Anouncing a new web site: The Science of 9/11
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On Sunday night, September 6, at 9pm, the National Geographic Channel is airing a show entitled "9/11: Science and Conspiracy" debunking the conspiracists claims.
National Geographic TV Debunks 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Monday | NewsBusters.org
National Geographic TV Debunks 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Monday | NewsBusters.org
Here is a good paper on 9/11 from Protec, who are world-renowned demolition experts. As you might imagine, they debunk many of the conspiracists' arguments.
http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf
http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC STUDY 8-06 w clarif as of 9-8-06 .pdf
Do you think that will change the minds of the experts we have here? :roll: Those Protec guys are the best.
And anyone incapable of critical thought and reason, will counter that with...
Reply to Brent Blanchard's 'A CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THE COLLAPSE OF WTC TOWERS 1, 2 & 7'
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But Anna, C/T's don't understand facts, so they rely on other opinions of them to get their story.
They're being conned.
That's true. A similar model might be made from some old power transmission tower.
Build a # number of different fires at different temperatures and it will or will not collapse. The building designers say they allowed for such events, multiple hits even. The Empire State building never collapsed more than what was originally damaged in the collision.
All that dust was concrete, where was that concrete if not in the floors themselves. That could be light-wieght (several rock sizes below what is used in the core in places like the stairwell. These would have been as much rebar as they were concrete. All those itty bitty pieces you can see are steel-beamsleaving the scene a at 'fairly' high rate of speed If it was collision of multiple floors then that weight has to be reduced from the weight that is supposed to be mashing entire floors at almost free-fall speed.Dust that is moving away does not add ant crushing weight to any equation.
"Blanchard avoids discussing most of those features (the thorough pulverization, explosiveness, and rapidity of the Twin Towers' destruction) and instead appears to address two of the features (symmetry and jets of dust) but with only muddled and convoluted explanations."
To the conspiracy nutters, "Dick and Jane" is muddled and convoluted.
Or one could contact the companies that had renovation contracts prior to 911 and ask them for all their paperwork on contracts and invoices. Might even check to see if they are better off today that they were back then. That way all the bases have been covered.
I don't know how many of you actually saw the collapse of the WTC, but on that morning I was visiting a friend just across the East River in Brooklyn and actually witnessed the second plane go into the tower. Then we watched them both collapse. There were no secondary explosions after the initial impact, just fire, smoke then the noise of the buildings tearing themselves apart as they collapsed from impact point top down.
Iron, I watched it unfold, live on TV. I've met people who were there, first responders and civilians. No one I have met, thinks that anything other then two planes, brought the towers down.
I work with steel, have since High School. I'm Six Nations, with ties to Mohawk High Steel. The very pool from which the construction companies drew from, when they hired high steel workers to build the WTC. I presently work for the company that modernized the elevators in the WTC twin towers in the 90's. I have been doing business with them for years. And all this is irrelevant. All one has to do is learn a few simple facts, and the whole sill theory comes falling apart.
I have said it before, I'll say it again, people need to syop listening to others opinions. They need to do some of their own research. Start with the local Fire Station. Talk to a Fireman. From there, hit the library. Read about the distinct construction and archatecture of the TT's. It's as simple as that.
Do you mean like this company?
Turner Construction, who supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post-9/11 Ground Zero clean-up and performed extensive renovations within the World Trade Center towers just prior to 9/11, was in fact performing unspecified renovation work throughout the WTC complex until the very morning of September 11, 2001. The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001. A December 2000 WTC property assessment described required renovation work to be completed within one year, upon steel columns within elevator shafts of both WTC towers that was immediately pending or already underway.
Terror devastates A/E/C firms
12 employees of Turner Construction were located in an office in the third subbasement of Tower 1, the north tower. Turner had been performing renovation work in various parts of the center and had occupied various office spaces.
Terror devastates A/E/C firms.(World Trade Center attack)(Brief Article) | Article from Building Design & Construction | HighBeam Research In 1997 Turner Construction also constructed the new headquarters for the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA). The Indian Head Naval Surface Warfare Center, a laboratory managed by NAVSEA was described during the 1990s as the "National Center for Energetics", the "Pentagon's jargon to broadly describe explosive materials, propellants and pyrotechnics" and as the "only reliable source of aluminum nanopowders in the United States".
Naval Surface Warfare Center at Indian Head Mourns Loss of Its Energetic Champion | Article from The Washington Post | HighBeam Research Turner Corporation 1997 10-K Report
During 1997, the company completed work on ... the Naval Sea Systems Command Headquarters (NAVSEA) for the Navy in Washington, DC.
Buckmaster Annual Reports - Turner Corporation 1997 10-K Report Naval Sea Systems Command
Naval Sea Systems Command - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Top Ten Connections Between NIST and Nano-Thermites
http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/Ryan_NIST_and_Nano-1.pdf Previous work performed by Turner Construction at the WTC included fireproofing of the only floors that were struck by United and American airlines flights on September 11, 2001 and that later burned and "failed".
Another amazing coincidence related to the WTC | 911Blogger.com A December 2000 WTC property assessment recommended immediate renovation work upon steel columns contained within elevator shafts of both WTC towers:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/wtc1_core.jpg
You are familiar with this photo perhaps, which is the stronger part of the building, the inner core or the outer shell? Simple as that.
Hey they just built 30 new schools in US too. OMG will they blow up too!!!???
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Try again, I don't buy silly unfounded accusations.
Your letters, meaningless. The accusations of some documenntation being destroyed in the collapse and others not. Only in a rhelm of silliness, would anyone think every single scrap of documentation be kept in one facility.
Please by all means explain to me what that is, the construction type, the material specs, and the joining methods.
Wow. So you'd agree that this tragedy was taken advantage of by nearly all states on the globe?
I've seen a lot **** come from this tragedy but i've seen some good.
There is always benefit from tragedy and indeed many have taken financial or social control to new heights.
For example because of the communist revolution, I exist.
If my grandfather didn't run from the Bolsheviks to Canada who was offering free land to E. Europeans I wouldn't exist and Western Canada would have taken another 20 years to settle and develope into the agro giant we now are.
No matter who pulled this off or for what reason the fact remains a fact that social order has become a global priority and dammit we are all benefitting no matter how ugly the mess that tiggered it.
We've lost a lot of freedoms and that sucks but have we not gained something along the way?
I've seen a lot **** come from this tragedy but i've seen some good.
There is always benefit from tragedy and indeed many have taken financial or social control to new heights.
For example because of the communist revolution, I exist.
If my grandfather didn't run from the Bolsheviks to Canada who was offering free land to E. Europeans I wouldn't exist and Western Canada would have taken another 20 years to settle and develope into the agro giant we now are.
No matter who pulled this off or for what reason the fact remains a fact that social order has become a global priority and dammit we are all benefitting no matter how ugly the mess that tiggered it.
We've lost a lot of freedoms and that sucks but have we not gained something along the way?