April Fools!! Here's your Carbon Tax F#ckers!!!

Ron in Regina

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Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre is asking MPs to compel Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to sit down with the premiers to discuss the federal carbon tax at a first ministers' meeting.

Poilievre tabled a motion in the House of Commons that demands Trudeau "convene a carbon tax emergency meeting" with Canada's 13 provincial and territorial leaders to address the "ongoing carbon tax crisis and the financial burden it places on Canadians."

It also asks that Trudeau accept "plans for provinces to opt-out of the federal carbon tax to pursue other responsible ideas to lower emissions" — an ongoing request of some premiers who maintain they can fight climate change in their jurisdictions through measures other than a tax.
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Trudeau has so far rebuffed calls to meet with the premiers on the issue.
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Jagmeet, this one’s in your hands. Do you stand with the Liberals (?) or with Canadians?
1712706921052.jpegJustin Trudeau didn’t elect Jagmeet Singh, Justin Trudeau won’t re-elect Mr Singh.
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Trudeau has so far rebuffed calls to meet with the premiers on the issue.

Last week, in an interview with CBC Radio's The Current, Trudeau said he met with the premiers in 2016 and a pan-Canadian climate change plan was agreed to then. The plan included a price of carbon designed to drive down the country's emissions.

He repeated that line in question period Tuesday, saying the provinces agreed to go ahead with a carbon pricing regime eight years ago.

The Conservatives countered by pointing out that Trudeau is the only leader from that long-ago meeting still in power…at this point.
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While the federal government agreed to lift the tax on home heating oil last year to help mostly rural consumers (& mostly in the Maritimes in formerly Liberal vote rich provinces) who rely on this fuel source, Trudeau and federal Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault have said repeatedly they will not entertain any other exemptions to tax, which is the centrepiece of the Liberal government's climate change policy.
 

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Funny, I do not remember agreeing to a Carbon Scam Tax at any time. When Gordon Campbell brought in BC's Carbon Scam Tax to buy votes from the terminally stupid, he at least offset the carbon scam tax with reductions in other taxes, so the effect was a wash. Then we had a dipper government forced on us and not only did the Carbon Scam Tax go up, we got 23+ new and improved taxes to pay as well.
 

Ron in Regina

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Funny, I do not remember agreeing to a Carbon Scam Tax at any time.
Neither do the Premiers from that time from what I remember.

Brad Wall, who was premier of Saskatchewan in 2016, said in a social media post that he remembers that meeting in March 2016 very well. He said that Trudeau and the premiers agreed not to impose a consumer carbon tax until provinces were consulted.

Later that year, at a meeting of provincial, territorial and federal environment ministers, Wall’s environment minister and premier, Scott Moe, walked out of the meeting in October 2016. So, too, did the Liberal environment ministers of both Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador.

Trudeau’s unilateral decision to bring in the carbon tax while allegedly engaged in consultation with the provinces was also criticized by Alberta’s then-NDP premier Rachel Notley.

Now we have six premiers who have written to Trudeau asking for a meeting, including Andrew Furey the Liberal premier of Newfoundland and Labrador, and Trudeau falls back on a meeting eight years ago where he acted in bad faith. Trudeau is trying to claim that it’s only conservative premiers and conservative politicians who are pushing back against the carbon tax.

That claim discounts the letter from Furey and a request from a seventh premier, Manitoba’s Wab Kinew, a New Democrat, who has asked that the carbon tax be removed in his province.
When Gordon Campbell brought in BC's Carbon Scam Tax to buy votes from the terminally stupid, he at least offset the carbon scam tax with reductions in other taxes, so the effect was a wash. Then we had a dipper government forced on us and not only did the Carbon Scam Tax go up, we got 23+ new and improved taxes to pay as well.
In his 2016 meeting with the premiers, Trudeau made a promise he did not keep, saying he wouldn’t impose a solution. He also told the country before the 2019 election that his government had no intention of raising the tax beyond $50 a tonne, it’s now $80 and climbing.

The federal government’s promised carbon price relief for rural Canadians that was slated to start rolling out next week will most likely be delayed because the legislation enabling the changes hasn’t yet passed the House of Commons…somehow… with the NDP/Liberal non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition effectively creating a majority rule that was never voted for…?

The minority Liberals are responsible for the legislative agenda but on Tuesday shifted the blame for the slow progress on the bill to the Conservatives? The Liberal/NDP & NDP/Liberals vote in lockstep…so what the Hell?? Justin’s minority can do whatever it wants, purchases with early pensions guaranteed for NDP’s & Libs elected in 2019.
 

