AP uncovers a newer, bigger Obama scandal

Tecumsehsbones

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Last I heard, this was a Canadian forum. You know, "Canadian Content". Do we have to fight the American election over and bloody over??? The election is over. Obama won. Get over it!!!!

You're right. How DARE we talk about USAmerican politics in a forum titled US-American Politics?
 

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Funny... you always try to portray yourself as somewhat bipartisan (i.e both sides are corrupt) but you sure come down on the right pretty hard.




And when I condemned the stimulus plan, abortion, and the income tax you conveniently ignored it.

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Last I heard, this was a Canadian forum. You know, "Canadian Content". Do we have to fight the American election over and bloody over??? The election is over. Obama won. Get over it!!!!



The Obama haters are so obsessed with their hate for America and for Obama that they cannot control their emotionalism. That's why.

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I think in some ways you are right. Conservatives really don't have a real stake in the success of the United States of America any more. It's really no longer their country.


There are more Republicans in office in state wide positions due to all the gerrymandering they have done. Plus, the wealthy elites have $20-30 trillion sheltered in overseas accounts. Thus they have a huge stake in the continuation of the corporate welfare state.
 

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The Obama haters are so obsessed with their hate for America and for Obama that they cannot control their emotionalism. That's why.

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How ironic, it was just a few short years ago someone on this forum predicted that Dubya would be regarded in the future as the most hated president...............how quickly things change!
 

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President Obama's popularity ratings are far higher than Bush's were and even more so than those of the Republicans in Congress.

Bad news for the Obama haters. ;)
 

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George W. Bush's 2001-2009 Term Average: 49%

Presidential Approval Ratings -- George W. Bush | Gallup Historical Trends



barry term average to date: 49%

Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama | Gallup Historical Data & Trends




 

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Bush got a big spike because of 9/11 and his supposed heroism in the wars he created. Thereafter, it went downwards. Guess who won after that. :)

By the way, how are Congressional Republicans faring toward in their popularity??
 

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And when I condemned the stimulus plan, abortion, and the income tax you conveniently ignored it.

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The Obama haters are so obsessed with their hate for America and for Obama that they cannot control their emotionalism. That's why.

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There are more Republicans in office in state wide positions due to all the gerrymandering they have done. Plus, the wealthy elites have $20-30 trillion sheltered in overseas accounts. Thus they have a huge stake in the continuation of the corporate welfare state.
America was created based on the ideal of Individual Liberty. That ideal arose during the European Enlightenment. However, only about half of the people in the US still subscribe to that ideal.

What happens to a polity based on an ideal when the ideal dies? Ask the Soviets.

Bush got a big spike because of 9/11 and his supposed heroism in the wars he created. Thereafter, it went downwards. Guess who won after that. :)

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The Taliban or the Iranians? They seem to be humbling the established political order in the United States.
 

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BaalsTears; said:
America was created based on the ideal of Individual Liberty. That ideal arose during the European Enlightenment. However, only about half of the people in the US still subscribe to that ideal.

What happens to a polity based on an ideal when the ideal dies? Ask the Soviets.


The Taliban or the Iranians? They seem to be humbling the established political order in the United States.



~ individual liberty ~


They arranged to have Africans kidnapped into slavery and committed genocide against Native Americans.

What kind of liberty is that?



~ Soviets ~

Who financed their revolution?

See my previous link to CONSERVATIVE Professor Anthony Sutton.



~ Taliban ~

Financed by Reagan


~ Iran ~

What they do within their borders is their goddamn business, not Canada's or the USA's.
 

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~ individual liberty ~


They arranged to have Africans kidnapped into slavery and committed genocide against Native Americans.

What kind of liberty is that?

Are you referring to Locke, Hobbes, Rousseau, Montiesque, Burke and Jefferson? I didn't know they were slavers.

My friend there is a duality in life between good and evil. Both beat in all human hearts.



~ Soviets ~

Who financed their revolution?

See my previous link to CONSERVATIVE Professor Anthony Sutton.

Irrelevant.


~ Taliban ~

Financed by Reagan
The Taliban did not exist as an official organization until after the Reagan Presidency ended.


~ Iran ~

What they do within their borders is their goddamn business, not Canada's or the USA's.
I think you should tell that to Barack H. Obama. Are you aware he has proposed new economic sanctions against the innocent Iranian people. Obama is pure evil...muy malo y pendejo.
 

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You must have slept through 2010.

When is your 18th birthday?

Walter, THAT is information classified under ' for me to know and for you to find out..."

The American Republican party is Back in `1932 mode'- with no Wendel Wilkie or Thomas Dewey on the Horizon.

