservatives on this issue — reduces the cost of gasoline by 17.6 cents per litre, or $8.80 per fill-up, for a 50-litre tank.

The cost of natural gas used for home heating will decrease by 15.25 cents per cubic metre, along with price decreases in 20 other forms of fossil fuel energy, except in Quebec which has its own federally-approved pricing system.

Under Carney’s carbon pricing plan, as far as we know, there will no longer be rebates save for a final one scheduled for later this month during his election run.

By contrast, Poilievre and the Conservatives have promised to scrap both the Liberals’ consumer and industrial carbon taxes, so the only way Canadians can get rid of them will be to elect a Conservative government on April 28.

As for years of rhetoric by the Liberals that anyone who opposed their national carbon tax was willing to let the planet burn, the U.S. has lowered its emissions at twice the rate of Canada without a national carbon tax.

EDITORIAL: Brace for new carbon taxes if Carney wins — Toronto Sun

It’s appropriate that the Liberals’ consumer carbon tax ended on April Fools’ Day, because anyone who thinks Mark Carney and the Liberals winning the April 28 election means the end of paying carbon taxes is a fool. Carney will fold the consumer carbon tax into, in his words, an “improved and...

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[petros]

It’s appropriate that the Liberals’ consumer carbon tax ended on April Fools’ Day, because anyone who thinks Mark Carney and the Liberals winning the April 28 election means the end of paying carbon taxes is a fool.

Carney will fold the consumer carbon tax into, in his words, an “improved and tightened” industrial carbon tax known as the Output-Based Pricing System, where, in the real world, its costs will be hidden from the public.

Carney says his new system — details to come — will only target “big polluters” while incentivizing consumers and industry to lower their carbon footprints.

That’s quite the claim given that, in any carbon pricing system the public, either as consumers or taxpayers, ends up paying the added costs and Carney, the world’s leading corporate spokesman for carbon taxes, has always said they are too low.

Carney will also introduce a new carbon tax called a carbon border adjustment mechanism — a tariff on imported goods paid for by Canadian consumers if a re-elected Liberal government determines their country of origin is not doing enough to address climate change.

The good, if temporary news, is that the end of the consumer carbon tax Tuesday — credit, unrelenting political pressure by Pierre Poilievre and the conservatives on this issue — reduces the cost of gasoline by 17.6 cents per litre, or $8.80 per fill-up, for a 50-litre tank.

The cost of natural gas used for home heating will decrease by 15.25 cents per cubic metre, along with price decreases in 20 other forms of fossil fuel energy, except in Quebec which has its own federally-approved pricing system.

Under Carney’s carbon pricing plan, as far as we know, there will no longer be rebates save for a final one scheduled for later this month during his election run.

By contrast, Poilievre and the Conservatives have promised to scrap both the Liberals’ consumer and industrial carbon taxes, so the only way Canadians can get rid of them will be to elect a Conservative government on April 28.

As for years of rhetoric by the Liberals that anyone who opposed their national carbon tax was willing to let the planet burn, the U.S. has lowered its emissions at twice the rate of Canada without a national carbon tax.

EDITORIAL: Brace for new carbon taxes if Carney wins — Toronto Sun

It’s appropriate that the Liberals’ consumer carbon tax ended on April Fools’ Day, because anyone who thinks Mark Carney and the Liberals winning the April 28 election means the end of paying carbon taxes is a fool. Carney will fold the consumer carbon tax into, in his words, an “improved and...

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Say No To Eco-Fascism!

 

[petros]

Say No To Eco-Fascism!

PS. April's tax rebate is the last payment of the 2023 tax year. We're still owed 2024. Carney will screw us out of $2400+ each.