American Ignorance About Canada

[I think not]

I'm still trying to figure out which Canada y'all are talking aboot.

 

[Curiosity]

ITN

Probably some outpost in Manitoba which seems to be the least liked place in the world.....

 

[I think not]

If you can get passed the mosquitoes and reverands it's not half bad. :wink:

 

[Kreskin]

Mosquitos in Manitoba are downright ugly.

 

[Toro]

That's Seattle. Keep going.

It doesn't snow in Seattle! Sheesh!

You have to go a couple thousand miles north to Vancouver before you'll find snow!

 

[Nuggler]

:idea: Do we really care about so called American ignorance about Canada. I think its great. I don't want them to know what a great place we have. They might buy it. 8O

We have our share of ignorance this side of the border also. What's the capitol of Wyoming?? Quick :!: ..........anyone :?: :?: Sure, ya can look it up....... :roll:

All that being said, I met an American at the Vancouver Acquarium who thought a sea otter was a beaver........"Ya dose is dem tings what like make like a dam wit der feet....ya no.......huh??(explaining to his kids"). But, he and his family were in Canada, spending bucks, takin in the culture eh: hard not to love em.

Ah, we are just so GD great.......yes we is.





:wink:

 

[Toro]

RE: American Ignorance Ab

Well said OldN

I've always thought American ignorance of Canada was a good thing.

 

[Melanie]

http://www.dansargis.org/column_files/2004_columns/sarg042204.htm

 

[Melanie]

RE: American Ignorance Ab

http://www.dansargis.org/column_files/2004_columns/sarg042204.htm

 

[Toro]

Haha, classic Melanie.

Here's Melanie's article

Puck the Seals: A Canadian Hat Trick

April 22, 2004

After harping ad infinitum about America’s “unjustified” war, our compassionate Canadian neighbors have launched a little pogrom of their own. Taking their lead from Fallujian etiquette, Canada has commenced the slaughter of a million baby harp seals over the next three years. At least they are sparing suicide bombers and serial rapists.

Of course there are always the nitpickers who will maintain that “baby” seals aren’t slaughtered. In an act of inspired benevolence, Canada did ban the killing of seal pups younger than 12 days. What are they doing...checking the seal’s dog tags for a date of birth?

In a preemptive strike based on faulty intelligence, Canada has decisively launched a war to save its depleted cod fishery, “Officially...the hunt is a response to the collapse of the Northwest Atlantic stocks of cod....” It seems that the Canadians, with the support of government manufactured studies, have decided that harp seals are eating the cod. Even for a Canadian, could it really take this long to figure out that seals were born to eat fish?

Although over-whelming scientific evidence blames the Canadian government for mismanaging the cod fishery and allowing massive overfishing, the official Government response has been unilateral. Canadian Natural Resources Minister John Efford, “...argued that the seal population was exploding...and commercial fish stocks were vanishing.”

Efford clearly outlined his strategic initiative, “I would like to see the 6 million seals, or whatever number is out there, killed and sold, or destroyed or burned. I do not care what happens to them…the more they kill the better I will love it." In his next breath, Efford reminded the world that, “"We must remember that our ocean and all of its resources need protection....” This guy should write speeches for John Kerry.

Ever since Canada was chosen to host the 2010 winter Olympics, the country has become a soapbox of internationalism. Our northern neighbor is running at warp speed to the left of every issue. In continuing efforts at continental respectability, Canadian officials are going-for-the-gold in the ever-so-genteel sport of America bashing. Francoise Ducros, top aide to former Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien, commenced the games by calling President Bush a “moron”. Then, MP Carolyn Parrish really scored for the home team with “Damn Americans … I hate those bastards.” Let’s go for the hat trick.

And speaking of hat tricks...how about a bit of Canadian “Head Hockey”. In his book, Over the Side, Michael Dwyer describes some light-hearted fun with fellow Canadian seal “hunters”, “It was like hockey but instead of using sticks, we used our hakipiks to try to shoot the (seal’s) head between two twitching carcasses we used as goal posts. We all took turns in the net. By the time the game was over, eyeballs, teeth, fragments of skull bone and lower jawbones were scattered all over the rink. Darrell won but we all had a great bit of fun.” Who says you can’t mix business with pleasure.

