Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

EagleSmack

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I think the bible is a book and Christianity is a religion. Neither is an idea.

Generalizing either would be a silly idea, deserving of ridicule. Heck the closest true statement one can make about all Christians is "They believe that faith in Christ is necessary for salvation," and even that probably isn't true of all sects. That is why racism is stupid. The only true statement that can be made about all black people is, "They have dark skin."

I think the bible contains a lot of silly ideas. Among them the ones about slavery, bats being birds, Paul thinking that women should wear veils. I think most Christians recognize these as silly ideas as well.

Why are dancing around the question?

Never mind.

So this guy Savage is in the right ridiculing Christians and the Bible while teaching an anti-bullying course?
 

Niflmir

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Why are dancing around the question?

Never mind.

So this guy Savage is in the right ridiculing Christians and the Bible while teaching an anti-bullying course?

He didn't ridicule Christians or the bible. He ridiculed some ideas which appeared in the bible. Specifically ideas about homosexuality, menstruation, masturbation, and food; ideas that most people discount even though the appear in the bible. He then ridiculed people for being sensitive about having these silly ideas called BS when the whole point of the discussion is that people were using these ideas to beat up gay people.

Not ridiculing the bible or Christians. Ridiculing silly ideas in the bible and oversensitive Christians that think the sanctity of the bible is more important than the health of a gay person.
 

Tonington

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Lots of things do. At the end of the day, if the species no longer uses the organ for the purpose it was intended, the species fails to thrive.

The species includes lots of members. In our case, billions. A few per cent of those billions won't (at this point) cause the species as a whole to wither and die.

Some behaviours are from an evolutionary perspective neutral. They don't cause pressure one way or the other. Though of course if the proportion changes, then that can make the previous statement null.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.... there's a valid comparison. :roll:

I can dig up all kinds of posts, not just about dead US soldiers, where EagleSmack ridicules people, instead of, as he put it, 'simply disagreeing with them'. The notion that EagleSmack is a poster who doesn't believe in ridiculing people he finds ridiculous, is itself, patently absurd.

You don't see a difference? Really?

Nope. It's your words here. You ridicule people all the time when they say something you find stupid or idiotic (one of your favourite adjectives). I thought you as a person who believes in free speech. Someone who would have ignorant and foolish people be allowed to make their ignorant remarks for all of us to see, and to treat them accordingly.

And for the record EagleSmack, it's not just jbee making comments about dead US soldiers that has prompted ridicule from you. How about some examples:

Well that wins a "Dumb Post" Award.

"My fear is that the island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize."

The whole island of Guam tipping over because of the addition of 8,000 Marines and their families.

What an idiot.

Here's one where you give it to gerryh

I'll give a Gerry like response...

I'm not running around the world threatening anyone and everyone that doesn't walk the way I tell them to.

See how idiotic you sound?



Surely you know that any post you made can easily be tracked down with a search engine?
 

Locutus

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ARLINGTON — Hundreds of Texas educators, politicians and LGBT activists attended the White House LGBT Conference on Safe Schools and Communities to hear about the Obama administration’s efforts to fight bullying and prevent hate crimes and to discuss local progress. [...]


Holder said the administration has “created a record we can all be proud of” in terms of protecting LGBT rights and “a sense of momentum that today we stand poised to build upon.”


“This morning I’m proud to join you in affirming a very simple truth and renewing this administration’s commitment, as well as my own, to an essential idea that no one, no one, deserves to be bullied, harassed or victimized because of who they are, how they worship or, and hear it when I say it now, or who they love,” Holder said.


Holder said the “It Gets Better” campaign is more than a slogan, but something the administration is backing up with “robust action,” like the five-year settlement with the Anoka-Hennepin school district reached March 5.


White House LGBT conference continues momentum of anti-bullying fight
 

gerryh

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I can dig up all kinds of posts, not just about dead US soldiers, where EagleSmack ridicules people, instead of, as he put it, 'simply disagreeing with them'. The notion that EagleSmack is a poster who doesn't believe in ridiculing people he finds ridiculous, is itself, patently absurd.


What's patently absurd, is that fact that you appear to be too dense to figure this one out. Here's the difference.... can ya see it yet me boyo?