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Compelled speech. Well thats not very dictator like.

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OTTAWA—The federal government is frustrated by difficulties in getting banks to adopt its preferred name for carbon price rebates as the next round of payments starts to land in Canadians’ bank accounts, a senior official told the Star.

The rebates are a key part of the Liberal government’s controversial carbon pricing scheme. They’re meant to offset increased costs of heat, fuel and other goods by returning proceeds of the carbon levy directly to households four times a year, while preserving the incentive to reduce emissions that cause climate change.
 
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Compelled speech. Well thats not very dictator like.

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OTTAWA—The federal government is frustrated by difficulties in getting banks to adopt its preferred name for carbon price rebates as the next round of payments starts to land in Canadians’ bank accounts, a senior official told the Star.

The rebates are a key part of the Liberal government’s controversial carbon pricing scheme. They’re meant to offset increased costs of heat, fuel and other goods by returning proceeds of the carbon levy directly to households four times a year, while preserving the incentive to reduce emissions that cause climate change.
Canadian banks that refuse to identify the carbon rebate by name when doing direct deposits are forcing the government to change the law to make them do it, says Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault.

Guilbeault is taking the stand after Tuesday's federal budget promised to amend the Financial Administration Act so government payments accepted for deposit at Canadian banks will carry whatever title the government wants.

"The fact that they haven't been doing it now for many years led us to take this position," Guilbeault said.

His department has been battling with banks for almost two years over how carbon rebates are labelled when they are deposited directly into bank accounts.
 

petros

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Canadian banks that refuse to identify the carbon rebate by name when doing direct deposits are forcing the government to change the law to make them do it, says Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault.

Guilbeault is taking the stand after Tuesday's federal budget promised to amend the Financial Administration Act so government payments accepted for deposit at Canadian banks will carry whatever title the government wants.

"The fact that they haven't been doing it now for many years led us to take this position," Guilbeault said.

His department has been battling with banks for almost two years over how carbon rebates are labelled when they are deposited directly into bank accounts.
That is wrong on numerous levels. Steve needs a 72 hour psychiatric evaluation and heavy carbon based medication.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau warned Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe on Wednesday that the Canada Revenue Agency is “very, very good” at getting the money it’s owed??

“Premier Moe has decided that he doesn’t want to pay the money to the CRA that he is owing. We’re not going to penalize the people of Saskatchewan or in any jurisdiction for that because we have faith in CRA … to collect the money that is owed,” Trudeau said.

“I don’t know about you, but having an argument with CRA about not wanting to pay your taxes is not a position I want anyone to be in. Good luck with that, Premier Moe.”
Aren’t the carbon tax “rebates” for those that actually see them, trailing the payment into the government by at least 18 months or more? You know what else is about 18 months away? October 20th…sorry, October 27th, 2025 now.
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The Canada Revenue Agency is going to audit Saskatchewan for not paying carbon levies on home heating, Premier Scott Moe said Monday.

Moe said the agency has indicated it will look at Saskatchewan’s books to see how much the province owes in levies that weren’t paid to Ottawa.

“They will ask if they can look at the submissions we’ve made and for us to submit money they estimate may be owed,” he told reporters.

“We don’t believe there’s any dollars that are owed.”

The Saskatchewan Party government decided earlier this year to not remit the federal carbon price on natural gas, a move that breaks federal law.

Moe invoked the measure after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau exempted users of home heating oil from having to pay the levy in a move largely seen as politically motivated to boost Liberal support in Atlantic Canada.

The Canada Revenue Agency did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trudeau said last week the agency is “very, very good” at getting money owed and wished Moe “good luck” in dealing with the agency??
http://montrealgazette.com/news/nat...wan-for-not-paying-carbon-levies-premier-says
If I didn’t know better, I would almost think that sounds like a threat? Hmmmm….& who’s the target audience for this story in the Montreal Gazette? Hmmm…
 

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau warned Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe on Wednesday that the Canada Revenue Agency is “very, very good” at getting the money it’s owed??

“Premier Moe has decided that he doesn’t want to pay the money to the CRA that he is owing. We’re not going to penalize the people of Saskatchewan or in any jurisdiction for that because we have faith in CRA … to collect the money that is owed,” Trudeau said.

