All schools must allow ‘gay-straight alliances’ under new anti-bullying bill

JLM

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I get a YUK reaction to two guys kissing too. As long as one of them isn't me or it isn't in my house, what does it matter? Minding one's own business is tough enough. Controlling someone who doesn't want to be controlled is well nigh unto impossible.

Yep, to me it's sickening and I don't want to see it and I don't want it shoved in my face, but beyond that why sweat the issue?
 

AxeGrrl

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Homosexuals for a long period of time have lived in self protecting ghettos

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Gee, I wonder why. Hmm, let's think. Why would a group of people who have been discriminated against, maligned, cursed, killed etc etc because of their orientation want to keep their identity 'quiet'?

any ideas there coldstream?

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A demand to take part in society is not a demand for special attention. If anything it is a demand for less special (special in the unwanted sense) attention.

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Beautifully said, Niflmir :)

It boggles my mind when some people continue to peddle this ridiculous "gays want 'special treatment'" nonsense. When did mere equal treatment become 'special'?


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'homosexual marriage' has...... reduced the purpose of marriage to one of prurient gratification.

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Please tell me you're like 100 yrs old and live in a cave. Then your ignorance might at least be 'explainable'.

Gay people get married for precisely the same reason that straight people do ~ because they want to establish a legal union with the person they love.

Love is love. And your attempt to malign the love between same-sex couples by reducing it to "prurient gratification" reveals not only extreme ignorance but a fundamental (and depressing) lack of generosity.

my condolences.

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all homosexual relationships are grounded in dominance, submission and exploitation of a most primitive and infantile character

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Please, seek help.

You're toxically ignorant/misinformed.

But you can fix that......if you want to.

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JLM

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I have no problem what gays and lesbians do among themselves or the rights they demand, up to the point of where they start shoving it in other people's faces!
 

AxeGrrl

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Yep, to me it's sickening and I don't want to see it

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Most people feel the same way about old people or 'ugly' people 'getting it on' too. So what?

What on earth does 'personal disgust' have to do with how a certain group of people should be treated under the law? and why do some people (not directing this at you personally, JLM) feel this need to express this personal disgust as though anyone else should care?

*mind boggled*

(and again, i don't mean to direct this to you JLM, i just quoted that phrase from your post to speak about the 'issue' in general. apologies if this came across as being a 'rebuttal' to you or somethng)

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up to the point of where they start shoving it in other people's faces!

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For the purpose of clarity, could you specifically describe what you mean by "shoving it others' faces"?

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MapleDog

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I don't see why we should have to see anybody kissing, it's not a spectator sport.

Yes gay or straight if you want to eat each other's face off,do it at home not on the bus cause the distraction you do,won't be good when the bus has to make an emergency stop cause some twit ran a red light,and you'll end up with your heads wrapped around a pole "and not the dancing kind" ;)
 

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I don't see why we should have to see anybody kissing, it's not a spectator sport.

Well, voyeurs and exhibitionists aside. I've seen people having sex in public a few times. Weird, but didn't really bother me. I just kept walking.
 

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Wait for the blow back - lack of cooperation form the Catholic School Boards-

Separate education should be turfed.

Church and school serve 2 different purposes - Why am I paying for a religious based education.

Because the current government refuses to reopen the Constitution, among other reasons.

I will say though that I'm still in two minds about applying this law to private schools, religious or otherwise, including private Catholic schools.

As for Separate schools though, of course the same rules ought to apply to them in this case as to public secular schools.
 

Machjo

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If the school is private or private and religious,the parents are paying to send their kids there,so why do they recieve money from the gov?

That's my point. If they're not getting any tax money, then I'm less inclined to support this bill applying to them.
 

WLDB

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That's my point. If they're not getting any tax money, then I'm less inclined to support this bill applying to them.

Tax funding or not all schools should be required to reach certain standards and follow the same laws as others.
 

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Gay parades! Do you see us flaunting ourselves at hetero sexual parades.

So you make a point out of watching gay parades, so that you can be offended by what you see?

I've never seen a gay parade, because it's not something that interests me.
 

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That's my point. If they're not getting any tax money, then I'm less inclined to support this bill applying to them.

With that reasoning they could teach whatever they wished incuding hatred for a specific group- religion- sexual orientation-
The bill is to stop hatred of a specific group- no way around it- you either support it or support the possiblity /probability that a school can teach hatred.
 

Machjo

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With that reasoning they could teach whatever they wished incuding hatred for a specific group- religion- sexual orientation-
The bill is to stop hatred of a specific group- no way around it- you either support it or support the possiblity /probability that a school can teach hatred.

That's why i said I'm less inclined to, and not that I absolutely could not accept it.

Just as there are things that ought to apply to all schools, there are others that ought to apply only to schools supported by tax dollars.

As for the gay-straight alliances, definitely that kind of law ought to apply to all tax-funded schools, but I'm still undecided as to whether that particular law ought to apply to all schools.

From my understanding though, it will apply to all schools.

Tax funding or not all schools should be required to reach certain standards and follow the same laws as others.

For the most part you're right, though there may be some exceptions.
 

Goober

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That's why i said I'm less inclined to, and not that I absolutely could not accept it.

Just as there are things that ought to apply to all schools, there are others that ought to apply only to schools supported by tax dollars.

As for the gay-straight alliances, definitely that kind of law ought to apply to all tax-funded schools, but I'm still undecided as to whether that particular law ought to apply to all schools.

From my understanding though, it will apply to all schools.

It should apply to all schools- it is not like they are sovereign states- The law has to be clear, include and apply to all schools. Just because they are not supported by tax dollars carries no weight- If they do not wish to adhere to the law they can always leave.

Myself I see some Catholics - protestants- Evagelicals and Muslims having a fit over this. Good- Follow the law or the Govt revives their license. Oh yes and a rather large fine to boot.
 

lone wolf

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I think a little more respect for the human condition at the Parliamentary level might set some sort of example for playground conduct. Seems to me kids are getting mixed messages.

Do as I say, not as I do doesn't work....
 
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