From the country that accused America of going to war for oil...” A study conducted last year for the Northwest Territories seal industry found that the market for ...Seal oil for health products (was) reckoned to have the greatest potential.” And don’t forget cheap Canadian pharmaceuticals...” Only one product was rated as having "excellent" economic prospects: seal penises, which are in great demand in China for use in aphrodisiacs.” Viagra...step aside!

Former Prime Minister Jean Chretien once described what level of proof Canadians wanted from the U.S. before assisting the U.S. in a war with Iraq, “A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.” Well, “At a meeting of the Society of Marine Mammalogists in Florida ...ninety-seven scientists from fifteen countries” concluded that, “All scientific efforts to find an effect of seal predation on Canadian groundfish stocks have failed to show any impact...Overfishing remains the only scientifically demonstrated problem.” Despite this “proof”, the Canadian administration is obsessed with slaughtering seals.

What about the Geneva Conventions? “The Canadian government claims the commercial seal hunt is humane and well regulated.” But, “In 2001, an international team of five independent veterinarians...found that 79% of the sealers did not check to see if an animal was dead before skinning it...And when the veterinarians examined the skulls of killed seals, 42% were found to have minimal or no fractures, suggesting a high probability that these seals were conscious when skinned.” When is a “proof” a “proof”?

The U.S. Marine Mammal Protection Act outlaws the importation or sale of any product made from any marine mammal, including seals, in the U.S. Even the European Union has similar legislation. But, for the lofty goal of profit, the Canadians just keep killing.

What’s even more laughable is the Canadian coalition of the willing. They are barbarically slaughtering innocent baby mammals to supply already over-populated and AIDS infected regions of the globe with aphrodisiacs!

Canadian Senator, Pierre Claude Nolin maintains that the U.S. war on drugs “threaten the basis of democracy...and the rule of law....” While Nolin demands that “The world deserves drug policies that... are respectful of human rights”, Canadians keep pucking around with baby seal heads. My God...that’s funnier than Jeffrey Dahmer complaining about the fat content of a Big Mac.

Canada is another case study in chest-pounding second rate wannabes. A country that condemns the U.S. for ginning up pre-war Iraq intelligence, simultaneously hypes its internal fishery data in complete disregard of the overwhelming independent research to the contrary. A country that finds it stylish to bash its best friend and neighbor also finds it easy to bash a seal pub’s head. All in order to make some money by pimping to people’s libidos.

I’m sure the world will sleep more safely with the slaughter of a million harp seals. Bin Laden would be safer in Ottawa than a seal pup!

 

[Kreskin]

Haha, classic Melanie.

Here's Melanie's article

Puck the Seals: A Canadian Hat Trick

April 22, 2004

After harping ad infinitum about America’s “unjustified” war, our compassionate Canadian neighbors have launched a little pogrom of their own. Taking their lead from Fallujian etiquette, Canada has commenced the slaughter of a million baby harp seals over the next three years. At least they are sparing suicide bombers and serial rapists.

Of course there are always the nitpickers who will maintain that “baby” seals aren’t slaughtered. In an act of inspired benevolence, Canada did ban the killing of seal pups younger than 12 days. What are they doing...checking the seal’s dog tags for a date of birth?

In a preemptive strike based on faulty intelligence, Canada has decisively launched a war to save its depleted cod fishery, “Officially...the hunt is a response to the collapse of the Northwest Atlantic stocks of cod....” It seems that the Canadians, with the support of government manufactured studies, have decided that harp seals are eating the cod. Even for a Canadian, could it really take this long to figure out that seals were born to eat fish?

Although over-whelming scientific evidence blames the Canadian government for mismanaging the cod fishery and allowing massive overfishing, the official Government response has been unilateral. Canadian Natural Resources Minister John Efford, “...argued that the seal population was exploding...and commercial fish stocks were vanishing.”

