Another lie debunked

Retired_Can_Soldier

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And you're smart for telling me this, thank-you.

Well explain yourself then Walter. First of all Lung cancer, throat cancer mouth cancer are not a Left and Right issue. Cancer doesn't discriminate who it kills based on politics. What it does do is destroy lives and in some cases it strikes down folks who live very healthy lives, but in many cases people who smoke are extremely susceptible to Cancer. You'd think with all the science out there young people wouldn't take up smoking and people would get off those darts, but then there stupid studies like this and the knuckleheads who quote them.
 

damngrumpy

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I used to be a smoker a lot in a day too, I quit in June of 1996
my wife quit smoking and ended up with COPD and a serious
case of it too. Its not about left and right its about smoking and
being a pest to others Manners that's the word I 'm looking for,
I don't care if people smoke and they should have a smoking
room and son on but not in food areas and at public venues.
I don't think the government should tell people they can't smoke
and then tax the hell out of them for doing it. At the same time
we know smoking is not the best for your health and one sturdy
does not make reality real.
 

Sal

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I know of three people who have died of lung cancer. One smoked but apparently his lung cancer was caused from a chemical explosion he experienced in the work place...the two other people that I know of who have died of lung cancer did not smoke...I don't know what politcal persuation they were but lung cancer did not seem to care. It killed all three.
 

Tonington

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Point of order. From the study at the journal's website:
The only category of exposure that showed a trend toward increased risk was living in the same house with a smoker for 30 years or more.

Therefore, it's incorrect to state no clear link between second hand smoke and cancer. The risk appears to be small, and dependent on the exposure, obviously. Though from home the study is behind a paywall, so it's not really possible to look with a critical eye into the methods used.

That said, cancer is not the only disease associated with exposure to the smoke from cigarettes, and there is clear evidence of this. For children who 'passively smoke', there are documented and robust findings of increased risk for developing asthma, for contracting lung infections, for impaired growth, reduced pulmonary and breathing function, and many many more.

It's far more difficult to study the effects in adults, who have confounding exposures to many other risk factors of respiratory disease. Walter, as someone who makes a living at this, it behoves me to inform you that one study is rarely the definitive answer.
 

#juan

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Secondhand Smoke and Cancer

Key Points


  • Secondhand smoke (also called environmental tobacco smoke, involuntary smoke, and passive smoke) is the smoke given off by a burning tobacco product and the smoke exhaled by a smoker.
  • At least 69 chemicals in secondhand smoke are known to cause cancer.
  • Secondhand smoke causes lung cancer in nonsmokers.
  • Secondhand smoke has also been associated with heart disease in adults and sudden infant death syndrome, ear infections, and asthma attacks in children.
  • There is no safe level of exposure to secondhand smoke.
 

Goober

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Point of order. From the study at the journal's website:


Therefore, it's incorrect to state no clear link between second hand smoke and cancer. The risk appears to be small, and dependent on the exposure, obviously. Though from home the study is behind a paywall, so it's not really possible to look with a critical eye into the methods used.

That said, cancer is not the only disease associated with exposure to the smoke from cigarettes, and there is clear evidence of this. For children who 'passively smoke', there are documented and robust findings of increased risk for developing asthma, for contracting lung infections, for impaired growth, reduced pulmonary and breathing function, and many many more.

It's far more difficult to study the effects in adults, who have confounding exposures to many other risk factors of respiratory disease. Walter, as someone who makes a living at this, it behoves me to inform you that one study is rarely the definitive answer.
I have studied your study of the studies and find your study to be correct.
 

Goober

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Leftists are disease in western civilization and influnced the whole world mixed nationalism by USSR.Left came from labour union.The theory of left came from "society justice instead of nature law justice".

And this has what to do with the price of tea in China??