Amber Alert for Calgary boy, 5, who was last seen with grandparents
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Nathan O'Brien case: Airdrie civilian search called off over backlash - Calgary - CBC News
What kind of A$$holes would do something like this? How could the search possibly be detrimental? Whose "thunder" is being stolen?
A$$HOLES!
What kind of A$$holes would do something like this? How could the search possibly be detrimental? Whose "thunder" is being stolen?
A$$HOLES!
I don't know Petros, a guy can have a motive, he can have an opportunity, he can even have the weapons in possession, but all that still isn't proof he committed the crime and if no one saw him or heard him discuss it, how can you say he did it beyond reasonable doubt? That was one of the advantages of the Old West- you hanged him and discussed it later. -
it sounds as if some people felt like others were going to mess up the police investigation. I don't understand that as it sounds like they are looking for the bodies to help not hinder.
maybe there is more they aren't saying but ...most peculiar
this whole thing has been peculiar from the get go
Maybe not all that peculiar, Sal. I think in the early going the cops wanted full control fearing evidence might be tainted or tampered with, but I think eventually they realized there just aren't the resources or the money to fund a search covering the potential area involved, so they did the only thing left, appeal to the public.
agreed, yes, before they said they couldn't allow the public onto the farm because they were searching for evidence...unspoken here of course is, they already believed that two of them were dead...they did not reveal that point
I still find it peculiar that a group of citizens feel that other's looking have an agenda
This seems quite the odd turn of events.
Calgary detectives in Mexico as part of investigation into disappearance of Nathan O'Brien, grandparents | CTV News
On to something or getting desperate?
Calgary detectives in Mexico as part of investigation into disappearance of Nathan O'Brien, grandparents | CTV News
On to something or getting desperate?
Not altogether surprising. As far as I know it was never disclosed that the blood at the scene belonged to any of the three "victims". The suspect is a bit of a weird f**ker, but I don't think such a violent crimes fits his M.O. for 50 years. Also pretty tough to get rid of three bodies at the same time undetected. The cops know more than they are letting on. Stay tuned!
Nathan O'Brien Case: Police search for evidence on Douglas Garland's property
Police are back out at the Douglas Garland property getting evidence for the court case in May.
Nathan O'Brien Case: Police search for evidence on Douglas Garland's property - Calgary - CBC News
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I was just thinking what if this turned out to be a custody battle and the Grand Parents moved to Panama with the kid, or something like that??
Police are back out at the Douglas Garland property getting evidence for the court case in May.
Nathan O'Brien Case: Police search for evidence on Douglas Garland's property - Calgary - CBC News
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I was just thinking what if this turned out to be a custody battle and the Grand Parents moved to Panama with the kid, or something like that??
Nathan O'Brien Case: Police search for evidence on Douglas Garland's property
Police are back out at the Douglas Garland property getting evidence for the court case in May.
Nathan O'Brien Case: Police search for evidence on Douglas Garland's property - Calgary - CBC News
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I was just thinking what if this turned out to be a custody battle and the Grand Parents moved to Panama with the kid, or something like that??
no you weren't thinking, you were emoting because in your heart you know they are all dead and it's just too horrible to allow that thought
nah, no maybe possible because the amount of blood found on scene led us to know: someone bled out which would just leave one adult and the kid...it ain't possible or even probable that the two of them moved on and have never been seen since...they are dead, it is a tragedy, but it is reality. Better to accept that and focus on the how and why.
The man accused of killing a Calgary couple and their five-year-old grandson was motivated by a "petty grudge" over a patent dispute and burned their bodies in a barrel after killing them, court heard Monday as the triple-murder trial of Douglas Garland began.
In her opening statement, Crown prosecutor Vicki Faulkner said Douglas Garland was angry with Alvin Liknes over a dispute relating to a patent for a pump that dated back years.
She told the jury that when Garland learned through internet searches that Alvin and his wife, Kathy Liknes, were planning to leave Calgary, Garland finally decided to act on his grudge.
Five-year-old Nathan O'Brien was at his grandparents' home, having an impromptu sleepover, when the trio were taken.
Forensic analysis of Garland's computer hard drive will be presented as evidence, said Faulkner, showing research on murder, "how to kill without emotion," torture and autopsies.
