And They're OUT! The UK leaves the EU.

JLM

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Hooray!

It is now 5:40 AM in London, and the LEAVE side leads by over a million votes.

Congrats to Britain for cutrting herself loose from a sinking continent.


Do you think they will be any better off in the long run?

Once I came to understand what the EU really is all about and how it is governed, Jine, I simply couldn't and still can't get my head around why any country would voluntarily give up so much of their autonomy to a bunch of bureaucrats. It boggles my mind.


Are we not basically ruled by a bunch of bureaucraps?
 

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One day we'll all have complete control over our lives in the perfect libertarian utopia.

And then Colpy woke up.
 

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Labour MP David Lammy calls for Parliament to overturn the Brexit vote. LOL

http://news.sky.com/story/1717556/la...o-block-brexit

Corbyn sacks Benn from the Shadow Cabinet over plot to stage a leadership coup.

http://news.sky.com/story/1717625/co...eadership-coup

Politics getting very paranoid now.

Has politics ever been so exciting ?

Shadow cabinet members resigning as they state they have no confidence in Corbyn. Threatening if he doesn't resign, there will have to be another Labour leadership election. Labour in open revolt.


http://news.sky.com/story/1717625/la...byn-sacks-benn

can you fukking believe that bollocks?

self serving bastard.


Because it was traditional Labour voters who deserted them in the referendum vote and voted leave, Corbyn is being blamed. The media are predicting more of the Shadow Cabinet will resign today and Corbyn will then be forced to resign with a no confidence vote.

This referendum has shaken Westminster to the core. Sky News is all over this now. Tories and Labour in disarray, both facing leadership contests and a possible General Election before the year is out.

The people have spoken !

:lol:
 

Blackleaf

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The massive earthquake in the political world - the biggest for decades - caused by the vote for Brexit has claimed not just the political life of the Prime Minister and maybe the Chancellor but also a lot of victims in the Labour Party. It's utter carnage. It's the first time probably forever that BOTH main parties - Labour and Tories - are in meltdown.

The whole gist of the civil war starting to break out in the Labour Party is that its left-wing leader Jeremy Corbyn - who for years was a eurosceptic but was on the Remain side in this campaign - put in a poor performance in the EU referendum battle and showed little enthusiasm to try and keep Britain in the EU. Many are accusing him of being, outwardly, europhile but, in reality, a secret eurosceptic.

Go NOW Jeremy! Corbyn faces full-blown Labour coup as THREE shadow cabinet members resign saying he's not up to the job after he fires Hilary Benn



UPDATED Jeremy Corbyn is facing an all-out mutiny after he sacked shadow foreign secretary Hilary Benn (bottom left) in a midnight phone call for plotting against him. Shadow health secretary Heidi Alexander (second left), equalities spokeswoman Gloria de Piero (second from right) and shadow Scottish secretary Ian Murray quit Jeremy Corbyn's frontbench this morning saying he was not able to lead the party effectively. They are expected to be followed out by half the Shadow Cabinet later today as Labour MPs try to oust Mr Corbyn (top picture) amid fury over his poor performance in the EU referendum battle. Mr Benn said today that Mr Corbyn had shown little 'enthusiasm' during the failed campaign against Brexit. 'He is a good and decent man but he is not a leader and that is the problem,' Mr Benn said, ruling out standing for the top job himself. But John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, said Mr Corbyn was 'going nowhere'.
 

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Blackleaf

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A blow for the Scottish nationalists:

NON! EU slaps down Sturgeon: SNP leader dramatically announces she wants 'immediate discussions' to STAY in EU... but she is humiliated as Brussels says 'No, that's not how it works'

Nicola Sturgeon said she wanted to 'protect Scotland's place in the EU'

But Brussels civil servants snubbed her, saying whole of UK must exit

Sturgeon called for another Scotland referendum during negotiations

But Brussels said if it voted to leave, it would have to re-apply for EU

By Michael Blackley For The Scottish Mail On Sunday
26 June 2016

The EU yesterday dealt a devastating blow to Nicola Sturgeon's new bid for independence - by ruling out any prospect of Scotland retaining its EU membership when Britain leaves.

The SNP leader yesterday said she is seeking 'immediate discussions' with Brussels to 'protect Scotland's place in the EU'.

But The Scottish Mail on Sunday can reveal that the European Commission, the executive body of the EU, has already ruled there is no option but the whole of the UK exiting following Thursday's shock Leave vote.


After the Brexit vote, the SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon said she was seeking ‘immediate discussions’ with Brussels to ‘protect Scotland’s place in the EU’

Miss Sturgeon had hoped to hold a referendum during the next two years while Brexit negotiations take place - and had wanted Scotland to simply and seamlessly remain in the EU if there was a Yes vote.

But the new ruling by Brussels dashes her hopes, by confirming that an independent Scotland would have to reapply for EU membership.

Such a move could take years and come with conditions, such as having to adopt the euro (a deeply unpopular prospect amongst most Scots) and introduce border controls with England.

The official ruling confirmed that 'part' of a member state 'cannot remain in the EU if the member state itself withdraws'.

Asked at the end of last week if an independent Scotland would be able to retain membership of the EU despite the rest of the UK opting to leave, the EC told The Scottish Mail on Sunday that the rules make it clear that Brexit applies across the whole of the UK.

An EC source said: 'Article 50 is the only legal mechanism to withdraw from the union - and this article refers to "member states".'

The issue of a 'partial withdrawal' of a member state was also ruled out in a briefing note sent to MEPs by the European Parliamentary Research Service.

The document, seen by The Scottish Mail on Sunday, said: 'Also discussed (by commentators) is the question of whether a "partial withdrawal" could refer to part of the territory of a member state, and therefore the member state "as a whole" does not withdraw but part of it "remains" in the EU.

'It should be noted, however, that the "part of the member state" in question would not itself be a sovereign state, and that it would never have been a formal member of the EU as a sovereign state, so it could be argued that it cannot therefore "remain" in the EU if the member state itself withdraws.'

It is a devastating blow for Miss Sturgeon, who wanted to capitalise on the massive pro-Remain vote to help boost her primary cause of ending Scotland's place in the 309-year-old Union.

 

Blackleaf

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You really haven't read a lot of British history, have you?

Here's the highlights:

Ireland
India
Australia
North America
Pacific Islands
Middle East
Africa
China (see Opium Wars)
Napoleonic Wars
Crimean War
The Great Game
World War I
World War II
Korean War
Falklands War
Iraq War I
Iraq War II
Afghan War
Invasion of Suez

I know you hate the U.S., and that's fine. But to hold up the British as a model of pacifism and non-aggression is insane.


I know. The British should have stayed out of the Napoleonic Wars and WWII and let Old Boney and Hitler terrorise the continent. The Falklands was a big mistake, too. We were the aggressor in all three conflicts and it's time we recognised that.
 

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I know. The British should have stayed out of the Napoleonic Wars and WWII and let Old Boney and Hitler terrorise the continent. The Falklands was a big mistake, too. We were the aggressor in all three conflicts and it's time we recognised that.

That you completely failed to understand my post is unsurprising.
 

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I know. The British should have stayed out of the Napoleonic Wars and WWII and let Old Boney and Hitler terrorise the continent. The Falklands was a big mistake, too. We were the aggressor in all three conflicts and it's time we recognised that.

Truly, Blackleaf, on account of being a British citizen :) , what have you voted for: staying or leaving the EU?
 

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