“I don’t know about you, but having an argument with CRA about not wanting to pay your taxes is not a position I want anyone to be in. Good luck with that, Premier Moe.”
Aren’t the carbon tax “rebates” for those that actually see them, trailing the payment into the government by at least 18 months or more? You know what else is about 18 months away? October 20th…sorry, October 27th, 2025 now.
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The Canada Revenue Agency is going to audit Saskatchewan for not paying carbon levies on home heating, Premier Scott Moe said Monday.

Moe said the agency has indicated it will look at Saskatchewan’s books to see how much the province owes in levies that weren’t paid to Ottawa.

“They will ask if they can look at the submissions we’ve made and for us to submit money they estimate may be owed,” he told reporters.

“We don’t believe there’s any dollars that are owed.”

The Saskatchewan Party government decided earlier this year to not remit the federal carbon price on natural gas, a move that breaks federal law.

Moe invoked the measure after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau exempted users of home heating oil from having to pay the levy in a move largely seen as politically motivated to boost Liberal support in Atlantic Canada.

The Canada Revenue Agency did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trudeau said last week the agency is “very, very good” at getting money owed and wished Moe “good luck” in dealing with the agency??
http://montrealgazette.com/news/nat...wan-for-not-paying-carbon-levies-premier-says
If I didn’t know better, I would almost think that sounds like a threat? Hmmmm….& who’s the target audience for this story in the Montreal Gazette? Hmmm…
We have an election this fall. Is Trudeau trying to influence the election?
 
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Ron in Regina

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Slow news day in Mtl?
Some geriatric Quebec singer died, whom I’ve never heard of, and it’s been capitalizing their news cycle for the last week. They have their own Priorities out in Quebec that are very different than the rest of Canada.

Trudeau appearing to being tough on Western Canada, isn’t going to pick him up any seats in Western Canada…or pretty much anywhere that has the carbon tax imposed on it….So that leaves BC and Quebec, & I don’t think his target audience was lower mainland BC in this case.
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Here’s an interesting letter in the Calgary Sun:

Over the past several years I have spent some big bucks into making my tiny 1978 three-bedroom abode in Silver Springs into a more energy-efficient domicile. I had the original windows replaced with the best triple-pane windows money could buy. I also purchased a high-efficiency furnace and added another two-feet of insulation in the attic. I’m not sure there was anything more I could do.

A couple nights ago I paid my current Enmax utility bill. The actual natural gas charges for the most recent billing period (Feb. 18-March 16) was $13.50, on the EasyMax Floating rate. However, total charges for my natural gas consumption came to $104.37, due to an additional $90.87 for various administration and other ancillary charges.

Include in those additional charges a carbon tax of $25.85, which is 1.9 times more than the actual cost of the natural gas I used. It’s bad enough to swallow and digest the various additional charges, but having to pay a carbon tax that is almost twice as much as the cost for the natural gas consumed is enough to make me choke.

Only $13.50 of natural gas consumed during the height of our frigid winter weather? I think that’s a pretty darn good indication of how energy efficient my home is. I think I’ve done my part.

So how in hell does our delusional PM and his Green Jesus of Montreal environment minister justify imposing a carbon tax that is so outrageously higher than the cost of the product being taxed? What is this, new Liberal math or just outright theft?
 
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Here’s an interesting letter in the Calgary Sun:

Over the past several years I have spent some big bucks into making my tiny 1978 three-bedroom abode in Silver Springs into a more energy-efficient domicile. I had the original windows replaced with the best triple-pane windows money could buy. I also purchased a high-efficiency furnace and added another two-feet of insulation in the attic. I’m not sure there was anything more I could do.

A couple nights ago I paid my current Enmax utility bill. The actual natural gas charges for the most recent billing period (Feb. 18-March 16) was $13.50, on the EasyMax Floating rate. However, total charges for my natural gas consumption came to $104.37, due to an additional $90.87 for various administration and other ancillary charges.

Include in those additional charges a carbon tax of $25.85, which is 1.9 times more than the actual cost of the natural gas I used. It’s bad enough to swallow and digest the various additional charges, but having to pay a carbon tax that is almost twice as much as the cost for the natural gas consumed is enough to make me choke.

Only $13.50 of natural gas consumed during the height of our frigid winter weather? I think that’s a pretty darn good indication of how energy efficient my home is. I think I’ve done my part.

So how in hell does our delusional PM and his Green Jesus of Montreal environment minister justify imposing a carbon tax that is so outrageously higher than the cost of the product being taxed? What is this, new Liberal math or just outright theft?
Outright theft , buy a generator and starve them .