The Crown said DNA evidence from the missing family members was found on a saw and meat hooks, and bones and a tiny tooth were discovered in a large burn barrel.
A mapping plane that flew over the property also took photographs that show three bodies in the grass, according to the Crown's opening statement.
Alvin and Kathy were lying face down, according to the prosecution.
"You will also see a small figure curled up on the grass," said Faulkner. "The Crown says this is Nathan."
Alvin Liknes' son, Allen Liknes, was the prosecution's second witness. He was married to Douglas Garland's sister Patti at the time the family disappeared.
Both Allen and Patti were instrumental in alerting police to information that caused Garland to become a suspect the day the trio was discovered missing, according to the Crown's opening statement.
Allen testified that he, Alvin and Garland had worked together around 2006-2007, when his father hired Garland to do some wiring for a pump the father and son were developing.
The relationship between Alvin and Garland disintegrated beginning in 2007 when Garland became upset that he had been let go from the business after he stopped answering the phone, Liknes testified. By 2010, Allen testified that he and his father stopped talking to Garland because Alvin had had enough.
Allen told officers about the long-standing grudge Garland held against Alvin on June 30, 2014.
The same day, Patti Garland recognized a photo of a green truck released by police as similar to the one driven almost exclusively by her brother, Douglas Garland. The image had been captured by a surveillance camera on the Liknes's street the night the family disappeared.
She sent a photo to Allen who forwarded it on to police, according to the Crown's opening statement.
In cross examination, Allen Liknes told defence lawyer Kim Ross that Garland never threatened his father.
"He's not confrontational at all," said Allen Liknes. "If anything he's sneaky."
Douglas Garland killed Calgary couple and grandson over 'petty grudge,' court hears - Calgary - CBC News
In her opening statement, Crown prosecutor Vicki Faulkner said Douglas Garland was angry with Alvin Liknes over a dispute relating to a patent for a pump that dated back years.
She told the jury that when Garland learned through internet searches that Alvin and his wife, Kathy Liknes, were planning to leave Calgary, Garland finally decided to act on his grudge.
Five-year-old Nathan O'Brien was at his grandparents' home, having an impromptu sleepover, when the trio were taken.
Forensic analysis of Garland's computer hard drive will be presented as evidence, said Faulkner, showing research on murder, "how to kill without emotion," torture and autopsies.
The Crown said DNA evidence from the missing family members was found on a saw and meat hooks, and bones and a tiny tooth were discovered in a large burn barrel.
A mapping plane that flew over the property also took photographs that show three bodies in the grass, according to the Crown's opening statement.
Alvin and Kathy were lying face down, according to the prosecution.
"You will also see a small figure curled up on the grass," said Faulkner. "The Crown says this is Nathan."
Alvin Liknes' son, Allen Liknes, was the prosecution's second witness. He was married to Douglas Garland's sister Patti at the time the family disappeared.
Both Allen and Patti were instrumental in alerting police to information that caused Garland to become a suspect the day the trio was discovered missing, according to the Crown's opening statement.
Allen testified that he, Alvin and Garland had worked together around 2006-2007, when his father hired Garland to do some wiring for a pump the father and son were developing.
The relationship between Alvin and Garland disintegrated beginning in 2007 when Garland became upset that he had been let go from the business after he stopped answering the phone, Liknes testified. By 2010, Allen testified that he and his father stopped talking to Garland because Alvin had had enough.
Allen told officers about the long-standing grudge Garland held against Alvin on June 30, 2014.
The same day, Patti Garland recognized a photo of a green truck released by police as similar to the one driven almost exclusively by her brother, Douglas Garland. The image had been captured by a surveillance camera on the Liknes's street the night the family disappeared.
She sent a photo to Allen who forwarded it on to police, according to the Crown's opening statement.
In cross examination, Allen Liknes told defence lawyer Kim Ross that Garland never threatened his father.
"He's not confrontational at all," said Allen Liknes. "If anything he's sneaky."
Douglas Garland killed Calgary couple and grandson over 'petty grudge,' court hears - Calgary - CBC News
I got to thinking the death penalty should be reinstated, but on second thought that would be far too easy for the S.O.B. Sentence him to a life of hard labour interspersed with weekly beatings with a whip, so he's in a perpetual state of extreme suffering. Of course this should start the minute after he's proven guilty.