Efford clearly outlined his strategic initiative, “I would like to see the 6 million seals, or whatever number is out there, killed and sold, or destroyed or burned. I do not care what happens to them…the more they kill the better I will love it." In his next breath, Efford reminded the world that, “"We must remember that our ocean and all of its resources need protection....” This guy should write speeches for John Kerry.

Ever since Canada was chosen to host the 2010 winter Olympics, the country has become a soapbox of internationalism. Our northern neighbor is running at warp speed to the left of every issue. In continuing efforts at continental respectability, Canadian officials are going-for-the-gold in the ever-so-genteel sport of America bashing. Francoise Ducros, top aide to former Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien, commenced the games by calling President Bush a “moron”. Then, MP Carolyn Parrish really scored for the home team with “Damn Americans … I hate those bastards.” Let’s go for the hat trick.

And speaking of hat tricks...how about a bit of Canadian “Head Hockey”. In his book, Over the Side, Michael Dwyer describes some light-hearted fun with fellow Canadian seal “hunters”, “It was like hockey but instead of using sticks, we used our hakipiks to try to shoot the (seal’s) head between two twitching carcasses we used as goal posts. We all took turns in the net. By the time the game was over, eyeballs, teeth, fragments of skull bone and lower jawbones were scattered all over the rink. Darrell won but we all had a great bit of fun.” Who says you can’t mix business with pleasure.

From the country that accused America of going to war for oil...” A study conducted last year for the Northwest Territories seal industry found that the market for ...Seal oil for health products (was) reckoned to have the greatest potential.” And don’t forget cheap Canadian pharmaceuticals...” Only one product was rated as having "excellent" economic prospects: seal penises, which are in great demand in China for use in aphrodisiacs.” Viagra...step aside!

Former Prime Minister Jean Chretien once described what level of proof Canadians wanted from the U.S. before assisting the U.S. in a war with Iraq, “A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.” Well, “At a meeting of the Society of Marine Mammalogists in Florida ...ninety-seven scientists from fifteen countries” concluded that, “All scientific efforts to find an effect of seal predation on Canadian groundfish stocks have failed to show any impact...Overfishing remains the only scientifically demonstrated problem.” Despite this “proof”, the Canadian administration is obsessed with slaughtering seals.

What about the Geneva Conventions? “The Canadian government claims the commercial seal hunt is humane and well regulated.” But, “In 2001, an international team of five independent veterinarians...found that 79% of the sealers did not check to see if an animal was dead before skinning it...And when the veterinarians examined the skulls of killed seals, 42% were found to have minimal or no fractures, suggesting a high probability that these seals were conscious when skinned.” When is a “proof” a “proof”?

The U.S. Marine Mammal Protection Act outlaws the importation or sale of any product made from any marine mammal, including seals, in the U.S. Even the European Union has similar legislation. But, for the lofty goal of profit, the Canadians just keep killing.

What’s even more laughable is the Canadian coalition of the willing. They are barbarically slaughtering innocent baby mammals to supply already over-populated and AIDS infected regions of the globe with aphrodisiacs!

Canadian Senator, Pierre Claude Nolin maintains that the U.S. war on drugs “threaten the basis of democracy...and the rule of law....” While Nolin demands that “The world deserves drug policies that... are respectful of human rights”, Canadians keep pucking around with baby seal heads. My God...that’s funnier than Jeffrey Dahmer complaining about the fat content of a Big Mac.

Canada is another case study in chest-pounding second rate wannabes. A country that condemns the U.S. for ginning up pre-war Iraq intelligence, simultaneously hypes its internal fishery data in complete disregard of the overwhelming independent research to the contrary. A country that finds it stylish to bash its best friend and neighbor also finds it easy to bash a seal pub’s head. All in order to make some money by pimping to people’s libidos.

I’m sure the world will sleep more safely with the slaughter of a million harp seals. Bin Laden would be safer in Ottawa than a seal pup!

Sounds like a fiscally irresponsible babykilling righteous treehugger. Who gives a f--- what this dweeb thinks.

 

[Melanie]

RE: American Ignorance Ab

Sounds like a fiscally irresponsible babykilling righteous treehugger. Who gives a f--- what this dweeb thinks.