GWB's administration really, SERIOUSLY screwed up
 

gopher

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Are you referring to Locke, Hobbes, Rousseau, Montiesque, Burke and Jefferson? I didn't know they were slavers.

My friend there is a duality in life between good and evil. Both beat in all human hearts.





Irrelevant.


~ Taliban ~

Financed by Reagan
The Taliban did not exist as an official organization until after the Reagan Presidency ended.



I think you should tell that to Barack H. Obama. Are you aware he has proposed new economic sanctions against the innocent Iranian people. Obama is pure evil...muy malo y pendejo.













They were the founding members of the Taliban.



Jefferson bought and sold slaves as every one knows. So did Washington.



Yeah Obama should forget about Iran but so should everybody else.
 

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The Republicans don't get it, the more they go after Obama the more all those
immigrants, ethnic groups, women, the poor and lower middle class voters will
register for mid term elections. The current Congress is the most unpopular in
living memory and even the majority leader in Congress is afraid the electorate
will come out in force against the Republicans.
Scandals who cares about this nonsense. people care about maintaining their
medicare, seniors pensions and other benefits they will not vote for those who
continue these attacks justified or not.
Think about it scandal the IRS went after Tea Party folks and rich people. Those
urban voters voting for their entitlements are happy the IRS is ferreting out the
cheaters and those deemed impeding their own goals. Scandal Benghazi most
don't care its so far down the list of priorities its a blip on the radar screen.
These scandals are from the shrill voices that lost the last election and instead of
finding a way to create interest in their views they continue to attack the guy these
people love. It is just nuts plain and simple. Mind you the Democrats like it because
it makes their job easier. When will the political right, in America wake up?
The have set the alarm button to snooze and most Americans don't care about these
so called scandals and Republicans haven't figured that out yet.

Leftist organizations got their social welfare tax exemptions...like Media Matters which is a political organization. But the same standard was not applied to the conservative organizations. That's called oppression. Look at what you've written above. You are countenancing injustice against simple tea party groups that sought exempt status under the law. Don't you think you should be ashamed of your hatred?






They were the founding members of the Taliban.
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I would like to see the evidence which proves the truth of the matter you have asserted above. This is your opportunity to demonstrate good faith. Use it or be accused of peddling things which are not true.

When he starts a war based on pure bull**** then he'll be in the big leagues. So far the Obstructionist Party just look like a gang of idiots.
Did you ever hear about the war in Libya? Obama violated the War Powers Act. He acted without Congressional authorization.

Did you know most of the Americans who died in Afghanistan fell after Obama's escalation of the war in December 2009? I know the statistics and can prove this to be true.

Takes a while to unravel the mess made by idiot in chief.
Obama has had five years to get out of Afghanistan. He's planning on keeping between six and twelve thousand US soldiers in Afghanistan after 2014 under a status of forces agreement.

What do you think of that? Lots of Americans have died under Obama in Afghanistan. More than died before Obama's escalation.

Bush raised the scandal bar to new heights. Unless OB is massacring Americans by the thousands nothing he does will compete.

If OB had four terms the Obstructionists would still be claiming inexperience. The right has zero credibility.

Obama is protected by the color of his skin. The first black president can do anything except murder prostitutes. Amerika draws the line there.

It is truly black times for the political right. They must suffer a black-hearted Blackbeard who has blackened their seas by commandeering a Spanish galleon to pirate their birthright.
Indeed you are correct. The right will have the full power of the govt. used against them to benefit the constituencies of the left. Reminds me of the way ranchers treat livestock.

One thing NO Canadian leftist can explain is how it will be possible for the American public school system (which Canadian leftists all disdain) to produce New Amerikans who can compete internationally when the Americans are basically low skilled?

Perhaps it's time to step back from the Left/Right divide and kick azz on the losers in Washington and Ottawa and take our f*cking countries back before we lose everything.
Americans are only interested in fighting each other. The fate of the country is a subordinate concern for adherents of both camps.

The FOX news made for political propaganda Benghazi? Come on, that's a crock I itself.
Four Americans died in Benghazi. You dishonor their deaths. Their killers are still free.

President Obama's popularity ratings are far higher than Bush's were and even more so than those of the Republicans in Congress.

Bad news for the Obama haters. ;)
I think Obama and Bush favorability ratings have crossed. There was a news item about it today.
 

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Four Americans died in Benghazi. You dishonor their deaths. Their killers are still free.


More died under Bush and he did nothing.


~ favorability ~

Obama's better than Republicans today because everybody knows they are obstructionists.


Link to that photo of Reagan and identity of those who became Taliban previously posted.