So this guy Savage is in the right ridiculing Christians and the Bible while teaching an anti-bullying course?
 

DaSleeper

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Maybe it's just me, but ridiculing someone in a forum where we stand on equal footing and anonymity is more than a step but a long jump away from someone giving a lecture (almost in authority) or a teacher doing it to a bunch of students.
The man was an ASS and the rest of the student if they had any class should have walked out in support of their fellow student, instead of like a crowd watching a bully without doing anything.

They must have been Liberals
 

BruSan

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I'm not sure what annoys people about this whole story. We have Savage calling the parts of the bible that say gay people should be killed bull. Well, that is completely true. Killing someone, because they had gay sex? An consensual act between two people that impacts nobody else can never deserve death. The idea is BS.

Calling people pansy-assed when they can't handle you pointing that out? A bit harsh, sure, but when you consider that the speaker is the target of actual violence because of the silly belief he just called BS, it seems quite reasonable.

Bullying? Hardly. Some Christians, especially the ones at Fox, just like to feel victimised.

What annoys me is the fact this is a man who'se had the opportunity to form some rigid opinions and be disabused of others. He's had the time to grow through experience. His audience at this speaking engagement haven't or at least some of them hadn't. He took advantage of their immaturity and proceeded to hit them where it hurts. Why?

Before we ascribe some higher purpose to his approach I simply put it down to using the same agenda with every audience. Not a very smart thing to do for one who wishes to be respected for standing on his laurels. He's stuck on shock confrontation being the only tool in his kit. Like I said before a "one trick pony".

Considering his audience age and approaching them from the position of having a point to make regarding bullying of gays; he would have been better served by keeping his fists in his pockets. Aprising them without the buzzwords of "bullshyte" etc., of the inconsistancies of certain passages in the bible as an example of things they might wish to consider and question for the future would have been a far better approach than instantly pissing on their beliefs and calling them pansies when they showed umbrage.

In short; he did the classic "I'm experienced, you're not, so I get to disrespect you and you have to sit and like it or else you're a pansie"

After what may have been a long hard road to get where he is; I'm quite frankly surprised he would have resorted to that thing he hates the most to make a point with younger folk. A bully with a worthy mission is still a bully.
 

gerryh

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After what may have been a long hard road to get where he is; I'm quite frankly surprised he would have resorted to that thing he hates the most to make a point with younger folk. A bully with a worthy mission is still a bully.


and "may" is the key word here. So far I can find nothing stating or claiming that this ignoramus was "bullied" growing up. What I think he is, is someone that has taken advantage of a situation to make a few bucks for himself, and that is all he is.
 

Tonington

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What's patently absurd, is that fact that you appear to be too dense to figure this one out. Here's the difference.... can ya see it yet me boyo?

You believe that someones beliefs can be ridiculed? Where is the intelligence in that? How about just disagreeing with their beliefs and not ridiculing them?

Maybe Gerry you're too far into your ideological spiral to be able to spot the hypocrisy. Ignore the quoted posts if you like, ES certainly is not above ridiculing. He's heaped it on yourself multiple times. Understand? Apparently not.
 

gerryh

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Maybe Gerry you're too far into your ideological spiral to be able to spot the hypocrisy. Ignore the quoted posts if you like, ES certainly is not above ridiculing. He's heaped it on yourself multiple times. Understand? Apparently not.


Didn't think you'd see the difference. Oh well, maybe when you grow up.
 

Kreskin

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It doesn't surprise me that the kids couldn't handle it. They grew up trained to think that they and only they had the God-given right to judge others. How dare he criticize those Christian 'values'.
 

gerryh

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It doesn't surprise me that the kids couldn't handle it. They grew up trained to think that they and only they had the God-given right to judge others. How dare he criticize those Christian 'values'.


There ya go... it's the kids fault. They should have just "sucked it up buttercup"... right Kreskin?
 

Kreskin

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Riiiight...... you're the one that can't see what this dumb shyte did wrong and "I'm" the stunned asshole.......
Awwwwe, did he hurt their feelings when he told them they should be on birth control? The stunned retards have no problem telling people they shouldn't be on it, so what's the difference?