Anti HST Campaign hits referendum threshold

[VanIsle]

There was a list of things that will now be taxed due to HST that never were before. I bet if you google that list you will find it and the truth with it. I'm not sure but from what I remember reading a few months back, high cost housing is charged lower tax than low cost but - starting July 1st. Actually the amout of tax (percentage) is the same but there is a ceiling on the high cost housing tax. They may have changed that but looking at the list put out by the government should give you the truth. I sincerely doubt that the woman in your dental office knows the full story. It's only about a week ago that Collin Hansen put a list out. It should not be too hard to find.

I have tried to post to this site 3 times and my post simply deletes. I don't know if quoting myself will work or not. Well - this works. I don't know why the rest would not. I had a good site, with a short post stating the HST items. It's there on all housing amongst many many other things.
As a side note: My shaw bill for this month states that starting July 1st, we will be charged HST for television. Then as I read my bill, they charged me the HST anyway even though it's not July and my bill does not go into July. Everyone should check their Shaw bills.

 

[JLM]

Delta – Former BC premier, Bill Vander Zalm, says his Fight HST team has completed a thorough analysis of the BC Government’s newly provided HST “list” that supposedly shows which items will be affected by HST, and says over 30 items are “missing in action”.
“We spent some time reviewing the list and have determined it is totally bogus. The government has, once again, deliberately tried to mislead the public when it comes to the HST. They just can’t seem to ever tell the truth,’ said Vander Zalm.
Vander Zalm says the list excludes almost all “services” that will now have HST applied to them.
“They left out items such as; catering; computer repair services; consulting services; commercial leases; fishing charters; home appraisals; investment counseling; limousine rentals; skiing; and even parking fees!”

Vander Zalm says that the HST applies to virtually every service that the GST applied to, so the government has no excuse for not knowing which items should have been included.
Vander Zalm says they are also playing games with HST applying on new home construction. He says the government list indicates “no change” to new homes under $525,000, with a confusing, small print footnote indicating “embedded PST of 2%” on new homes under $525K.
“The truth is, even after HST rebates new homes under $525,000 will have approximately 2% more tax added to them in HST. That means on a new house worth $300,000, buyers will pay an additional $6,000 in HST. On a big ticket item like a new home, that is a ton of money taken from consumers.”
“They’re calling it embedded PST. That is absolute trash. They eliminated the PST. It is 2% HST,” Vander Zalm explained.
“This all just points out the shenanigans they are playing. They are deceitful and incompetent. The real “HST Hit List” can be found on our web site at http://fighthst.com/revised-hst-hit-list-2010/. There are over 100 items where 7% more in HST will be applied than were previously under the PST. The government list has only 53 items, almost half the real number.”
“The BC Government list is bogus. The Finance Minister is bogus, and so is every MLA that supports this garbage,” concluded Vander Zalm.

Home buyers in B.C. are still burdened with the sales tax brought in during Glen Clark's tenure...................1% up to $200,000 and 2% for the balance above $200,000. Apparently (from what I can gather) taxes won't change for houses under $525,000 or so.

 

[JLM]

I have tried to post to this site 3 times and my post simply deletes. I don't know if quoting myself will work or not. Well - this works. I don't know why the rest would not. I had a good site, with a short post stating the HST items. It's there on all housing amongst many many other things.
As a side note: My shaw bill for this month states that starting July 1st, we will be charged HST for television. Then as I read my bill, they charged me the HST anyway even though it's not July and my bill does not go into July. Everyone should check their Shaw bills.

About what you'd expect from Shaw. When we moved here (based on good service in Grand Forks) we switched everything over to Shaw..............Huge mistake.

 

[bill barilko]

I signed the petition to posit my opposition to the Lieberals.

 

[gerryh]

The petition, or any possible referendum coming out of it will do no good what so ever. The people of BC have continued to give campbells crooked unholy alliance, known as the BC Liberal Party, a majority in the Legislature from day one. This has been tantamount to crowning campbell king of BC in his mind. The BC electorate needs to grow some balls.

 

[Kreskin]

Gerry, unlike Alberta who has voted for the same party since Christ was born, the electorate in BC has a history of wiping out political parties. I wouldn't underestimate the BC electorate's ability to grow balls.