Baby killing? oh yeah chasing them down to sell their privates to china and their skin to Newfoundland.........


oh did it upset you that bad??? you forget 98% of that article was not thoughts, but.......“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.

 

[Melanie]

RE: American Ignorance Ab

Fiscally irresponsible...lol...we donate more money to foreign aid remember, oh yeah you just promise and then don't deliver Africa, aids drugs remember?

And last I checked Americans wern't killing mass numbers of seal for pelt and aphrodesiacs, for economic gain. Oh and the last time I checked Iraq is voting.....you do know what democracy is right?

Oh by the way did Canadian special forces fly really fast to Iraq, in half an hour to help save those hostages?

Na didn't think so, they are already there. While lying about it the whole time....Don't you watch CPAC?

 

[Said1]

Wow, I think you resonded to five different thread topics in one. Bravo.

 

[Nuggler]

:? OK, so much for seals; now about American ig....blablabla:

Does ANYONE know which province won the annual polar bear chase in Sask. :?: Last I heard, B.C. was in the lead, but then CBC dropped the coverage to do a Harper photo op.

Jees, we just get a good sport going, lots of interest, and CBC kisses off.........dang :!: 8O

8)

PS This years chase was more interesting as motorized vehicles were not allowed, nor weapons, so the chase had to be done across the Sask. ice fields on foot..............Come on CBC.........Come back :!: :!:

 

[Kreskin]

Re: RE: American Ignorance Ab

Fiscally irresponsible...lol...we donate more money to foreign aid remember, oh yeah you just promise and then don't deliver Africa, aids drugs remember?

And last I checked Americans wern't killing mass numbers of seal for pelt and aphrodesiacs, for economic gain. Oh and the last time I checked Iraq is voting.....you do know what democracy is right?

Oh by the way did Canadian special forces fly really fast to Iraq, in half an hour to help save those hostages?

Na didn't think so, they are already there. While lying about it the whole time....Don't you watch CPAC?

Keep blowin them arms off of Iraqi kids, for your fuhrer.

 

[jimmoyer]

That's right send less than 200 Canadian soldiers
to Dafur and be awash in comfortable self righteousness,
waiting for hypocritical America to take the lead.

And let's be clear, your understanding of suicide bombers
does the Iraqi country no good as it wishes to rebuild
and so this hypocrisy glad of the insurgents certainly
does not prioritize any hope for Iraq to emerge safely
and democratically.

Your sin of inaction and your sin of tolerance for those
who wish to keep destroying Iraq are no better than
the hubris of Pres.Bush.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I don't mind when we joke around. But often we can dish it out, but we can't take it.

I'm just as guilty. I become infuriated when I hear the US be-little our military. Truth is that ignorance reigns supreme both North and South.

Our perception of Redneck contestants poised to enter the Jerry Springer Forum is met by their perception of Wishy Washy Canadians who secretly wish they were American.

So much good North and South silenced by so much ignorance.

JIM MOYER MY SON LIKE 1000's of CANADIANS IN AFGHANISTAN ARE NOT AWASH IN SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS BUT THEY ARE OFTEN BATHED IN THE IGNORANCE OF THAT VERY STATEMENT.

 

[jimmoyer]

My reference was to Kreskin's statement, prior to my
post.

As far as Canada itself and its forward position in
Afghanistan, I honor and admire the hell out of it.

I grew up fishing on the Rideau Lakes and absolutely
love the land and the people.

I also come here to get out of the bubble of
American thought. We're all quite insulated, both
sides.

So let me apologize to you Retired_Can_Soldier.

 

[Kreskin]

Re: RE: American Ignorance About Canada

My reference was to Kreskin's statement, prior to my
post.

As far as Canada itself and its forward position in
Afghanistan, I honor and admire the hell out of it.

I grew up fishing on the Rideau Lakes and absolutely
love the land and the people.

I also come here to get out of the bubble of
American thought. We're all quite insulated, both
sides.

So let me apologize to you Retired_Can_Soldier.

Jim, I have spent a few years on the politicalcrossfire.com forum in an attempt to gain American perspective. That place is a circus.