 

[gerryh]

Gerry, unlike Alberta who has voted for the same party since Christ was born, the electorate in BC has a history of wiping out political parties. I wouldn't underestimate the BC electorate's ability to grow balls.

well....I left BC the week that campbell and his crooks got into power.....right after working the election...and so far all I have seen is everyone back there whining about him, and then returning him back to power...... that's 10 years almost now.... how long does it take to grow a set?

 

[JLM]

The petition, or any possible referendum coming out of it will do no good what so ever. The people of BC have continued to give campbells crooked unholy alliance, known as the BC Liberal Party, a majority in the Legislature from day one. This has been tantamount to crowning campbell king of BC in his mind. The BC electorate needs to grow some balls.

One major problem here, Ger. Who do we have who is fit to replace him? I can't think of anyone since Corky packed it in. The BAnshee is even worse than what we have. She'd do OKay knitting socks for seniors in the old folks home.

 

[Kreskin]

well....I left BC the week that campbell and his crooks got into power.....right after working the election...and so far all I have seen is everyone back there whining about him, and then returning him back to power...... that's 10 years almost now.... how long does it take to grow a set?

When was the last time Albertans did anything different? Pre World war II? You call that a set?

 

[VanIsle]

Gerry, unlike Alberta who has voted for the same party since Christ was born, the electorate in BC has a history of wiping out political parties. I wouldn't underestimate the BC electorate's ability to grow balls.

You are right and I'm sure you know that right now the talk is switching to "recall" rather than just a little referendum.

 

[JLM]

You are right and I'm sure you know that right now the talk is switching to "recall" rather than just a little referendum.

That will NEVER happen. Remember Paul Reitsma?

 

[gerryh]

When was the last time Albertans did anything different? Pre World war II? You call that a set?

what is it with you and albertans? I lived in BC from 1969 to 2001. I've lived in Alberta from 2001 to now. Do you have some kind of point to make or just your usual diflection tactics?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I signed the petition to posit my opposition to the Lieberals.

They are Liberals in name only, actually they are conservatives. In BC, Liberal Party is a morph of old Social Credit Party and as such, is a right wing party, more in line with Harper and gang, rather than with the federal Liberal Party.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Gerry, unlike Alberta who has voted for the same party since Christ was born, the electorate in BC has a history of wiping out political parties. I wouldn't underestimate the BC electorate's ability to grow balls.

Well yes, they do wipe out political parties. But the party of the right undergoes transformation, is born again under a different name and people vote it into power yet again. Whether it is the old Social credit Party or the new Liberal Party, what is the difference? It is still the party of the right.

Even if they do wipe out the Liberal Party, the right wingers from Liberal Party will simply form another party and get reelected.

 

[taxslave]

They are Liberals in name only, actually they are conservatives. In BC, Liberal Party is a morph of old Social Credit Party and as such, is a right wing party, more in line with Harper and gang, rather than with the federal Liberal Party.

Really not quite that simple. About half would vote liberal because of the name. They also vote Liberal federally. There are of course some right wing nuts and even a few fairly left. Willi wooden shoes has his own reasons for trying to pull down the Liberals. he is also about the last person other than a dipper you would want to trust.

 

[VanIsle]

That will NEVER happen. Remember Paul Reitsma?

No - I did not remember the name so I looked it up. I do remember the story. However, what I heard was via radio, not letters to the editor. It doesn't sound like any big threat at this point but I suppose that could change depending on the end result of the referendum. As you stated before though, and something we all know, there is no one to vote for. It's the only reason Campbell got in again. As for Corky - an even bigger loser in my opinion,

 

[taxslave]

There are some things that the anti HST people are not telling you as well. Food and health care products have some PST built into the retail price because stores pay PST on supplies, truckers pay PST on parts and fuel and on the trucks and on &on. This will be eliminated with the HST.
The province can also cut the percentage they get any time or remove any items they wish from the provincial portion. There is also a tax credit for low income.
In any event consumption taxes like the HST are a lot more fair than income taxes which tax initiative.

 

[gerryh]

Deflection of what?

We are not talking about Alberta, we are talking about B.C. If you would like to start a thread concerning your opinion of the Alberta electorate, go for it..

 

[Kreskin]

Unlike you, I was talking in general, not any particular person.

in otherwords, BCers arte getting exactley what they voted for.

No they aren't getting what they voted for, and that's why this will get interesting.

 

[gerryh]

No they aren't getting what they voted for, and that's why this will get interesting.

They aren't? Hmmmmmm...... why is it that everyone over there is so surprised by campbell, yet I am not?